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2 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Park Closed?
dsefcik wrote:
Officially it is closed. We were out there last weekend (before it closed) and it was Spring Break for most folks and the rangers were busy at Ocotillo Wells and the north end of the park. Christmas Circle had tons of visitors, motorcycle riders, Jeeps, etc. Cuyamaca had beautiful snow and very few people, I saw one family with an entire hillside to themselves, sliding down the slopes.



I got in the last legal hike for the foreseeable future in Cuyamaca on Sunday. Snow starting about 4200ft.

2 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain? ID Help

Rocko1
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Buford wrote:
I am 70% certain I know where that is.

That isn’t Granite.

The shot is likely from Borrego Springs somewhere looking West. Sirens Peak is In the center, East Ysidro on the right. Far left and almost out of the image is Webo BM. My best guess.

Cool to have recorded memories of the desert.



That's it! Palm Canyon Hotel and RV Resort is what it's called now.
Thank you so much. This is was my first trip to AB with my grandparents. I was 5. I just discovered some of the pictures.





Wish I had their old trailer. Pretty roomy.

edited by Rocko1 on 4/1/2020
2 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Park Closed?
I just got an email from the park confirming the park is closed and no volunteer activities for the foreseeable future as well.

I would guess they will step up enforcement soon. Shelter in place does not mean everyone from the city should head to the beach or desert.
2 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain? ID Help

Buford
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I am 70% certain I know where that is.

That isn’t Granite.

The shot is likely from Borrego Springs somewhere looking West. Sirens Peak is In the center, East Ysidro on the right. Far left and almost out of the image is Webo BM. My best guess.

Cool to have recorded memories of the desert.
2 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain? ID Help

dsefcik
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dsefcik
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Topic: Granite Mountain? ID Help
I am not seeing Granite Mtn in there but it sure looks awfully familiar....I am still looking....
2 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

dsefcik
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dsefcik
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Topic: Park Closed?
Officially it is closed. We were out there last weekend (before it closed) and it was Spring Break for most folks and the rangers were busy at Ocotillo Wells and the north end of the park. Christmas Circle had tons of visitors, motorcycle riders, Jeeps, etc. Cuyamaca had beautiful snow and very few people, I saw one family with an entire hillside to themselves, sliding down the slopes.
2 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

DesertWRX
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DesertWRX
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Topic: Park Closed?
ABDSP has not been putting up closure signs very well. Then again south of 78 there are lots of roads and that area is not patrolled as well as the main part of the Park. The Air Patrol Ranger is making PA announcements to campers and parked vehicles when needed.
2 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain? ID Help

Rocko1
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I found an old picture of me and my grandmother in an rv park. Year is around 1978. I am thinking this maybe Stagecoach RV park but I am not sure it was there at that time. Looks a little like Granite in the background. Does anyone recognize that mountain in AB?
3 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

Scooter
Scooter
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Scooter
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Topic: Park Closed?
Just left Pinyon Wash this afternoon. Did a day hike to Blue Spring. The tanks are over flowing with all the water !! When i came out to Hwy 78 there were no signs or tape or anything at the entrance to Pinyon Wash Road FYI
3 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

Buford
Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Park Closed?
I just checked the webpage. Further down it says all dirt roads are closed to vehicles.

They are explicitly discouraging non locals to visit.
3 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

railexplorer
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railexplorer
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Topic: Park Closed?
I copied this off the parks website this morning... UPDATE (March 31, 2020): This park is temporarily closed to vehicular access. The park remains open for locals who wish to walk, hike and bike (in parks with bike trails) in the park, provided they practice social/physical distancing of 6 feet or more.

4 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

Buford
Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Park Closed?
Correct, park is closed.

Additionally many small communities are discouraging visitors. Julian was specifically mentioned in the San Diego UT. Many small communities have limited medical facilities.
4 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Park Closed?
With vehicle access closed, I assume the rest of the park(trails) is closed as well?


UPDATE (March 29, 2020): Vehicle access closed at ALL 280 state parks.

edited by Rocko1 on 3/30/2020
9 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

Rocko1
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rockhopper wrote:
Rocko1 It is my understanding that they did use simple footwear made from animal skins and sewn with yucca and other fashioned footwear. Also of note is that the thousands of miles of foot trails interlacing the entire region and beyond were extremely well groomed over the course of thousands of years and repaired constantly. There are remnants of these trails still in existence and you can walk them barefoot!


