Rocko1

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3/11/2019
Topic:
Yaqui Peak/Wilson Benchmark?

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dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Saw there was a guzzler near Yaqui peak also.

Yeah, that is one of the guzzler locations, I have not been to that one yet, post any photos if you get up there.

Going out this weekend for a couple of nights. I will try to get to this spot as well.
3/11/2019
Topic:
Desert Flowers

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Did Diablo Peak via June Wash this weekend. So many flowers up this wash. I have never seen more butterflies in my life-like swarms of them.





3/12/2019
Topic:
Hellohole Canyon - Culp Valley Loop

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Rocko1
Nice report. Great pictures. What was the trouble finding the Pena Spring? Is it mis-marked on the map?

Also, what do you use for navigation?
3/18/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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Rocko1
Very nice! There were so many cat tracks in that area when I went-many in the Nolina wash just east of the saddle separating Bighorn Canyon. It's disheartening that someone would take the skull but doesn't surprise me. What model trail cam is that?

Are you saying the animals are travelling up Bighorn and back out the same way?
edited by Rocko1 on 3/18/2019
3/18/2019
Topic:
Desert Flowers

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Went out this weekend for some car camping with my brother. Decided to try out Lizard Wash. Nice little canyon although crowded as is all of AB with bloomageddon in full swing.
Looking south towards Chuckwalla Wash.


Barrel cactus are looking to be in peak condition.


3/18/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice! There were so many cat tracks in that area when I went-many in the Nolina wash just east of the saddle separating Bighorn Canyon. It's disheartening that someone would take the skull but doesn't surprise me. What model trail cam is that?

Are you saying the animals are travelling up Bighorn and back out the same way?
edited by Rocko1 on 3/18/2019


Hey Rocko1, the trailcam is a Bushnell 20MP Trophy Cam HD Low Glow (about $140 on Amazon). It has a faint red LED at night that animals notice which gets their attention and they often look at the camera. It doesn't scare them.


Yes, the animals all appear to enter and exit from the right which is downstream in Bighorn Canyon. I was sad to find the skull gone.




Thanks-I have been looking for a decent cam. Great trip report. I imagine as the temps heat towards summer the traffic will continue to increase there. I noticed the park had a trail cam mounted to the tank-I think it was cabled or locked up somehow.
3/19/2019
Topic:
Desert Flowers

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Buford wrote:
Nice flowers.

Too bad flower season has become such a train wreck around town.


No kidding. I hiked down the wash to 78 while my brother napped and I couldn't believe the cars on that road. Bumper to bumper going both directions on Saturday.
3/19/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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tekewin wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Great trail cam clips, Tekewin. You can see a little brown line just to the right of your route starting point. That's where I found a cache of several sheep remains a while back. Your kitty is getting around. Need to start parking my old trail cam out in the boonies again!



Cool! I suspect desert lions have a big territory. Trailcams are fun and addicting, but often disappointing, too.

There is a great web mini-series on Lions produced by UC Davis here. They have released 4 out of 7 episodes so far on Youtube.


Nice. I agree with the cams being disappointing at times. Every time I car camp in AB with my brother he brings his older game cam. We have gotten nothing except moths. I keep telling him it's broken.. I think it's his snoring keeping any and all animals away from the cam.
3/20/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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rockhopper wrote:
Thanks for the trail camp placement. Great work. I've seen a lot of nice Cat tracks in the wet sand gulley bottoms. Glad I am zipped up in my tent at night!



When the wife and I backpacked near here a few months ago she woke me up at 2am saying there was something sniffing the tent. I said it's probably a mouse and fell back asleep. I showed her this video and she said 'See! It was a Mountain Lion!' smile
edited by Rocko1 on 3/20/2019
3/20/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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Rocko1
tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:

When the wife and I backpacked near here a few months ago she woke me up at 2am saying there was something sniffing the tent. I said it's probably a mouse and fell back asleep. I showed her this video and she said 'See! It was a Mountain Lion!' smile
edited by Rocko1 on 3/20/2019


It could absolutely have been that lion trying to figure out if you were food! The timing of her patrol would line up pretty well with your trip, plus all the big prints you found on the way out. Exciting times.



What would you guesstimate the size/weight of that cat you captured?
3/26/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:

What would you guesstimate the size/weight of that cat you captured?



Well, my wild guesstimate would be 130 pounds +- 10 and a little over 6 feet long with tail. I would also guess female based on the lack of scarring on her face, but the only way to know for sure is to look under the tail. Males have a black spot there in addition to other goods.



Thanks. Do you mind telling me what settings you use on your trail cam?
3/26/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Thanks. Do you mind telling me what settings you use on your trail cam?

I know with my trail cam I struggle to decide on using burst mode photos or video, I am gonna have to buy a second camera just to be able to use both. What settings exactly are you thinking of? There usually aren't a whole lot of choices other than burst amount and timing/number of photos.

Some of the cams I see let you choose the time in between pictures taken when motion is activated. Also, picture and video combo, 1, 2, 3 picture bursts, etc. I didn't know which settings would yield best chances.
edited by Rocko1 on 3/26/2019
3/26/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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Rocko1
tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:

Thanks. Do you mind telling me what settings you use on your trail cam?


No problem. I experimented with photos only, then photo/video hybrid, but now I always set it to record video at 720p, up to 30 seconds at a time. Less chance of missing something and each clip will stop before that if motion stops. Unless something is moving fast, I can usually extract nice stills from the video. Many animals are nocturnal or Description but the camera takes pretty nice color video during the day.

edited by tekewin on 3/26/2019



Very nice! That is a well fed bear. How long was that camera in place?

Makes sense on the video settings. Thanks for the info.
3/26/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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Rocko1
tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:

Very nice! That is a well fed bear. How long was that camera in place?

Makes sense on the video settings. Thanks for the info.


I usually leave cameras out 6-12 weeks. I think that time was about 8 weeks.

Got it. Do you have to choose a place that is pretty far away from trails so that it won't get stolen? Also, do you use a small tripod or just put it on a rock and brace it with other rocks?
3/26/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

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Rocko1
tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:

Got it. Do you have to choose a place that is pretty far away from trails so that it won't get stolen? Also, do you use a small tripod or just put it on a rock and brace it with other rocks?


Cameras are safer off trail, but the trick is to find an area where you expect animal traffic. I've had my cameras spotted often, but left alone (so far). I know other people who've had their cameras stolen. Watering holes are good because everything needs water.

