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6 hours ago
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

ziphius
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Agree with you Buford, the smoke tree photo is tops. The rain hitting the desert had potential if the composition would have been wider. The black-throated sparrow reflection is nice, but overexposed and composition a bit off. [ Mr. Critical here... who has limited photography skills ] smile
16 hours ago
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

tommy750
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Buford wrote:
Here are last years winners.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmzXErx4

My favorites are the smoke tree and the rattler with the mosquito.

Most are really good. Others dunno



Agree, the snake/bug pic is nice. Looks like everyone else just discovered HDR, brush tool and the vibrance/saturation sliders. Don't understand the second place for a pic of illegal scraped off tent sites at Wind Caves. Maybe I just need a drink...
19 hours ago
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

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Buford wrote:

Mine are no where near as good as some previous entries.

I disagree....you have some crazy good photos.
22 hours ago
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

Buford
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I plan on entering a couple. Haven’t picked which ones yet. Still time to get more.

Mine are no where near as good as some previous entries.
22 hours ago
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

Buford
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I will pick up a copy sometime soon. Thanks guys.

The RB stuff is cool. I remember that UT article.
23 hours ago
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

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Topic: The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest
Deadline is Dec 1'st.

@Buford - Hope you got some in.
1 days ago
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

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Topic: Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019
Rocko1 wrote:


Very cool. Are any of the Poway/Rancho Bernardo images in your book?

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/pomerado-news/news/local-news/sd-cm-pow-news-rock-art-20181203-htmlstory.html

That is a good question...I don't think Don put any of the RB style rock art in the book but I am not certain. There are some amazing panels in the RB area for sure and a member at the SDRAA once gave a really fascinating lecture about them.
1 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Rocko1
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deborah wrote:
These routes look like fun. I did the Mason Valley Truck Trail from Blair Valley a few years ago. It was really pretty, only saw two vehicles despite it being on the weekend. I especially like the change in vegetation along the route. And it was a little drizzly that day too. Started off the day with a nice rainbow!

Whichever route you choose, looking forward to hearing how it goes!


I would love to have weather like that! I am hoping there won't be too many Jeeps. On the Alltrails app it says the gate is closed so that may help out. Will report back for sure.
1 days ago
Topic:
100 Year Anniversary of Carrizo Gorge

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Topic: 100 Year Anniversary of Carrizo Gorge
I won't be able to attend this but maybe someone on this forum will...

https://eccalifornian.com/railroad-hails-in-100-year-birthday/

1 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

deborah
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These routes look like fun. I did the Mason Valley Truck Trail from Blair Valley a few years ago. It was really pretty, only saw two vehicles despite it being on the weekend. I especially like the change in vegetation along the route. And it was a little drizzly that day too. Started off the day with a nice rainbow!

Whichever route you choose, looking forward to hearing how it goes!

2 days ago
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

Rocko1
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dliponi wrote:
Hi Everybody:
Some updates - we are getting into the Kumeyaay Nation - today a rock art tour with some Kumeyaay to a site on Private Land with permission. Beyond the Casinos - there is a lot of help needed on the Rezs. We get to present to their students and share with their elders about our work. On another topic, so far, we have book tour dates that are on the Book's website [larumorosarockart.com] for ABDNHA, PCAS, San Diego County Archaeological Society, Pacific Beach Public Library and many sites beyond San Diego including Coachella Valley and Arizona. In short, we are getting the word out on our rock art.
Thanks to everyone,
Don


Very cool. Are any of the Poway/Rancho Bernardo images in your book?

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/pomerado-news/news/local-news/sd-cm-pow-news-rock-art-20181203-htmlstory.html
3 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Rocko1
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tommy750 wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Will be getting some time off soon and I'd like to try this route https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8 as a day hike. The majority of it appears to be on BLM. Anyone see any issues with this and the possibility of it crossing private land?



Can't comment on the Cuyamaca route but your Mason Valley truck trail and Cottonwood routes look fine. You could take a bit of the old Lassater Hay road back to your vehicle by following a ridge with a faint road just as the MVTT turns toward the NW. Pull up the 1915-1945 historic topo layer to see it.