I have seen what I thought was an old trail-very worn path. Can't recall where in the park though.
9 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
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Here's a recent article on Obsidian Butte: http://www.swxrflab.net/obsbutte.htm Looks like it just formed 2500 years ago. Most of our local obsidian is from Obsidian Butte but smaller amounts are sourced from Coso Volcanic Field to the north and San Felipe to the south. Nice how the chemical signature can definitely identify the source. Obsidian Butte is listed by the USGS as a "high to very high" volcanic threat rank and the only one so designated in So Cal.
10 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

rockhopper
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Rocko1 It is my understanding that they did use simple footwear made from animal skins and sewn with yucca and other fashioned footwear. Also of note is that the thousands of miles of foot trails interlacing the entire region and beyond were extremely well groomed over the course of thousands of years and repaired constantly. There are remnants of these trails still in existence and you can walk them barefoot!
10 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

Rocko1
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rockhopper wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Looks like you covered a lot area on foot of that vastly in under explored place in our county. 45 miles. Wow! Good eye on the arrow points. The fact that the points were not made of the preferred obsidian means that most likely Lake Cahuilla was full thus covering the locals preferred obsidian source. Good point on the ranchers / miners building atop of older habitations. I've noticed that too.

Really like that area since it's so desolate and peaceful. That's a good observation about the alternative materials when Obsidian Butte was under water. Don't know if the obsidian hydration techniques are accurate enough to determine if all the obsidian artifacts around here dated to periods when the butte was exposed or whether it's already been looked at. Did find one obsidian point but pretty beat up.


Tommy, Found this from an old article. Shows how far Obsidian butte material traveled. To the coast and up north and down to Northern Baja over thousands of years. The early Native Americans of the area were known to have walked up to 40 miles in a day carrying trading goods. I need to hike more!



edited by rockhopper on 3/24/2020

Interesting! 40 miles with no shoes or leather moccasins.
10 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

rockhopper
rockhopper
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tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Looks like you covered a lot area on foot of that vastly in under explored place in our county. 45 miles. Wow! Good eye on the arrow points. The fact that the points were not made of the preferred obsidian means that most likely Lake Cahuilla was full thus covering the locals preferred obsidian source. Good point on the ranchers / miners building atop of older habitations. I've noticed that too.

Really like that area since it's so desolate and peaceful. That's a good observation about the alternative materials when Obsidian Butte was under water. Don't know if the obsidian hydration techniques are accurate enough to determine if all the obsidian artifacts around here dated to periods when the butte was exposed or whether it's already been looked at. Did find one obsidian point but pretty beat up.


Tommy, Found this from an old article. Shows how far Obsidian butte material traveled. To the coast and up north and down to Northern Baja over thousands of years. The early Native Americans of the area were known to have walked up to 40 miles in a day carrying trading goods. I need to hike more!



edited by rockhopper on 3/24/2020
12 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

tekewin
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Great report, thanks. It definitely doesn't sound fun to be camping in the cold during a storm. Winds in AB are the harshest I've experienced. Granite is a hard mountain, worthy of the name.
12 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tekewin
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Very nice! Those old soda pull tops could be made into a launcher. You separate the flat part of the tab from the ring, then load the ring onto the wide side of tab using the notch on either side , then fire!
12 days ago
Topic:
Solstice Cave and Goat Canyon

tekewin
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Nice photos. It's a magical place. I also had a hard time finding it even with a pretty good description of where to look. I only went a little past it before spotting it below. I felt an unusual sense of calm in the cave.
15 days ago
Topic:
Solstice Cave and Goat Canyon

rockhopper
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Nice hike and great photos. Thanks for sharing. Solstice cave is on my list.
15 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

Rocko1
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Brian wrote:
Seeing artifacts - even relatively recent ones like the ejection strap - always makes me think of the event that caused that object to be there and how it has been undisturbed and mostly unobserved since. It gives a sense of the scale of time. It's one of the things I love about the desert.

This is why I love the desert so much. It really puts into scale how insignificant one lifetime is. Thinking about previous lives of the people who lived here is really mind blowing.
16 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
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Brian wrote:
Seeing artifacts - even relatively recent ones like the ejection strap - always makes me think of the event that caused that object to be there and how it has been undisturbed and mostly unobserved since. It gives a sense of the scale of time. It's one of the things I love about the desert.