I don't use a tripod, it comes with a strap and I just strap it to a rock/tree, sometimes supported with other rocks. When I first started, I mounted it too high and missed most of the action that happens close to the ground. I try to keep it no higher than 3' and often lower, depending on the area. Professional photographers build custom DSLR rigs with expensive gear. I am just a hobbyist.



Good info, thanks.

rockhopper wrote:
Thanks for your efforts. Nice to see the wild life out and about while I am sleeping in my tent. This year should be beneficial to all wildlife due to the much needed precipitation.



I agree. I was out in Cuyamaca Sunday and was blown away at the amount of run off water flowing in the area. I usually get excited to see a trickle but the Sweetwater River was uncrossable and the streams feeding it near Arroyo Seco campground were numerous and flowing very nice.

edited by Rocko1 on 3/26/2019
4/9/2019
Topic:
Lake Cahuilla roundabout

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Rocko1
Very nice! Question-how does one tell the difference between old native trails, game trails, or just modern use trails?
4/9/2019
Topic:
Desert snow

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Donovanman wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Buford wrote:
tekewin wrote:
The snow covered desert doesn't look natural. Super photos, though. Looks like some zoom on those sheep, I'm surprised you spotted them if they were far away.


My usual method for zoomed in sheep pics: hold cell phone camera in one hand, 10x binoculars in the other hand. Line up the camera lens with the binocular eyepiece, and instant zoom lens. Binos don’t have to be in perfect focus, camera can focus. It can work surprisingly well for snapshots like this.

I heard the sheep before I saw them. Lots of rockfall. I knew they were recently in the area because of all the fresh tracks. There were at least 8 rams and 4 ewes.



You are better at this than I am! After trying this a few times and missing the shot due to animals moving I bought a used Canon SX260. 25X optical zoom. Not nice enough to worry about damaging it on hikes, but good enough to take pics vids further away.

Here is Stagecoach Trails Campground/Store from near the top of Granite Mt. 25x zoom.


Here is a non-zoom picture near where I took this for reference. https://i.imgur.com/nZ0XTyM.jpg
edited by Rocko1 on 3/1/2019



Do U use some particular binos? I'm currently considering on one to use it with my camera too) Found few options here https://opticzoo.com/best-binoculars-for-long-distance-reviews/ but still don't know which one to choose. Any thoughts on Celestron 71017 SkyMaster 25x10?



I don't bring binocs for most longer hikes. This was taken with Canon SX260 camera. 20X zoom.
4/15/2019
Topic:
the mother of all ajo lillies

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Rocko1
Nice! With all the rain the desert had everything is as healthy as I have ever seen it.
4/22/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

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Rocko1
Awesome trip report. How far down the CST did you make it? See anyone else out there?
4/23/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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Rocko1
I decided to tackle Villager Peak a couple of Sundays ago. It had been intriguing me ever since I read about it in Schad’s Afoot and Afield years ago. I figured I better do it before it gets too hot. I told my wife how hard this would be and how miserable she would feel yet somehow she was still game. Left my house at 4am and was on the trail by 6:20am a bit of a late start for me. Was about 55F. Well, they were not lying about the rocky trail-first mile is sandy wash, then the climbing starts. Loose broken rock over most of the trail with a very occasional short flat section. After a few expletives from the wife made it to the top by 11:30am.


There is a wind break and rock fireplace up top-plenty of room for multiple tents, Pinyons Pines and shade. It’s quite nice. More pleasant that Whale Peak in my opinion. At the top it was 70F with a slight breeze. Views are really incredible. I would have liked to spend more time up there but I wasn’t sure how long it would take to get back. Drank some coffee, ate some bars and decided to head back. Made it back the car at 4:30pm or so. Saw a small group of people on the way up 1.5 miles in-breaking camp and at the top we saw a couple who were just coming back from Rabbit Peak-they had spent the night. Didn’t see anyone else. Was 92F at the car. I had some left in the tank but my wife was at her limit. That’s the hardest hike she has done-San Jacinto was the toughest. Glad we did it. I will want to tackle Rabbit someday with a multi-day trip. Not looking forward to the water carry on that. Took 9L between us both-used all of it.
Looking back towards the car.

Harvestmen are strange creatures. These were all over on the lower elevations.

Still decent amount of flowers up the trail.

Small wind break

Another

View of the dry lake bed

At the peak. Wind break and fireplace.

Trip Specs. 14.32 miles, 5,017ft gain.

Couple of videos of the hike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFetNbtsJPk&feature=youtu.be

One of the rare flat sections. This was heaven on the feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyty7iYrmU&feature=youtu.be

edited by Rocko1 on 4/24/2019
4/23/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

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rockhopper wrote:
Rocko1
This was my Brothers 1st time down the Cactus Spring Trail so we made it as far as the pass going down to the Agua Alta spring, the start of the Martinez mountain climb. I think this is like the 6th time I have been out here. I went up the CST up Martinez canyon to Jack Millers rock house from Hwy 86 and down the CST from Hwy 74 to the Jack Miller rock house. This trip was more about exploring areas I passed thru before. We saw a few day hikers day one. Nobody on day two, but we could faintly hear the Coachella concert ( only the bass) ha!
edited by rockhopper on 4/22/2019



Nice! Can you leave a car at the trail head multiple days?
4/23/2019
Topic:
Hot, Cool, and High Benchmarks

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Rocko1
Nice report. Love seeing the older summit logs.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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Rocko1
Buford wrote:
Nice. Definitely a lot of elevation gain and loss with some good views.

Those rock wind breaks sure are multiplying rapidly over the last couple years.


The trail doesn't hold up to Schad's original description that said only a few people bag this peak a year. Hiking apps, the internet, his books I am sure have all led to it's increased popularity. The breaks are not LNT for sure but I can't say that in high winds if I was up there I wouldn't try to use them to shield my tent.
4/24/2019
Topic:
Villager Peak

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Scooter wrote:
A good way to do Rabbit is spend the night on Villager and leave early in the morning for Rabbit. After you get back from Rabbit hike out to your car. The views from Villager are much better than Rabbit since it has A lot of trees and brush. We also like it leave water bottles on the trail on the way up to Villager so you don't have to carry all the water up.



I will probably attempt this at some point. I wanted to cache water on the way up but that kind of got forgotten as I was in the 'zone' grinding up hill. I consumed 5.5 liters but could have drank another liter. That's a 26lb water carry for an overnight without caching.
4/25/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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Rocko1
Does anyone have any suggestions for any longer day hikes? I really enjoyed Granite, Villager as well as Whale Peak and the Goat Trestle.
4/25/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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Rocko1
Buford wrote:
caltopo.com Find an interesting starting point, destination, and end point and go.