Thanks Tommy! That shaved 2.67 miles and 459ft of gain off the route. May have enough energy to attempt Granite from the backside now.




https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8
edited by Rocko1 on 11/12/2019
3 days ago
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

dliponi
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Hi Everybody:
Some updates - we are getting into the Kumeyaay Nation - today a rock art tour with some Kumeyaay to a site on Private Land with permission. Beyond the Casinos - there is a lot of help needed on the Rezs. We get to present to their students and share with their elders about our work. On another topic, so far, we have book tour dates that are on the Book's website [larumorosarockart.com] for ABDNHA, PCAS, San Diego County Archaeological Society, Pacific Beach Public Library and many sites beyond San Diego including Coachella Valley and Arizona. In short, we are getting the word out on our rock art.
Thanks to everyone,
Don
3 days ago
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

tommy750
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Another great book, Don. The webmaster needs to update your ad on this site to Volume 2 since you sold out Volume 1.
3 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

tommy750
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Rocko1 wrote:
Will be getting some time off soon and I'd like to try this route https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8 as a day hike. The majority of it appears to be on BLM. Anyone see any issues with this and the possibility of it crossing private land?



Can't comment on the Cuyamaca route but your Mason Valley truck trail and Cottonwood routes look fine. You could take a bit of the old Lassater Hay road back to your vehicle by following a ridge with a faint road just as the MVTT turns toward the NW. Pull up the 1915-1945 historic topo layer to see it.
3 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

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Rocko1 wrote:
Scooter wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
I have been wanting to hike from Laguna to the desert floor and interested in the best route. Other than the PCT, has anyone tried Storm Canyon or have any other routes?


Rocko looks lime a great trip, two years ago did Schads route off the end of Monument Peak Rd down into the Potero Canyon. Spent the night at a spring on the desert floor. Next day hiked out and spent the night at Auga Caliente Springs campground. Dramatic views hiking down off the Lagunas. Good Luck
hiked the ridge East from the end of Monument Peak Rd. This is the same trip in Schads book. The hard part is the time to do the vehicle shuttle. Paid the $3 at Agua Caliente for safe parking.


Interesting. I don't see any trail coming off of that peak-just hiked that Saturday. Did you just follow the canyon or ridge?
3 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Rocko1
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Scooter wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
I have been wanting to hike from Laguna to the desert floor and interested in the best route. Other than the PCT, has anyone tried Storm Canyon or have any other routes?


Rocko looks lime a great trip, two years ago did Schads route off the end of Monument Peak Rd down into the Potero Canyon. Spent the night at a spring on the desert floor. Next day hiked out and spent the night at Auga Caliente Springs campground. Dramatic views hiking down off the Lagunas. Good Luck



Interesting. I don't see any trail coming off of that peak-just hiked that Saturday. Did you just follow the canyon or ridge?
4 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Scooter
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Rocko1 wrote:
I have been wanting to hike from Laguna to the desert floor and interested in the best route. Other than the PCT, has anyone tried Storm Canyon or have any other routes?


Rocko looks lime a great trip, two years ago did Schads route off the end of Monument Peak Rd down into the Potero Canyon. Spent the night at a spring on the desert floor. Next day hiked out and spent the night at Auga Caliente Springs campground. Dramatic views hiking down off the Lagunas. Good Luck
4 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Scooter
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Rocko1 wrote:
Will be getting some time off soon and I'd like to try this route https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8 as a day hike. The majority of it appears to be on BLM. Anyone see any issues with this and the possibility of it crossing private land?
4 days ago
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

Rocko1
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Will be getting some time off soon and I'd like to try this route https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8 as a day hike. The majority of it appears to be on BLM. Anyone see any issues with this and the possibility of it crossing private land?
7 days ago
Topic:
Grapevine Mountain and Bitter Creek