Definitely agree. Lots of backstories to ponder.
16 days ago
Topic:
Solstice Cave and Goat Canyon

ziphius
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Great trip report and congrats on finding the cave! That dry fall looks scary.
16 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

ziphius
ziphius
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Great trip report and points Tom! I think your 'skid marks' are from a gray fox.
16 days ago
Topic:
Solstice Cave and Goat Canyon

Rocko1
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Awesome! Great pics.
I attempted the cave a couple years back and did not find it either. 3 hours of boulder hopping upwards and I didn't see anything close.
16 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

Brian
Brian
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Seeing artifacts - even relatively recent ones like the ejection strap - always makes me think of the event that caused that object to be there and how it has been undisturbed and mostly unobserved since. It gives a sense of the scale of time. It's one of the things I love about the desert.
16 days ago
Topic:
Solstice Cave and Goat Canyon

Brian
Brian
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Last weekend seemed like a good time to head for the desert. I wanted to revisit Rockhouse Canyon, but I'm assuming it won't be possible to drive over Clark Lake for a while, so I headed for a couple locations in the southern end of the park.

On Saturday I visited the Solstice Cave above Indian Valley. I had only found vague descriptions of the location (and I will follow that convention here also). Suffice it to say I had a pre-conceived notion of the location and I was totally wrong. After over an hour of searching at what turned out to be 300' too high, I gave up and was headed back in defeat when I ran right into it. Strange that other accounts I've read seem similar to mine in the sense that it's difficult but not impossible to find. I also realized that my initial mistake was actually lucky as my route up was fairly easy. On the way down I tried to take a more direct route, which suuucked.

On Sunday I set my sights on the Goat Canyon trestle by way of Mortero Palms. I have been to and over the trestle by other routes (always legally, strangely enough) but this was my first encounter with the dry fall on this route. When I got to the fall, a combination of no rope, being alone and not being sure of the safest way down made me decide to turn back at that point.

Inside the Solstice Cave





Outside the Solstice Cave


If you see me on the trail say hi


The dry fall and the view from there



edited by Brian on 3/18/2020
edited by Brian on 3/18/2020
17 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

Scooter
Scooter
Posts: 58
On our trip in from North Indian Valley, took an experienced backpacker that had not done any desert off trail hiking. He picked up three cholla bombs in about the first half mile. He learned quickly and that was it for the rest of the two day trip. 🤣
17 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
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Scooter wrote:
Thank you for a great trip report. I have backpacker in over night from the North Fork of Indian Valley not to bad. Great area to explore

Definitely agree. Pepperwood Canyon is my favorite way in and of course there's that little 2000 ft bounce on your way out that's always a healthy pulse quickener smile
17 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 876
rockhopper wrote:
Looks like you covered a lot area on foot of that vastly in under explored place in our county. 45 miles. Wow! Good eye on the arrow points. The fact that the points were not made of the preferred obsidian means that most likely Lake Cahuilla was full thus covering the locals preferred obsidian source. Good point on the ranchers / miners building atop of older habitations. I've noticed that too.

Really like that area since it's so desolate and peaceful. That's a good observation about the alternative materials when Obsidian Butte was under water. Don't know if the obsidian hydration techniques are accurate enough to determine if all the obsidian artifacts around here dated to periods when the butte was exposed or whether it's already been looked at. Did find one obsidian point but pretty beat up.
17 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 876
Rocko1 wrote:
Wow! Some fantastic finds. I would assume the spring would have some dampness/trickle with the weather we have had.

Would be nice to find at least seasonal flow. The vegetation and organic layer is so dense at this location I'm not sure a small amount of flow would be visible but who knows and maybe it's worth another visit.
17 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

Scooter
Scooter
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Thank you for a great trip report. I have backpacker in over night from the North Fork of Indian Valley not to bad. Great area to explore
17 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 520
Looks like you covered a lot area on foot of that vastly in under explored place in our county. 45 miles. Wow! Good eye on the arrow points. The fact that the points were not made of the preferred obsidian means that most likely Lake Cahuilla was full thus covering the locals preferred obsidian source. Good point on the ranchers / miners building atop of older habitations. I've noticed that too.
17 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 277
Wow! Some fantastic finds. I would assume the spring would have some dampness/trickle with the weather we have had.
17 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
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Haven't been in Canebrake Valley for a while but wasting time on GE one morning, I spotted what appeared to be a spring exploited by ranchers that I've never noticed before. That led to three Saturdays and about 45 miles wandering around, twice starting at North Fork Indian Valley and once accompanied with Daren from Mile Marker 41. Checked out an occupation site and found a few projectile points. Not sure if these broke during production or returned inside the prey after a successful hunt. Nice broken Cottonwood point:

IMG_3047 by tomteske, on Flickr

Equally nice Desert Side Notch point. Supposedly if it has a basal notch it's a Sierra Side Notch:

IMG_3058 by tomteske, on Flickr

Cremated bone:

IMG_3045 by tomteske, on Flickr


Crawling out of a rock shelter was surprised to find this striped Desert Side Notch:

IMG_3108 by tomteske, on Flickr

Further up valley came across these straps and ?harness. Immediately suspected it was from the parachute or ejection seat of the downed T-33 near Agua Caliente:

IMG_3227 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_3230 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_3236 by tomteske, on Flickr

French INOX carabiner:

IMG_3238 by tomteske, on Flickr

But if you compare the straps cut from the T-33 ejection seat Daren found a while back ( the other one was recovered), the straps look quite different so who knows. You guys know what this is??