Schad’s book

https://peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=5058

6582

All depend on time of year and how much you want to suffer.


Ha! Thanks Buford. 6582 is piquing my interest. I always forget about the peakbagger site.

Thanks.
4/26/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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Rocko1
These are all great ideas. Thanks everybody.
4/29/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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Rocko1
Buford wrote:
All of the suggestions are very good. Many are much tougher then Granite, Villager, or Whale.

Bring a headlamp for some. Be careful of the reports, the type of people who dayhike these are often faster than normal.


Also add:
Palm Mesa (via Henderson Canyon, BPC, or Los Coyotes)
Rosa and Pyramid(separately or can be combined with Mile High, Villager)

Sawtooth and Red Top can be done in <12 hours from Indian Canyon Big Grin



Thanks. I won't take any of these hikes lightly.
4/30/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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rockhopper wrote:
Don't forget Coyote peak next to Clark lake. Can be made into a fun day hike. Come up the east side and loop around to the north and back. Sections of the PCT near Granite mountain are fun. Also if you don't mind waiting till the snow melt and heading north a little bit, San Jacinto, San Gorgonio are some of my favorite day hikes.



Thanks. I want to do Coyote-that seems like an interesting route.

Have you done Gorgonio? I am planning that for the next couple of months.
4/30/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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rockhopper wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Don't forget Coyote peak next to Clark lake. Can be made into a fun day hike. Come up the east side and loop around to the north and back. Sections of the PCT near Granite mountain are fun. Also if you don't mind waiting till the snow melt and heading north a little bit, San Jacinto, San Gorgonio are some of my favorite day hikes.



Thanks. I want to do Coyote-that seems like an interesting route.

Have you done Gorgonio? I am planning that for the next couple of months.



Yes, multiple times. From the South and the North hiking trail heads. Always wanted to do the West route up 10,000 ft ridge and on to the summit. Camped at the summit once. Lots of rock wind shelters. I would suggest the North side first. Just more interesting than the South side uphill grind. It is the highest summit around. Great views on a clear day. Best after a East wind event. Have fun!



Thanks. I am thinking from Vivian Creek. I'd like to do a day hike but the wife doesn't do good at altitude-thinking of staying one night halfway, summit ting and going back next day.
5/3/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

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DHeuschele wrote:
For San G, I prefer the Fish Creek Route over the Vivian route and not only because the knees have gotten old with lots of miles. Fish creek may be more miles and take a bit longer but I find it to be easier and I like the route better. Not sure if the road to fish creek is open yet.

Water secret spot: the mine on a good snow year like this one is likely to have water (snow) into July or August. It is maybe 100 yards off trail.



Thanks! Road to Fish Creek is closed due to logging-guess we could have walked from the highway.

We ended up getting permits for end of May-Vivian Creek trail head with one overnight at Halfway camp. Not ideal but High Creek was full. Now the dilemma-Get to camp early and summit first day or the morning of the second day.
6/17/2019
Topic:
Anyone still here?

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Rocko1
Great pics Buford!

I have been doing non-AB hikes lately. Just did San Gorgonio Peak this weekend.


9/13/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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Rocko1
I am thinking about the best route of going from Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake. Would be 3 day trip, in winter/cooler weather, with water caches. I put this route together. Any thoughts or improvements would be appreciated. Rough draft-https://caltopo.com/m/VBL1
edited by Rocko1 on 9/13/2019
9/16/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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tommy750 wrote:
Roughly following San Felipe Creek/Old Kane Springs Rd to Fish Creek to Sandstone Canyon to Storm or Cottonwood or Oriflame Canyon would shave off 6-10 miles. Looks like a nice trek whatever route you chose.



I will look at modifying the route. Thanks for the tip.

The reason I chose a more northern route is 1) I am more familiar with that area and 2) it seemed to have easier points to do water caches and or bail out points.
9/16/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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dsefcik wrote:
If I had the extra time I would join you....looks like a great route.

That would be great.

I modified the track a bit adding cache locations/camp spots. Here is how it breaks down now.

Day 1) 28 miles 1,000ft of gain
Day 2) 14 miles 2,450ft of gain
Day 3) 22 miles 4,000ft of gain

Needs further work to lessen day 1, extend day 2.
9/16/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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dsefcik wrote:
I might offer a suggestion of cutting south at earthquake valley and thru blair/box cyn and going up oriflamme instead.



I think this makes sense. Seems to cut 2.5 miles and 800ft gain off. Thanks.
edited by Rocko1 on 9/16/2019
9/18/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
I would also suggest staying out of Oriflamme if it is a holiday weekend or such as there will be 5 million jeeps on that dirt road.



Thanks. I did consider that. Hitting the PCT near Scissors Crossing would eliminate that issue but add a couple of miles.
9/20/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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rockhopper wrote:
Sounds like a interesting adventure trek. Personally I would follow the San Felipe creek, cut across Split mountain gap and onward to Auga Caliente route to avoid the traffic along the 78. Packing water would be the main issue. Good luck. Keep us posted.



Doing water caches on that route would be difficult-that's why I chose to finish the days near a road. Thinking I might have my brother meet me at the cache/camp locations too.

Even in cooler weather I will probably need to carry 6L.
10/9/2019
Topic:
Grapevine Mountain and Bitter Creek

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Rocko1
Very nice. Did you ascent route follow the PCT part of the way?
10/14/2019
Topic:
Little Blair Valley Overnight

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Rocko1
Did a quick overnight north of Little Blair Valley with my son. This was just a last minute trip to try out some new gear and enjoy the cooler nighttime temps. Parked at the Pictograph trail and went searching for a decent camp site. A mile or so north of the pictograph trail end there are some decent spots and lots of boulders to explore. Found some really large 'caves' and one could spend many hours bouldering and exploring this area. In the morning we came down a canyon and made the short trip back to the car. Weather was great. 80F daytime, 37F low. No wind at night and a full moon. Camo tent is a Zpacks Duplex. 21oz.





One of the many 'caves' we found.


Another much larger-this was much larger than it appears. Could fit 10+ people standing up in here.


Morteros near the camp site.







Old Folders can found in cave


Canyon we made or way down in the morning.