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Topic: Grapevine Mountain and Bitter Creek
When Gary and I recently went up Grapevine we saw a nice 4 point buck, a good sized doe and two tarantulas.
7 days ago
Topic:
Grapevine Mountain and Bitter Creek

deborah
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dsefcik wrote:
Definitely pretty washes up top and great views. Hopefully my rock stacking made the register a little easier to find...wink


It led me right to it. smile
7 days ago
Topic:
Grapevine Mountain and Bitter Creek

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Topic: Grapevine Mountain and Bitter Creek
Definitely pretty washes up top and great views. Hopefully my rock stacking made the register a little easier to find...wink
7 days ago
Topic:
Grapevine Mountain and Bitter Creek

deborah
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Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice. Did you ascent route follow the PCT part of the way?



I liked the idea of Grapevine Mountain from the PCT. I went back and did it last weekend. It's a fun hike, and short if you don't have much time. There are some really pretty washes above the trail. The views were still amazing. smile I saw some familiar names in the register...




edited by deborah on 11/7/2019
8 days ago
Topic:
Access to Pinyon Ridge (Mt. Wilson)

dsrt_dave
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Thank you both for the info. I did not even consider going down that road, this is very helpful. Cheers!
8 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

tekewin
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Damn! Jaw dropping. Thanks for these.
9 days ago
Topic:
Old Maps

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Topic: Old Maps
A much belated thanks Tommy. Blake was a amazing Man and Geologist.


I had some time to go thru some more maps which focus on our local area.


Here is a map from 1884 of San Diego county. You may recognize many names and some that don't exist anymore.
The "Mud Volcanoes" were of special interest. Also "Indian Village" is at the Borrego sink site where the Spanish noted the Natives were living.
Remote Coyote Village amongst others was also recorded so these explorers really went up almost every water shed.






This map is limited but shows some interesting things. Notice "Tia Juana" in on the US side of the border.


9 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

Rocko1
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dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
My brother got tired of the scratches as well and painted his entire Explorer in bed liner. Problem solved.


OMG...Desert Tan bed liner no less...I know what I am doing this 3 day weekend..!!!




That's the stuff. He used 10 cans for the Explorer.
9 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

rockhopper
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Buford, Those petroglyphs sure look like the "Star people" in many of the ancient legends. Great adventure.
9 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

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Topic: Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)
Again, stunning photos Buford, thanks for taking time to share, I know how much work it is.
9 days ago
Topic:
Access to Pinyon Ridge (Mt. Wilson)

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Topic: Access to Pinyon Ridge (Mt. Wilson)
Ditto Buford's comments...check out this map of where you would most likely be able to drive a passenger car:

https://caltopo.com/m/PACV
9 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

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Topic: Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley
Rocko1 wrote:
My brother got tired of the scratches as well and painted his entire Explorer in bed liner. Problem solved.


OMG...Desert Tan bed liner no less...I know what I am doing this 3 day weekend..!!!

9 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

Buford
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I'm glad people like the ones posted so far. I still have so many photos to go through. I will spam everyone with a few more below.

I did not make it to Canyonlands this year. Last year was Horseshoe Canyon and The Maze. The farthest North and East I went this year was Capitol Reef. I didn't get too close to the four corners. I'll be back to Borrego soon enough.


Flickr keeps crashing with 30000x8000 pixel panoramas that were stitched together.

I'll try and post some lower res ones here:








Alternate takes of some already posted plus some new ones:


























Almost perfect symmetry. Too bad I had to shoot at ISO 5000, some of the sheep shots will not blow up well.
9 days ago
Topic:
Access to Pinyon Ridge (Mt. Wilson)

Buford
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Depends on how much you want to drive on dirt. Just drive until you are no longer comfortable and turn around. You can always park at the Jasper Trail and Montezuma Grade junction and hike from there. You should be able to get a passenger car down the Jasper Trail, maybe even to Old Culp Valley Road. I was up there a couple times this summer and I don't think they got any thunderstorms since then to wash it out. It is possible a passenger car could be driven along Old Culp Valley Road to the trail head via Jasper. I would not drive Old Culp Valley Road from the bottom up in a passenger car.