Two Belts by tomteske, on Flickr

Daren showed me an old ranching camp which also was a native occupation site:

IMG_3339 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_3348 by tomteske, on Flickr

And this historical artifact:

IMG_3341 by tomteske, on Flickr

Almost stepped on this guy:

IMG_3196 by tomteske, on Flickr

Skid marks:

IMG_3159 by tomteske, on Flickr

Beautiful scenery all around:

IMG_3356 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_3351 by tomteske, on Flickr

Daren checking out cattle bones:

IMG_3371 by tomteske, on Flickr

Actually, I think the main reason Daren went was to recover this old school radiosonde Unfortunately, we didn't have time to swing by and collect it. Daren says you might get a nice tour of the local NOAA site if you drop off a vintage model.

IMG_3276 by tomteske, on Flickr

Oh yeah, the spring! So, the now dry spring was an occupation site and then much later used for a cattle watering trough. A water trough was constructed on top of a boulder that contained multiple morteros and still has pottery next to it. A modern round trough was apparently added later. You can see piping heading up to a green spot above. Never seen anything like it:

IMG_3250 by tomteske, on Flickr

Morteros inside the trough:

IMG_3255 by tomteske, on Flickr

Lots of dried grass below the now dry spring:

IMG_3269 by tomteske, on Flickr

Heading home. Enjoy! Tom

IMG_3294 by tomteske, on Flickr
edited by tommy750 on 3/17/2020
20 days ago
Topic:
Imperial Valley Desert Museum

Scooter
Scooter
Posts: 58
It is amazing !! The local native American artifacts are very impressive. I support them financially and was surprised to find they are open all year. They are a cool zone for local residents.
20 days ago
Topic:
Imperial Valley Desert Museum

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 520
Thanks for the heads up. The Imperial Valley desert museum has been on my list for a long time.
21 days ago
Topic:
Imperial Valley Desert Museum

Scooter
Scooter
Posts: 58
Because of the Corona Virus the day has been moved to Saturday May 23rd. I would Check their website before going on May 23rd.
22 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 277
ziphius wrote:
Great trip report and photos! The red berries are desert mistletoe. The black birds with the pointy crest (Phainopepla) eat them and poop the seeds onto new branches, thus helping them spread.



Awesome! Thanks for the info. I have never seen these before. I spotted the red from on the ridge and thought 'this doesn't belong here'.
23 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 808
Great trip report and photos! The red berries are desert mistletoe. The black birds with the pointy crest (Phainopepla) eat them and poop the seeds onto new branches, thus helping them spread.
23 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Scooter
Scooter
Posts: 58
Cool pictures I would like to camp at the top inside those huge boulders sometime.
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

tommy750
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Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Nice TR Rocko1. Daren and I were down the mountain from you in Canebrake on Saturday and I was complaining about the wind that night in June Wash---in front of the propane fire pit. Guess you had way more type 2 fun than we did smile Great pics especially your 4th and 5th ones.

I have a Zpacks Altaplex (discontinued) and really like it (especially the 1.5 lb weight) but it does get pretty noisy in the wind even with all ten guylines as taut as I can make them.



Nice. Things starting to bloom in June? I saw a couple of fires on the west slope of Whale and wondered if anyone here was out camping. I wish I had a gauge to tell the true wind speed.

They just re-released the Altaplex a month or so ago. Looks like a great tent. I had to put a sort of knot behind the Lineloc to stop it from slipping through the night. Do you significant pressure changes inside your tent during wind? It was enough to rock us back and fourth like mini-sonic booms.


Definitely starting to bloom in Canebrake. The altaplex is back! And different colors too. Thanks for the updated info. Not sure about the sonic boom sensation but mainly noisy flapping of the dyneema in the wind. Now, I always bring earplugs when doing an overnight. Good for the wind and your snoring hiking buddies. I bought a Kestrel weather station a while back and have used it on occasion while backpacking. Never bothered to set it up outside my pack for accurate temperature tracking and haven't used it as much as I'd hoped. Still a nice unit that syncs with your phone.
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 277
Brian wrote:
I was camping in the Carrizo Creek area near Canyon Sin Nombre Saturday night. There was some wind in the evening but it stopped about 8PM. Seems like it was a popular weekend to go to the desert. Lots of cars at all the trailheads (but thankfully not where I was).