Was a fun quick trip.
edited by Rocko1 on 10/14/2019
edited by Rocko1 on 10/15/2019
10/15/2019
Topic:
Little Blair Valley Overnight

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Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
I took my son to that same cave and area when he was about 17, lots of cool shelters around there.
So is that Dyneema camo? I bought several yards of that thin stuff and haven't made anything yet with it, kinda a tricky fabric to work with.



It really is. We were not there long but you really could spend a couple days exploring.

Yes, it's a .67oz/cubic yard dyneema composite. It's a bit thicker than their standard dyneema as the camo is laminated on. It makes it less see through than the lighter .51/oz material. The moon still shines through pretty well though.

This was taken about 8pm-moon light.


Here is inside shot.

edited by Rocko1 on 10/15/2019
10/15/2019
Topic:
Little Blair Valley Overnight

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Rocko1
deborah wrote:
Sounds like a fun trip! I bet the moon was amazing.



It was very bright. Not good for star viewing but it was really great to see it come over a ridge near Whale Peak.
10/16/2019
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

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Rocko1
Great pics. What type of vehicle do you have? I want to do a trip up Rockhouse Canyon and would like to get as close as possible in my Ford Escape.
10/18/2019
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

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Rocko1
deborah wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Great pics. What type of vehicle do you have? I want to do a trip up Rockhouse Canyon and would like to get as close as possible in my Ford Escape.



I have a Tacoma. The short distance that I went in a few weeks ago was bumpy for sure, but probably not surprising since I didn't bother to air down. smile I thought it was very manageable until I got to my stopping point. There were some medium-size boulders in the path I was following. I didn't spend much time looking for a way around.



Thanks. I hope one day to get a Tacoma. Really like those trucks.
10/21/2019
Topic:
Little Blair Valley Overnight

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Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:


Yes, it's a .67oz/cubic yard dyneema composite. It's a bit thicker than their standard dyneema as the camo is laminated on. It makes it less see through than the lighter .51/oz material. The moon still shines through pretty well though.



I am gonna have to get back to some sewing projects, Dyneema is cool but expensive. I did make some food storage bags for our Grand Canyon trip back in Nov. The material is supposed to be rodent resistant.



Very nice! Love the vintage sewing machine.

It is expensive but bags like that are very nice. I would throw the food inside a Opsak first too just to be safe. I have had good luck with those shielding the odors. I have heard the rodents at established sites in GC are really persistent.
edited by Rocko1 on 10/21/2019
10/31/2019
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

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Rocko1
Very nice! I looked at this peak when I hiked Villager, without knowing what it was and thought it would be great to hike. Is there any kind trail or is it just 'get to the top'?
10/31/2019
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

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Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
Buford wrote:
Most SUVs and trucks should be able to get to the Butler/Rockhouse junction. The final 3 miles to the end of Rockhouse Truck Trail can be a mess. It depends on how bad the monsoons were, how armored your vehicle is, or how tolerant you are of body damage.


Very tolerant....this was from back in 2013, just didn't see that boulder...



Ouch. I nice amount of desert pin stripping also I see.
10/31/2019
Topic:
CalTopo is stepping up their game

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Rocko1
Thanks. I DL the app for IOS and it wasn't as intuitive as I had hoped. Lots of blank map area and drawing a line is difficult. I am sure things will improve as it's just a beta. For now Gaia has been my staple for all hiking routes.
11/4/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
Here is the back of one of my old shirts from the race, it can give you some real miles along the way.


edited by dsefcik on 9/15/2019


That race looks awesome but brutal. I was hoping they had the gps track but I didn't see that on the website.


Found out my brother is moving out of state soon so this trip may have to be shelved for a bit.
11/4/2019
Topic:
Pinyon Ridge

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Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Daren, Great photos. I like photo #6 the best. Something about b&w that makes it special. Also the last photo makes you wonder. I see a face in it too. Kudos to ranger Steve. Rest in peace. Hey, Car camping (Truck bed) is my preferred way to go for day hikes or combo day/ back packs. I now use a 4" foam pad. hehe. Nice trip.

btw. Glad to here your back is getting stronger.

When I purchased the truck from tommy750 he was kind enough to also include a nice 8" memory foam mattress which I had to cut down to 4" and make a little setup from scrap wood from work.

(note 25 liter SquadBak)




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edited by dsefcik on 10/3/2019



I dig that setup! What is the bed length of the truck?
11/5/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
deborah wrote:

Anyway, here's a link to map. I think I have it set to be visible, but let me know if you can't get to it.

https://caltopo.com/m/VLAV


Your route is slightly different than the original...check out the wayback machine for the last one:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030603211938/http://www.lostboysultra.com/

Here is the course map


I always forget about the archive. Thanks.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/5/2019
11/5/2019
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

Rocko1
Rocko1
My brother got tired of the scratches as well and painted his entire Explorer in bed liner. Problem solved.







If it wasn't for the transmission going out I would have bought it from him. Good desert rig.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/5/2019
11/5/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

Rocko1
Rocko1
deborah wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Here is the back of one of my old shirts from the race, it can give you some real miles along the way.


edited by dsefcik on 9/15/2019


That race looks awesome but brutal. I was hoping they had the gps track but I didn't see that on the website.


Found out my brother is moving out of state soon so this trip may have to be shelved for a bit.


I put a route for this run into CalTopo a little while ago. I haven't done the run myself, but I was curious. It looks like a beast. smile I based the route on the website description. Hopefully it's representative. I can't remember why I broke it up into sections. It was either for cut-off times, or maybe just playing around with fun day hikes.

Anyway, here's a link to map. I think I have it set to be visible, but let me know if you can't get to it.

https://caltopo.com/m/VLAV



That is awesome! Thank you.

Seems no matter how I slice it, I just can't get the mileage under 63 or so.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/5/2019
11/6/2019
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

Rocko1
Rocko1
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
My brother got tired of the scratches as well and painted his entire Explorer in bed liner. Problem solved.


OMG...Desert Tan bed liner no less...I know what I am doing this 3 day weekend..!!!




That's the stuff. He used 10 cans for the Explorer.
11/11/2019
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Rocko1
Rocko1
Will be getting some time off soon and I'd like to try this route https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8 as a day hike. The majority of it appears to be on BLM. Anyone see any issues with this and the possibility of it crossing private land?
11/11/2019
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Rocko1
Rocko1
Scooter wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
I have been wanting to hike from Laguna to the desert floor and interested in the best route. Other than the PCT, has anyone tried Storm Canyon or have any other routes?