I definitely would not take a passenger car down the Jasper Trail into Grapevine.
edited by Buford on 11/5/2019
10 days ago
Topic:
Access to Pinyon Ridge (Mt. Wilson)

dsrt_dave
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Hello,

I am thinking of doing a 1 night backpacking trip up the Pinyon Ridge trail, however I have a low clearance 2WD vehicle, so I was wondering where would be a good spot to start ? I do not mind hiking more miles to reach the trailhead, I just don't know where would be the best place to leave my car overnight. Any suggestions?
10 days ago
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

Rocko1
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deborah wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Here is the back of one of my old shirts from the race, it can give you some real miles along the way.


edited by dsefcik on 9/15/2019


That race looks awesome but brutal. I was hoping they had the gps track but I didn't see that on the website.


Found out my brother is moving out of state soon so this trip may have to be shelved for a bit.


I put a route for this run into CalTopo a little while ago. I haven't done the run myself, but I was curious. It looks like a beast. smile I based the route on the website description. Hopefully it's representative. I can't remember why I broke it up into sections. It was either for cut-off times, or maybe just playing around with fun day hikes.

Anyway, here's a link to map. I think I have it set to be visible, but let me know if you can't get to it.

https://caltopo.com/m/VLAV



That is awesome! Thank you.

Seems no matter how I slice it, I just can't get the mileage under 63 or so.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/5/2019
10 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

Rocko1
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My brother got tired of the scratches as well and painted his entire Explorer in bed liner. Problem solved.







If it wasn't for the transmission going out I would have bought it from him. Good desert rig.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/5/2019
10 days ago
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

Rocko1
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dsefcik wrote:
deborah wrote:

Anyway, here's a link to map. I think I have it set to be visible, but let me know if you can't get to it.

https://caltopo.com/m/VLAV


Your route is slightly different than the original...check out the wayback machine for the last one:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030603211938/http://www.lostboysultra.com/

Here is the course map


I always forget about the archive. Thanks.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/5/2019
10 days ago
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

rockhopper
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Kudos to you guys great work.
10 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

rockhopper
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Fantastic photos Buford! I would have guessed Canyon lands in one of the "Four Corners"
10 days ago
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

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Topic: Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019
Nice work on the new volume Don, congratulations...Thumbs Up
10 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

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Topic: Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)
Wow...stunning pics Buford...nicely done, I really enjoyed looking at these.
10 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

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Topic: On the way to Mile High Mountain
Mile High is still on my list....been around it may times but never actually to it...thanks for the TR.
10 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

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tommy750 wrote:

Excuse me but aren’t you the guy blowing me sh*t for the rocker panel microscratch on the Tundra you bought from me that I got while jammed up in Hueso wash??

Which microscratch you referring to..?

The passenger side one


or the drivers side??
10 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Ridge

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Rocko1 wrote:


I dig that setup! What is the bed length of the truck?

6.5' I believe...not quite as roomy as my old red dodge with the 8' bed and full size crewcab...wink
10 days ago
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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Topic: Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?
Rocko1 wrote:


That race looks awesome but brutal. I was hoping they had the gps track but I didn't see that on the website.


Found out my brother is moving out of state soon so this trip may have to be shelved for a bit.

Hope you get a chance to get back out there and do it.
10 days ago
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

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Topic: Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?
deborah wrote:

Anyway, here's a link to map. I think I have it set to be visible, but let me know if you can't get to it.

https://caltopo.com/m/VLAV


Your route is slightly different than the original...check out the wayback machine for the last one:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030603211938/http://www.lostboysultra.com/

Here is the course map
10 days ago
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

deborah
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Rocko1 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Here is the back of one of my old shirts from the race, it can give you some real miles along the way.


edited by dsefcik on 9/15/2019


That race looks awesome but brutal. I was hoping they had the gps track but I didn't see that on the website.


Found out my brother is moving out of state soon so this trip may have to be shelved for a bit.


I put a route for this run into CalTopo a little while ago. I haven't done the run myself, but I was curious. It looks like a beast. smile I based the route on the website description. Hopefully it's representative. I can't remember why I broke it up into sections. It was either for cut-off times, or maybe just playing around with fun day hikes.