I had thought about that area also. Lots of cool canyons. I thought the wind would die down, no dice it only picked up steam up there. upset
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Brian
Brian
Posts: 16
I was camping in the Carrizo Creek area near Canyon Sin Nombre Saturday night. There was some wind in the evening but it stopped about 8PM. Seems like it was a popular weekend to go to the desert. Lots of cars at all the trailheads (but thankfully not where I was).
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Rocko1
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rockhopper wrote:
I like your alternate route up Granite Mtn. The winds really whip up there. We got turned back by blowing snow one time. I like the Redman "gliff".



It can be rough! There really are no good sheltered spots unless you bivy camp and get under some boulders near the top.
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

rockhopper
rockhopper
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I like your alternate route up Granite Mtn. The winds really whip up there. We got turned back by blowing snow one time. I like the Redman "gliff".
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Britain
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Posts: 456
The burned area from a fire a while back found a radio from the firefighters. It was toasted.
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 277
tommy750 wrote:
Nice TR Rocko1. Daren and I were down the mountain from you in Canebrake on Saturday and I was complaining about the wind that night in June Wash---in front of the propane fire pit. Guess you had way more type 2 fun than we did smile Great pics especially your 4th and 5th ones.

I have a Zpacks Altaplex (discontinued) and really like it (especially the 1.5 lb weight) but it does get pretty noisy in the wind even with all ten guylines as taut as I can make them.



Nice. Things starting to bloom in June? I saw a couple of fires on the west slope of Whale and wondered if anyone here was out camping. I wish I had a gauge to tell the true wind speed.

They just re-released the Altaplex a month or so ago. Looks like a great tent. I had to put a sort of knot behind the Lineloc to stop it from slipping through the night. Do you significant pressure changes inside your tent during wind? It was enough to rock us back and fourth like mini-sonic booms.
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 277
Britain wrote:
Cactus field is in a semi level area. There's a dig just before it. Nothing but up afterwards. Nice pics!
edited by Britain on 3/10/2020



Yes, we looked at the pit on the way out and joked if it didn't have a large cactus growing in the middle of it we could have set up the tent in it.
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Britain
Britain
Posts: 456
Cactus field is in a semi level area. There's a dig just before it. Nothing but up afterwards. Nice pics!
edited by Britain on 3/10/2020
24 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 876
Nice TR Rocko1. Daren and I were down the mountain from you in Canebrake on Saturday and I was complaining about the wind that night in June Wash---in front of the propane fire pit. Guess you had way more type 2 fun than we did smile Great pics especially your 4th and 5th ones.

I have a Zpacks Altaplex (discontinued) and really like it (especially the 1.5 lb weight) but it does get pretty noisy in the wind even with all ten guylines as taut as I can make them.
25 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

Rocko1
Rocko1
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Decided to do a quick overnight trip on Granite Mountain, south west side. Was pretty windy when we started at 1:30pm, it only got worse. Goal was to get to the peak and backtrack and find a decent spot on the ridge. Putzing around we ran out of time and had to setup short. The wind really picked up around 6pm and only got worse. It really put the tent to test. I snapped a guy line and had to readjust through out the night. I think we slept for 20 minutes total. smile Wad type 2 fun for sure. Got to 35F. Woke up early in the middle of a cloud.

A few pics from the trip.





Calm before the storm. First time using the Zpacks Duplex in any real weather. Tent held up, guy lines slipped quite a bit. We stayed dry though. Not the best tent for high winds due to the design.


Next morning


As I said previously, going up this route I have seen more cactus than anywhere in the park. My favorite section.


Interesting plant with reddish berries. Parasitic?



Rodriquez Canyon


Album with a few more pics.
https://imgur.com/a/UWzYO6q
edited by Rocko1 on 3/9/2020
26 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Photography
Not able to make it out to Borrego recently so I went through some old pictures and tried some new things.

How many planes fly over the Santa Rosa range at night? I just left the camera on a tripod and intervalometer while I slept. The original intent was to stack the images into a single star trail image. Not enough moonlight light for the foreground so I was about to scrap the pictures. It did make an interesting unintended time lapse video. I'll probably try more intentional time lapse videos in the future:


New edit of star trails on a bright moonlit night with most plane trails edited out:


Road through a wash:




I recently noticed that I keep accidentally breaking the links to pictures in the older posts. Most will likely go unfixed.
edited by Buford on 3/8/2020
27 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Photography
deborah wrote:
Thanks for sharing. These are great! What is the plant with the white flowers?