Rocko looks lime a great trip, two years ago did Schads route off the end of Monument Peak Rd down into the Potero Canyon. Spent the night at a spring on the desert floor. Next day hiked out and spent the night at Auga Caliente Springs campground. Dramatic views hiking down off the Lagunas. Good Luck



Interesting. I don't see any trail coming off of that peak-just hiked that Saturday. Did you just follow the canyon or ridge?
11/12/2019
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Rocko1
Rocko1
tommy750 wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Will be getting some time off soon and I'd like to try this route https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8 as a day hike. The majority of it appears to be on BLM. Anyone see any issues with this and the possibility of it crossing private land?



Can't comment on the Cuyamaca route but your Mason Valley truck trail and Cottonwood routes look fine. You could take a bit of the old Lassater Hay road back to your vehicle by following a ridge with a faint road just as the MVTT turns toward the NW. Pull up the 1915-1945 historic topo layer to see it.



Thanks Tommy! That shaved 2.67 miles and 459ft of gain off the route. May have enough energy to attempt Granite from the backside now.




https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8
edited by Rocko1 on 11/12/2019
11/12/2019
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

Rocko1
Rocko1
dliponi wrote:
Hi Everybody:
Some updates - we are getting into the Kumeyaay Nation - today a rock art tour with some Kumeyaay to a site on Private Land with permission. Beyond the Casinos - there is a lot of help needed on the Rezs. We get to present to their students and share with their elders about our work. On another topic, so far, we have book tour dates that are on the Book's website [larumorosarockart.com] for ABDNHA, PCAS, San Diego County Archaeological Society, Pacific Beach Public Library and many sites beyond San Diego including Coachella Valley and Arizona. In short, we are getting the word out on our rock art.
Thanks to everyone,
Don


Very cool. Are any of the Poway/Rancho Bernardo images in your book?

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/pomerado-news/news/local-news/sd-cm-pow-news-rock-art-20181203-htmlstory.html
11/14/2019
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Rocko1
Rocko1
deborah wrote:
These routes look like fun. I did the Mason Valley Truck Trail from Blair Valley a few years ago. It was really pretty, only saw two vehicles despite it being on the weekend. I especially like the change in vegetation along the route. And it was a little drizzly that day too. Started off the day with a nice rainbow!

Whichever route you choose, looking forward to hearing how it goes!


I would love to have weather like that! I am hoping there won't be too many Jeeps. On the Alltrails app it says the gate is closed so that may help out. Will report back for sure.
11/18/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
Have been wanting to hike from Sunrise Hwy to the desert for sometime and had a day off to try. My route was to start at the Pedro Fages monument on S1 and take the Mason Valley Truck Trail down to the base of Granite Mountain. I thought if I had enough time/energy I would attempt Granite peak from the southwest side having already hike it from the usual east side.

I started around 6:30am and cut across a grass field and connected to the PCT.


I went right between these to bumps to connect to the PCT.


I took Tommy’s advise and located the Lassator Hay Road that went from the PCT down to the MVTT.
This is the road that rides on top of this ridge. This is the best section-the second half the brush gets very thick-head high-until it hits the MVTT. This road from PCT to MVTT is .6 miles. I didn’t see any evidence anyone has used this trail.


Here I am on the truck trail looking back up the hay road.


Here is a little further down the road looking back towards S1. You can see the faint tracks on the hay road just to the left of center and the truck trail going up towards the right.


As I headed towards Oriflame Canyon I was shocked at how well graded this road is. I though any 2wd sedan would handle this no problem.




Until I got the steep section. It went from near perfect dirt road to bad real quick. This isn’t even the worst section.


Getting near the bottom of the canyon there were some critter tracks. Not sure what this is. Opossum?


I know what this is.


Scat as well



Healthy cactus.

Got to the bottom in 2 hours and felt great so I decided to go up the backside of Granite. I had a gpx track of this route and followed an decent track up to about 3,200ft. From there I lost the trail and decided to take what appeared to be the easiest ridge.


Saw some faint trails on the ridge and then they disappeared so I just chose a path and went what felt like straight up-billy goat style. I got to 4,000ft and ran out of gas. Took a break and rested a bit. I had about 8+ miles and some real gain to get back to the care-the peak would have to wait another day. (When I got back I had missed a junction that went up a less steep section and would have been easier)
Turned around here.

Some great moss.

Went down a bit to a flat section of the saddle and rested before the hike back. Is it ever too hot for coffee?


Looking towards Oriflamme Canyon.


Something causes this deer's antlers to shear off.


The hike back was a grind. Exposed the entire hike and loose rock for some of it. Was warmer than I had hoped for.
As I approached the hay road I wasn’t in the mood to deal with the brush so I took the truck trail up to the PCT and back to the field towards my car. This is just near the truck trail/PCT junction.
Large concrete water tank-I looked inside-dry.

Valve

Made it back to the car about 2:45pm.

One balloon.


Stats for the hike. 16.91 miles, 3,964ft gain.




I went took 5.5L of water and had .75L left. Saw 2 people the entire day-in jeeps camped near the hay road off the truck trail. This would be a better hike in cooler weather. I am a bit stumped as to why I ‘bonked’ halfway through. The hike up to this point wasn’t difficult for me. This is the second time it’s happened; other time was near the peak of San Gorgonio. I hit the wall at about 1 mile from the peak. Strange. Have to figure this out.

Link to album-https://imgur.com/a/wkhQpgy
edited by Rocko1 on 11/19/2019
11/18/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
Scooter wrote:
Looks like a great trip!! there is the old Redmond mine on the Southwest slope of Granite that is interesting to look around. It is labeled on the Topo maps. I too have had that problem of losing energy at the end. Even on Villager which I have done several times. I think nutrition plays a big role toward the end of the day.



I followed what I think is the trail to that mine for part of the way. https://caltopo.com/m/8A1B I want to go back in cooler temps and explore this area more.

I need to dial in my long hike nutrition, been doing low carb for a couple of years and the only time I run into this is during longer, higher output hikes. This one I just hit the wall very early for some reason.
11/19/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
deborah wrote:
What a great day out! I really like the pictures. I'm always amazed at the vibrant colors of moss.

Regarding energy, one thing that really helps me is staying on top of my electrolyte intake. Even then it still seems like an art form sometimes. smile It may not be relevant for you, but thought I'd mention it just in case.


Thanks for posting the trip report. I didn't actually get out this weekend and this gives me my fix. smile



Thanks. I 'think' I have my electrolytes down. I take these https://www.hammernutrition.com/endurolytes-fizz?quantity=1&flavor=415&size=56
and have some of these as well-http://saltstick.com/product/saltstick-fastchews/. Hard to gauge if it's enough/too much but I didn't cramp at all which sometimes happens to me on long days.
11/19/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
Buford wrote:
Cool trip.