Anyway, here's a link to map. I think I have it set to be visible, but let me know if you can't get to it.

https://caltopo.com/m/VLAV
10 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Ridge

rockhopper
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Topic: Pinyon Ridge
I like the 4" memory foam. I like Tommy's 8" memory foam even better!
10 days ago
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

rockhopper
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Rocko1 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Here is the back of one of my old shirts from the race, it can give you some real miles along the way.


edited by dsefcik on 9/15/2019


That race looks awesome but brutal. I was hoping they had the gps track but I didn't see that on the website.


Found out my brother is moving out of state soon so this trip may have to be shelved for a bit.




Right, That 50 miles lost boys run on your T-shirt looked insanely tough. World class athletes, please apply.

My condolences on your brother's move.
11 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Ridge

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dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Daren, Great photos. I like photo #6 the best. Something about b&w that makes it special. Also the last photo makes you wonder. I see a face in it too. Kudos to ranger Steve. Rest in peace. Hey, Car camping (Truck bed) is my preferred way to go for day hikes or combo day/ back packs. I now use a 4" foam pad. hehe. Nice trip.

btw. Glad to here your back is getting stronger.

When I purchased the truck from tommy750 he was kind enough to also include a nice 8" memory foam mattress which I had to cut down to 4" and make a little setup from scrap wood from work.

(note 25 liter SquadBak)




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edited by dsefcik on 10/3/2019



I dig that setup! What is the bed length of the truck?
11 days ago
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

Rocko1
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dsefcik wrote:
Here is the back of one of my old shirts from the race, it can give you some real miles along the way.


edited by dsefcik on 9/15/2019


That race looks awesome but brutal. I was hoping they had the gps track but I didn't see that on the website.


Found out my brother is moving out of state soon so this trip may have to be shelved for a bit.
13 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

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dsefcik wrote:
Buford wrote:
Most SUVs and trucks should be able to get to the Butler/Rockhouse junction. The final 3 miles to the end of Rockhouse Truck Trail can be a mess. It depends on how bad the monsoons were, how armored your vehicle is, or how tolerant you are of body damage.


Very tolerant....this was from back in 2013, just didn't see that boulder...



Happened to us too. Did the exact same thing back in the 1970's. ( Sorry no pics.) We were climbing up a drainage in the Panamints and slid down a slick rock really did some ugly body art to my friends rig. We should have parked it long before and hiked in but we went onward and failed! .Your desert tattoo makes for nice conversation.
cheers
14 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

tommy750
tommy750
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dsefcik wrote:
Buford wrote:
Most SUVs and trucks should be able to get to the Butler/Rockhouse junction. The final 3 miles to the end of Rockhouse Truck Trail can be a mess. It depends on how bad the monsoons were, how armored your vehicle is, or how tolerant you are of body damage.


Very tolerant....this was from back in 2013, just didn't see that boulder...


Excuse me but aren’t you the guy blowing me sh*t for the rocker panel microscratch on the Tundra you bought from me that I got while jammed up in Hueso wash??
14 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

deborah
deborah
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Yes, for me it seems like there is more of a use trail at the lower elevations just out of the canyon. And even when those fade out, it seems like the route is straightforward because I suppose there aren't many options to choose from on the ascent. The terrain kind of funnels you toward some fun land bridges that connect the hills. I especially like the variation in the rock - there must be just about ever color out there.

On the descent when I was almost back into the canyon I missed my "turn-off" onto the ridge that I climbed up. It was easy enough to correct though. I had to laugh, I did the exact same thing the first time I was out there. smile
14 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

Buford
Buford
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No trails to Mile High. Some game and use trails depending on route. I would not approach Mile High from Villager or Rattlesnake saddle. It is a sandhill on that side. Going down from Mile High to Rattlesnake is fine, wouldn’t want to go up it.
15 days ago
Topic:
CalTopo is stepping up their game

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 159
Thanks. I DL the app for IOS and it wasn't as intuitive as I had hoped. Lots of blank map area and drawing a line is difficult. I am sure things will improve as it's just a beta. For now Gaia has been my staple for all hiking routes.
15 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 159
dsefcik wrote:
Buford wrote:
Most SUVs and trucks should be able to get to the Butler/Rockhouse junction. The final 3 miles to the end of Rockhouse Truck Trail can be a mess. It depends on how bad the monsoons were, how armored your vehicle is, or how tolerant you are of body damage.