Desert Lily.

No recent pictures here, just more pictures from previous trips.

A longer 13s exposure from the same day as other images posted:


Another Quail shot at 4000 ISO:


From earlier MLK morning a 30s exposure before the sunrise really lit up:
28 days ago
Topic:
Imperial Valley Desert Museum

Scooter
Scooter
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I don't know give the museum a call
28 days ago
Topic:
Whale Peak overnight

deborah
deborah
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deborah
deborah
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Topic: Whale Peak overnight
Nice trip report and pics! Sounds like a great trip. I haven't been up Whale Peak yet, but I really love those boulders near Smuggler Canyon. They're a lot of fun.
28 days ago
Topic:
Photography

deborah
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deborah
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Topic: Photography
Thanks for sharing. These are great! What is the plant with the white flowers?
28 days ago
Topic:
Imperial Valley Desert Museum

rockhopper
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Will they have the Childers artifacts on display? I saw on Cable channel they pulled out over a Hundred file boxes that had been in storage for 40 years of his life times work exploring the desert. Personal notes, diaries, maps and loads of information on the history of the Coachella valley.
edited by rockhopper on 3/6/2020
28 days ago
Topic:
Butler Canyon

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Butler Canyon
The hand cart. I knew a old prospector that used to sell Gold nuggets at a County fair. He used a hand cart like that to pack in tools and even a mini dredge. He was working in the San Bernardino National Forests. Butler is right on the San Jacinto fault. That are has the highest seismic activity in the entire state. Some amazing geology out there. It's been too long. Need to get out there again.
28 days ago
Topic:
Butler Canyon

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Butler Canyon
joanelainemarshall wrote:
Were were just there. Here's our pics. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cqE4nKmrVE9BpV46A

I can't figure out how to embed a photo here...

Joan


Love the Horned Toad picture. Such fantastic camoflauge. Granite via Cool Canyon is a great hike. Thanks for sharing.
28 days ago
Topic:
Can anyone ID this location?

Rocko1
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What do you think about this? Looks like Fish Creek Mtn high point to me.

29 days ago
Topic:
Butler Canyon

dsefcik
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Topic: Butler Canyon
joanelainemarshall wrote:
We didn't go out to Bow Willow. Started at the Mountain Palm Grove and hiked out to the Torote Bowl to see the elephant trees. Then, we hiked around the palm grove loop. 4 days of hiking. We climbed Granite Peak via Cool Canyon also.
Joan

I guess I just kinda lump in Mtn Palm Springs area with Bow Willow but yes, what you described is what I had in mind. Was the honey comb photo from cool canyon?
29 days ago
Topic:
Can anyone ID this location?

dsefcik
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Topic: Can anyone ID this location?
I have played around with some areas I was thinking of but google earth doesn't agree....will need to check out a few more ideas.
29 days ago
Topic:
Butler Canyon

joanelainemarshall
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We didn't go out to Bow Willow. Started at the Mountain Palm Grove and hiked out to the Torote Bowl to see the elephant trees. Then, we hiked around the palm grove loop. 4 days of hiking. We climbed Granite Peak via Cool Canyon also.
Joan
29 days ago
Topic:
Butler Canyon

dsefcik
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Topic: Butler Canyon
joanelainemarshall wrote:
Were were just there. Here's our pics. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cqE4nKmrVE9BpV46A

I can't figure out how to embed a photo here...

Joan
Looks like you spent several days out there, lots of great pictures, thanks for sharing. Looks like you also hiked out around Bow Willow and the old indian trail to Torote?
29 days ago
Topic:
Butler Canyon

joanelainemarshall
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Were were just there. Here's our pics. https://photos.app.goo.gl/cqE4nKmrVE9BpV46A

I can't figure out how to embed a photo here...

Joan
29 days ago
Topic:
Butler Canyon

joanelainemarshall
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We were just there. BHS skeleton:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMvsh5metJiSBWNlikFtWyjdlWi7nifcpBEEPGNx0H00Iyk-0Wb0rT7BckIaIqKvw/photo/AF1QipMh4fAXctMArxbERHbUjFdtw4RUtFezpA4oCCRg?key=dl9CdU1Zbm0wYS00dTM5bGJTb2FMWjJYLXBydVhR
Cart:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMvsh5metJiSBWNlikFtWyjdlWi7nifcpBEEPGNx0H00Iyk-0Wb0rT7BckIaIqKvw/photo/AF1QipNpuum3DP0LJ366_VP57smSV3varof5HLnnCp0d?key=dl9CdU1Zbm0wYS00dTM5bGJTb2FMWjJYLXBydVhR
29 days ago
Topic:
Imperial Valley Desert Museum