I've used the Hay Road. It needs some use to keep it open.


I agree. I am still amazed that you can see the tracks after all these years of non-truck use. I guess the soil is so compacted not much can grow?
11/19/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
tekewin wrote:
Great report and trip! It was a big day even without hitting the top of Granite. I'm surprised you didn't run into more brush coming down from S1. Not too familiar The southwest route is the only one I've taken up Granite. I peaked into two mine adits that were accessible but had rodent droppings inside. I also remember an ocean of what looked like prickly pear around there. Did you navigate through that?

For super long days (>12 hours), I had to add a lot of calories and carbs. I started adding a large sub from Wich Wich or Jersey Mikes. I usually pick it up the night before and keep it in the fridge. It is a black art to find the right combination of food and fluids when you are pushing yourself. I'm sure you'll find what works for you.



Thanks. The brush off trail in the area surrounding the PCT near S1 is really thriving and getting dense. The hay road is really a great shortcut and just becomes thick the last section.

I did see an abnormal amount of prickly pear on this section. Where I veared off the mine road and went north up the ridge is really dense with many different cactus and plants. That whole area about 3,200ft+ is very healthy. The rain really helped out.

I agree it is tough to dial in the food. I have a tough time eating during the hike. Doesn't sit well so I try to just put it off until the end or eat as little as possible-small piece of cheese one bar.
11/20/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
ziphius wrote:
Great trip! Gorgeous mountain lion tracks too. Post those to iNaturalist! What size were your mystery tracks? They are not opossum, but could be striped skunk, but it's hard to judge scale from the photos.



Thanks. The mystery tracks were about 1.25-1.5" wide. I think you may be right about the skunk. From what I saw online that is the closest match. I did add the mountain lion tracks to iNaturalist.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/20/2019
11/20/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
rockhopper wrote:
Great trip report and photos! That's a long bold hike with short day lite hours. You must have been really moving. You probably burned thru all your Calories for the day. Granite Mtn. has unique views at the top. Don't worry, it took me three times to climb it from the East side. First two times got hit with Rain, then Snow. Climbed Granite mtn. from the West from Rodriguez canyon near the Tourmaline mine. Looks like you went right past the Mine shaft on the South face of your Granite accent. I did your hike on three different outings.wink
edited by rockhopper on 11/20/2019


Thanks. I got down to the base of Granite pretty quick-hiking downhill on the truck trail you can really fly. Going up was a different story.

First time I went up there in February it was freezing and there was snow/ice at the top.

I did enjoy that weather. It would be really difficult if it was actively snowing/raining though! From what I have read the west approach is easier.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/20/2019
11/21/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
tommy750 wrote:
Nice trip, Rocko. The 2002 Pines fire cleared out all the brush on the eastern slopes of the Lagunas but is it ever back with a vengeance! Daren and I were out exploring off trail in that same band of chaparral a couple weekends ago and gave up after a couple miles of nasty bushwhacking. Your really healthy area on Granite below 4000ft doesn't show any recent fire damage so maybe that's why it looked so good.



When I was searching for the hay road I got about 30 yards off the PCT and said to myself-if this is the road forget it! The brush was just relentless. Like you said, if you had to bushwack any distance it would be miserable. Luckily when I found the road it was like heaven in comparison.

Hay road in center, Chariot and Granite in the background.
11/21/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
rockhopper wrote:
rocko1 I agree. The east approach to Granite Mtn starts at around Elevation 2500 ft vs the West approach starts 1000 feet higher at about 3500 feet at the Rodriguez canyon truck trail. BTW first time I went up/down the Oriflame trail steep section It was real rough. I remember the "Turn" on the side of the canyon being pretty scary in a RV going down hill. I read the early ranchers/ wagon trail builders basically followed a Early Native American trail to build the road.


Was your western approach more north that my route? It looks really steep the further up Rodriquez you go.

I can't imagine anything going up the Mason Valley T.T. now except a well equipped jeep.
11/25/2019
Topic:
Texas trip

Rocko1
Rocko1
Great pictures!
11/25/2019
Topic:
Elder North first ascent

Rocko1
Rocko1
Wow great report! I love the more obscure 'peaks' of the desert. Looks like a great time.
12/2/2019
Topic:
Death Valley 9 Days Trip Report

Rocko1
Rocko1
Great pictures! Looks like a nice trip.
12/3/2019
Topic:
Good places for rainy days

Rocko1
Rocko1
Awesome pics! Hoping to get out there this week.
12/4/2019
Topic:
Lower Carrizo Creek

Rocko1
Rocko1
Great pictures. Granite looks fantastic with snow!
12/4/2019
Topic:
Lower Carrizo Creek

Rocko1
Rocko1
Britain wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Great pictures. Granite looks fantastic with snow!


Seemed like everything had snow on it.

Whale Peak

Looking over at the entrance to Indian Gorge

Those are great too. What a storm that was.
12/5/2019
Topic:
Death Valley 9 Days Trip Report

Rocko1
Rocko1
Did you make it out to Devils Hole?
12/5/2019
Topic:
Lower Carrizo Creek

Rocko1
Rocko1
What camera/lens did you use?
12/11/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
Had a couple days off and decided to finish my west approach(actually south west) of Granite. I parked a little bit off S2 and took the old mining road up-this time following it all the way to the mines. It had rained the day before. Everything smelled great. Was about 48f when I started, and a bit cooler than that at the top.

Lots of left over metal/trash from the operation.


From what I can tell looks like a 40-60’s era oil can?



This is at the below the mines looking south.


The first most open mine. I was not peaking in for a look.


Second one had a large boulder blocking the entrance. Not sure if it was intentional or not.


On top of the first ridge looking to the east at Whale in the background.


About 3 miles in you hit a pretty dense cactus garden.

Video of how that section looks.- https://youtu.be/s7m0T4cfkVQ



Looking up the ridge. Only obstacle is the dike.




Past that it’s a pretty easy navigation to the peak. A bit of scrambling to get on top of the peak.


Three makers.



Sadly the register that was in the red coffee cans was missing. It was there when I was here in the beginning of the year. I looked around thinking it fell off but no luck.
Good view of Toro with snow.

360 View
https://youtu.be/ABSpjUu5X78
Found a good spot to take a break and try out the new chair. REI Flexlite Air. 16oz. Pretty comfortable!


Down the ridge I go.