Scooter
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And it is free
29 days ago
Topic:
Imperial Valley Desert Museum

Scooter
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On Saturday March 21st Imperial Valley Desert Museum is having Indigenous Cultures Day. The museum is in Ocotillo at: 11 Frontage Rd.
Native artists from across the region will be there from Calif, Arizona and Mexico. Traditional games, crafts, food vendors, native American speakers and bird songs.
So plan your weekend trip in southern Anza Borrego and stop by the event on the way out. Hours 10 to 4.
IVdesertmuseum.org 760 358 7016
3/3/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

tommy750
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
So this in on the internet: http://www.cvmshcp.org/pdf%20files/Water%20Sources-SRSJNM%20FINAL%20REPORT-UCR.pdf
Don't recall if anyone posted this here before but it has a pretty detailed description of water sources in the area including a couple other potential sources east of Horsethief. Have only been out to Agua Alta once in 2015 from Martinez and it looked pretty sketchy in November.
Looks like a nice trip.
3/3/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
Brian wrote:
I'm sure I'll do it again from the top end at some point, but next thing I want to try is visiting the Jack Miller cabin from the bottom end. I've never explored that area.


Time to go is right now after the up coming rains. I would like to do a 3rd trip there maybe next year. Good luck with your hike.





3/2/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

Brian
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Brian
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
I'm sure I'll do it again from the top end at some point, but next thing I want to try is visiting the Jack Miller cabin from the bottom end. I've never explored that area.
3/2/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

rockhopper
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
Brian wrote:
rockhopper, thanks for the info. I've camped by Horsethief creek, it's a nice area. I wish there was another water source further along the trail, but having reliable info on the state of the springs is half the battle.


Brian, Agree, Horse thief creek main trail crossing is a oasis and great water source. Our 3 man group loaded up with about 65 Lbs of water at the main crossing for a 3 day trek towards Agua Alta. Last mid April:
Elevation: 3400'



2 miles up the creek at elevation 4100'. I was really surprised to see water flowing up here as is usually dry unless mid Winter after the rains.

So we didn't need to tank up at the main crossing. ;-o
I'll probably skip Cactus spring trail this year so let us know if you go and post plenty of pics!
2/27/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

Brian
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Brian
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
rockhopper, thanks for the info. I've camped by Horsethief creek, it's a nice area. I wish there was another water source further along the trail, but having reliable info on the state of the springs is half the battle.
2/27/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
Brian wrote:
rockhopper, is the reliable water source Agua Alta? I did a day hike to Cactus Spring a few years ago and didn't find water there. I wasn't looking very hard though as I had plenty with me.


Brian, The Agua Alta water source is iffy at best even in the winter. The area used to be a seasonal native American village in the distant past but the deserts have moved 100 miles North in the past 100 years and the springs are drying up. I've always had to carry water to Agua Alta. The spring is in the green zone.





Cactus spring is another story. An old timer told me it was a old walk in well dug by the Native Americans and they would fill it in as "strangers" headed into the area. Also that it flowed and stopped flowing with the constant earth quake activity. I never bothered to dig it out as I was "on the go".
The only reliable source for water is Horse thief creek. It has always had good flowing water Winter / Spring / Fall in 30 years of hiking thru the area. Happy trails.
edited by rockhopper on 2/27/2020
2/27/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

Brian
Brian
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Brian
Brian
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
rockhopper, is the reliable water source Agua Alta? I did a day hike to Cactus Spring a few years ago and didn't find water there. I wasn't looking very hard though as I had plenty with me.
2/27/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
tekewin wrote:
Is the photo from the east or west? I remember the main trail being from the east and very, very, long. Haven't been out there yet but would like to.



tekewin . That is the North face of Martinez. The trail from the east starts off hwy 86 and is a long hike to hwy 74. Been both ways. I like going from the top down as you get to a reliable water source in a few hours to "tank up"
2/26/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

tekewin
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tekewin
tekewin
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
Is the photo from the east or west? I remember the main trail being from the east and very, very, long. Haven't been out there yet but would like to.
2/26/2020
Topic:
Can anyone ID this location?

tekewin
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Not sure, but I would guess that is Split Mountain in the background with the Vallecito Mountains continuing to the right.
2/26/2020
Topic:
Thimble from Cherry Canyon

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dsefcik wrote:
I think that is the way Gary and I went once but we never summited the last rock scramble...nice work!