Healthy pine tree . Love to see these trees in AB.


More ‘gear’ near the mine. Vintage tall boy?


Sleeping accommodations.


Followed the mine road back to Rodriguez Canyon Rd and then back to the car. It’s pretty good hike.
11.5 miles, 3,400ft gain.



I like this route better than the east side as there is less scrambling. I would be interested to know what they were mining and when the operation was active.
edited by Rocko1 on 12/11/2019
edited by Rocko1 on 12/13/2019
12/12/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
Buford wrote:
That's looks like a fun way to do Grapevine. Thanks for putting up the pictures of the scenery along the way. I can't believe you packed a chair all the way up.



Thanks. After I sat in it a total of 5 minutes I thought the same thing! Just wanted to try it out. I usually just take a sit pad made from a Z-Lite sleeping pad. Weighs 2oz.
12/12/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
Britain wrote:
Nice! Found a firefighter burned handheld radio up near the ridgeline a while back. The Redmans mines are always fun to explore. Theres a Geocache next to the V shaped rock formation near the ridgeline also. That hike is a tough one for me.



Interesting. There are quite a few decent camp spots as you move up the ridge. Would be a good 2 day hike as well. It would be nice to see the sunrise from that ridge.
12/12/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
Britain wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Britain wrote:
Nice! Found a firefighter burned handheld radio up near the ridgeline a while back. The Redmans mines are always fun to explore. Theres a Geocache next to the V shaped rock formation near the ridgeline also. That hike is a tough one for me.



Interesting. There are quite a few decent camp spots as you move up the ridge. Would be a good 2 day hike as well. It would be nice to see the sunrise from that ridge.



I did my hike when I was 61. I got to the ridgeline and at the base of the rocky final and ran out of steam. I should have just finished it.

This is a photo about 1/4 mile past the old bed.



Gus is buried in the Julian cemetery.
Geo next to this formation at the bottom

Its a fun place would be good for a 2 dayer



I missed that rock! Very cool area. Such great views from that ridge.
12/12/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
rockhopper wrote:
I am guessing they were mining for Gold? Looks like the same schist formation found in Julian hard rock mining. Nice hike! I really enjoyed hiking all over Granite form the East, West and South. A North approach would be a challenge. Mainly a parking challenge. Where to park your rig? Granite side note: A geologist suggested the Granite mountain was part of the Laguna range and was detached as a fault block and slid away as part of the Salton sink pull apart basin tectonic plate movement, Wow!



I parked off S2 and drove up the Mason Valley Wash just a bit. 33.0104, -116.4605.

On Monday I did a long hike on the north side of Granite on the PCT headed towards Cuyamaca. Was looking for routes up that side but the brush is pretty substantial as are the boulders in the washes. Would have to be from north west-I thought I saw a couple of viable options although much steeper than where I went up.
12/12/2019
Topic:
PCT South from Scissors Crossing

Rocko1
Rocko1
Had the day off and decided to head back down and hike the section of the PCT south of Scissors Crossing. It skirts the base of Granite on the north side, crosses Rodriguez Truck Trail and heads up the back of Chariot Mountain. Perfect weather for a long day about 45F at 7am. Wanted to try out new day pack-Osprey Talon 22. It’s a bit heavier than the REI Flash 22 but it has nice hip belts which make carrying more water much more comfortable. Carried 5L with other essentials with zero shoulder soreness.

After about a mile you go through this gate and head straight for Granite.


After about 1.5 miles the trail hugs the mountain and heads west.
Looking back towards the start and Grapevine Mountain.


About 4 miles in looking north west.

Everything out here is so lush. Fern and moss.


About 7 miles in it crosses Rodriguez Truck Trail.

There is a water spigot here. Turned it on and there was flow.


Headed up towards Chariot looking east.


At about the 10 mile mark I stopped for a break.

Looking west you can see the hay road I took a few weeks back.


Some great colors this time of year.


A pine tree on the side of the trail. Anyone know what kind?


A mortero just off the trail as well.


Plenty of campsites used on this section from all the PCT hikers. This one had it’s own hobo stove.


Made it back to the car just before 3. 20.3 miles, 3,320ft gain.


Saw one person on the way back. Good spot during the week to crank out some miles.
12/13/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
ziphius wrote:
Nice photos + trip. I bet you're the 1st person to carry a chair up to Granite. smile



Thanks. Probably! Was itching to try it out.
12/13/2019
Topic:
PCT South from Scissors Crossing

Rocko1
Rocko1
deborah wrote:
Oh I love this section of the PCT! I haven't been out there when it's so green though. It must be so pretty. I'm inspired to go check it out.

I've always liked Osprey packs. Glad yours is working out so far. Nice trip report!



Thanks. It really is a good workout. The ups and downs don't make the gain seem bad at all.
12/13/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
tommy750 wrote:
Nice TR. Never been up Granite. BTW, who is Norman Glover??



Thanks. I would suggest this route. Very enjoyable, plenty of good spots for breaks, etc. Really enjoyed the section with the dense cactus. One of the thicker cactus forests I have seen in AB.


edited by Rocko1 on 12/13/2019
12/13/2019
Topic:
PCT South from Scissors Crossing

Rocko1
Rocko1
rockhopper wrote:
You timed the perfect weather for putting on some fast miles. Way to go! Nice report. I was out in the desert around the same time, but I was being a lounge lizard soaking in the hot springs looking up at the snow on the San Jacinto's planning my future hikes. hehe



Thanks. The weather and ground were perfect for the fast hike. I have gotten this '20 before 2' in my head. Started late but this section is conducive to fast miles if there isn't anyone out there during the week really. Same for miles 49 to 59 or so although these are a bit more accessible-great views from up there.
12/13/2019
Topic:
Super steep or steep

Rocko1
Rocko1
rockhopper wrote:
I really enjoy the East route. Schad's route. Going thru the lower drainage thru old Native American village sites then onward up the east ridges. Vegetation more friendly. Either way fantastic mountain.



Didn't know there were village sites on this route. This one is a bit tougher than the mine route in my opinion but I love the canyon at the bottom especially when water is running.

Having done both routes the easier is the south west route going by the mine-easier terrain, easier to follow 'trail', less scrambling.