Thanks! For me, Thimble is one of the icons in AB. It is one of the very few mountains I've climbed more than once. Looking forward to number 3.
2/25/2020
Topic:
Whale Peak overnight

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Whale Peak overnight
Nice TR, Ziphius. That's pretty much the same route I remember taking on my first trip up Whale about 15 yrs ago. Was straight out of Schad's book but back then it started in the Blair parking lot, crossed over Foot and Walker to that dirt road. The rest was the same but after crossing Little Blair, you climbed the saddle on that ridge between Little Blair and Blair.

Probably the most serene moment I can recall hiking in the desert was walking through that little meadow between the ascending canyon and Smuggler while it snowed, everything dusted with white and utter silence. Nice memories.
2/25/2020
Topic:
Whale Peak overnight

dsefcik
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Topic: Whale Peak overnight
Buford wrote:
For all the Bobcat signs around it's amazing how little of them are actually seen.

They are around..








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2/25/2020
Topic:
Whale Peak overnight

dsefcik
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Topic: Whale Peak overnight
Whale Peak is always nice (except in the snow). The Smugglers side can be tough.

Here is another route for those thinking of something different

http://anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/forum/topic155-whale-peak--inner-pasture--goat-cyn-trestle.aspx

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2/25/2020
Topic:
Thimble from Cherry Canyon

dsefcik
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Topic: Thimble from Cherry Canyon
I think that is the way Gary and I went once but we never summited the last rock scramble...nice work!
2/25/2020
Topic:
Photography

dsefcik
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Topic: Photography
Buford, very nice recent additions.
2/25/2020
Topic:
Can anyone ID this location?

Rocko1
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This is an old picture of my dad and brother from the late 70's. I was told this was somewhere in AB. Do any of the hills look familiar?


edited by Rocko1 on 2/25/2020
2/24/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
Rocko1 wrote:
I have never hiked out here. Any recommendations?


Top picture is Martinez mtn. with little pinyon flat in the fore ground, home of the "Cactus Spring Trail". Highly recommended. Continual use for the past several thousand years. One of the few "Long trails" still in existence. Worn chest high (deep) in places. The whole area is unlimited hiking and exploring. I try to make it out there every other year.
cheers
2/24/2020
Topic:
Photography

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Photography
A couple new ones:




2/24/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

Rocko1
Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
I have never hiked out here. Any recommendations?
2/22/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
Nice view rockhopper!
2/22/2020
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Martinez Mtn. Snow
Mid February I took a quick trip out to the old Hacienda hot springs in Desert hot springs. Hit the storm on our return up Hwy 74. Drove by the trail head. Reminder to hike it again!

Random picture from local hike near our place.



Cheers.
2/19/2020
Topic:
Photography

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Photography
More images. I'll just keep dumping photos from the park here.

Same ram and spot as a prior image posted, slightly different pose:



Another shot of the ramp on a hazier day than others posted:



I've been fascinated by how the Desert Trumpet looks at first light, maybe it is just me:
2/18/2020
Topic:
Photography

Scooter
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Scooter
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Topic: Photography
Beautiful unbelievable photos thank you for Sharing.
2/18/2020
Topic:
Thimble from Cherry Canyon

ziphius
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I want to own one of the sketchy houses in that area. wink
2/18/2020
Topic:
Thimble from Cherry Canyon

Rocko1
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tekewin wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice boulder climbing. I like your Iron Man hiking gloves. Cheers.



When my wife and I did Half Dome cables in 2017, I bought a 12-pack of these rubber palmed gloves for about $8. This is the 7th pair. I like to use them on rougher rock. not that Thimble is terrible.



I use similar gloves when there is scrambling involved. I cut the thumb out of the right hand so I can use my phone. Great gloves, light and durable.
2/17/2020
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Photography
deborah wrote:
Maybe a type of Threadplant? These are so cool. I've seen a lot of them in the hills just to the north of Clark Lake.


dsefcik wrote:
I know this little itty bitty plant but can't find the name for it!

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edited by dsefcik on 2/17/2020




Found it online. "Desert Trumpet" is the common name.

One more new picture:
2/17/2020
Topic:
Photography

deborah
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deborah
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Topic: Photography
Maybe a type of Threadplant? These are so cool. I've seen a lot of them in the hills just to the north of Clark Lake.


dsefcik wrote:
I know this little itty bitty plant but can't find the name for it!

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Buford wrote:


Interesting native, I think, plant:

edited by dsefcik on 2/17/2020
2/17/2020
Topic:
Thimble from Cherry Canyon

deborah
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Nice report! Thanks for the info. I've never been out there. The rocks look like fun!




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