East approach averages 895/ft per mile gain. Southwest approach, starting at Rodriguez Rd, is 758/ft per mile gain. These stats were pulled from my gpx tracks.



edited by Rocko1 on 12/13/2019
12/13/2019
Topic:
Jacumba Mountains

Rocko1
Rocko1
Very nice. Did you get up there north of Palm Canyon Wash?
12/16/2019
Topic:
PCT South from Scissors Crossing

Rocko1
Rocko1
tekewin wrote:
Great hike on a section of the PCT I doubt I'll see. Ospreys are my fav packs. I have a Talon 22, but 5L of water seems like a a lot for that pack. Did you do that with a hydration pack and loose bottles? BTW, I prefer the camelbak hydration system because they are easier to clean, at least for me. So I usually end up with an Osprey pack and camelbak hydration.



The Talon did great with 5L-I used (2) 1.5L bottles and (2) 1L Smart bottles. I usually use a REI Flash 22 but it's not comfortable with more than 10-12lbs as the hip belt is just a 1" web strap. The Talon was really nice with all the weight I had.

I stopped using bladders because they are a pain for me to clean/dry and after having one spring a leak and losing the bulk of my water I just don't trust them.
12/16/2019
Topic:
PCT South from Scissors Crossing

Rocko1
Rocko1
Britain wrote:
I've pieced that trail from the border to Scissors. A nice hike you did. Also sport an Osprey backpack



I also would like to do the border to Laguna some weekend. Camp at Lake Morena and do a long day to Laguna.
12/16/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
tekewin wrote:
Yeah, I haven't seen as much cactus anywhere else...



That's a great picture illustrating how dense this section is. I am fascinated about how some area can be so fertile and seem to have the perfect properties for grows like this and just a few yards away over the hill can be barren and barely anything will thrive.
12/18/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
rockhopper wrote:
Looking more and more like Baja California. Makes sense since the Deserts globally have moved North about 100 miles in the past 100 years.

BTW did we determine what Mr Redmond was mining?



From what I have read it was gold.
12/18/2019
Topic:
Kitchen Creek Fall Colors

Rocko1
Rocko1
Very nice! Did you see any ticks? I did a day hike in Cuyamaca-similar flora and fauna-and picked 10 ticks off my pants in a 1 mile stretch.
12/18/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

Rocko1
Rocko1
Britain wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Looking more and more like Baja California. Makes sense since the Deserts globally have moved North about 100 miles in the past 100 years.

BTW did we determine what Mr Redmond was mining?


Yes gold. Gus Redman worked the mine sold it and bought it back. I believe his wife's brother found the first gold at Chariot.

Only picture of Redman I could uncover.

edited by Britain on 12/18/2019



I couldn't find anymore info on Redman either. I did see this PDF article that talked about mines in Julian/Cuyamaca and surrounding areas in the 1870's. Interesting stuff. Just search for keywords-Julian- as the pdf is quite large.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=2ahUKEwiHq9Lnh8DmAhXD3J4KHRLIDTgQFjACegQIBBAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blm.gov%2Fdownload%2Ffile%2Ffid%2F29130&usg=AOvVaw0Yz9H03KfM--pbclhhbXHV
12/18/2019
Topic:
Kitchen Creek Fall Colors

Rocko1
Rocko1
ziphius wrote:
Nice photos. I ran into a couple of researchers collecting ticks along Pine Valley Creek last week. They said that the tick species (Ixodes) responsible for carrying Lyme disease is mostly-absent from extreme southern CA. They also confirmed that in areas where Western Fence lizards occur, that Lyme disease is largely-absent. https://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Lizards-Slow-Lyme-Disease-in-West-Ticks-bite-3009330.php



Interesting. I have heard the lizards are really helping. Out of the 10 I picked off 2 were for sure deer ticks-red bellies. I have read a few cases of lymes in SD County. I started treating my clothes/boots/pack/etc with permethrin a while back when I started seeing them in Cuyamaca and AB. This year looks to be a bad year for all bugs with the weather we have had. Better safe that sorry.

FWIW-the Harvey Moore trail section that runs along Harper Creek is where I have seen the densest. Multiple years/trips I have checked and had them on my pants.
edited by Rocko1 on 12/18/2019
12/18/2019
Topic:
Mortero Palms to Goat Canyon Trestle, then North

Rocko1
Rocko1
Buford wrote:
Awesome. I can't believe someone put up a rope to get around that dry fall. It is passable without. Cool to see all the SeKi snow too.

It looks like the fire isn't in a metal container. FYI, that is an expensive ticket. I know someone that got cited for that infraction recently in Borrego. They were well off the beaten path and didn't know the rules. A ranger pulled up and surprised them at night.



I carry a $1 store steel pie tin for fires while backpacking. Works well and only weighs 3oz or so.
12/19/2019
Topic:
Kitchen Creek Fall Colors

Rocko1
Rocko1
Buford wrote:
Nice report on Kitchen Creek.

I hate ticks. On Palomar near Agua Tibia and Eagle Crag they are everywhere.

I know two people first hand who have been diagnosed with Lyme in San Diego County. They may or may not have picked it up outside the county but were diagnosed here.

I found a deer tick crawling on my hand when I was taking pictures of the sheep off Montezuma a couple weeks ago.



I read a few articles of a homeowner in Ramona getting lyme while clearing brush from his property. Hadn't traveled anywhere, etc. While risk may be lower than east coast I hate when it's thought that you can't get it in SD County. There is even signs posted in Cuyamaca at trailheads talking about lymes.


Last year we had some at Lizard Wash in AB. Just hiking through sparse hills with cactus. That kind of shocked me.
12/19/2019
Topic:
Inner Pasture Suggestions?

Rocko1
Rocko1
Anyone suggest a route for a day hike to the inner pasture? I have not hiked this section and would like to check it out.
12/19/2019
Topic:
Inner Pasture Suggestions?

Rocko1
Rocko1
ziphius wrote:
Moonlight Canyon trail from Agua Caliente Co. Park is the standard route. Mile 41 canyon off the S2 has easier terrain, but more migrant foot-traffic.




Thanks. I didn't know this was area migrants would use. Seem they would get landlocked in the pasture no?

Safe for a solo trip or should this area only be hiked with others?
edited by Rocko1 on 12/19/2019
12/19/2019
Topic:
Inner Pasture Suggestions?

Rocko1
Rocko1
ziphius wrote:
I was also surprised by the amount of travel through there. I've never encountered a migrant in Inner Pasture, but there is clearly some use, as evidenced by certain areas of trash and discarded textiles. Also evidence of travel over the saddle that separates Canebrake from The Potrero, some serious terrain. I think it is due to the checkpoint along S2.



Ah, ok. Is that the saddle between Peak 6260 and Sawtooth Mountains High Point?
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