Very tolerant....this was from back in 2013, just didn't see that boulder...



Ouch. I nice amount of desert pin stripping also I see.
15 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 159
Very nice! I looked at this peak when I hiked Villager, without knowing what it was and thought it would be great to hike. Is there any kind trail or is it just 'get to the top'?
17 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

Buford
Buford
Posts: 222
No pictures are from Coyote Buttes or any area that requires permits. Some of the pictures are from an area a few miles east of the permitted areas.
17 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

tommy750
tommy750
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Buford wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Looks like a nice trip. Assuming Utah Arizona? Great pics. Thanks.



Correct, Arizona and Utah. Nothing too far off the beaten path.

Some national parks, some blm land, some GSE, some NSF lands.



Are some of the pics from part of The Wave??
17 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

Buford
Buford
Posts: 222
tommy750 wrote:
Looks like a nice trip. Assuming Utah Arizona? Great pics. Thanks.



Correct, Arizona and Utah. Nothing too far off the beaten path.

Some national parks, some blm land, some GSE, some NSF lands.
17 days ago
Topic:
CalTopo is stepping up their game

tommy750
tommy750
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Downloaded the caltopo app recently. Since it's beta, you need to download TestFlight from the App Store (I have an iPhone) and then get a link from caltopo to their app. Used it yesterday on a bike ride and it worked well enough. You can access your entire map collection and then hit start to begin tracking. Looked at the new motor vehicle MVUM layer Daren mentioned but didn't seen to add much useful and a lot of the roads are labelled "unspecified" or "limited access." ABDSP is pretty much completely blacked out of this layer. The app doesn't have a GE satellite layer but if you pull up one of your saved maps it will give you what looks to be GE if it's your saved base layer on your map. Props to Daren for introducing me to caltopo. It's a great tool to have.

Here's a screen grab from a Grand Canyon hike last year:

app3 by tomteske, on Flickr

A list of some of my saved maps easily accessed with the app:

app2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Starting your track:

app1 by tomteske, on Flickr
17 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 839
Looks like a nice trip. Assuming Utah Arizona? Great pics. Thanks.
17 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

deborah
deborah
Posts: 28
Wow, these are beautiful! Great pictures of the sheep. Love the cottonwoods, the rock formations, the trees against the night skies... Thanks for sharing!
17 days ago
Topic:
CalTopo is stepping up their game

deborah
deborah
Posts: 28
Yes, thanks for the info! CalTopo is a great tool. These new features are really cool.
17 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

Buford
Buford
Posts: 222
A couple more pics.

The rams may have slightly different horns, but they have the same rituals as our sheep:






The disappointment that today is not the day:





Other scenery pics in no particular order:
















19 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

Buford
Buford
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I like all deserts, not just Borrego. Some more. I have so many more I need to go through.

























So many gold colored cottonwood trees, too bad the Aspen were already done for the year:




Mad Max meets The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in color and b+w:



edited by Buford on 10/27/2019
19 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

ziphius
ziphius
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Nice!
19 days ago
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

Buford
Buford
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Got some cool sheep photos last week by accident. Saw sheep in two different places. One time in really low light so the shots are not great. Another time I hiked without my 600mm lens because I did not expect to see sheep. I was surprised by some but had to make do with a 135mm lens. Interesting how the ram horns grow in a different shape than our sheep in Borrego.

Posting low res pics here.















Also took some landscape photos on the trip. I'll post more later.







edited by Buford on 10/27/2019
19 days ago
Topic:
CalTopo is stepping up their game

Buford
Buford
Posts: 222
Could have used that last week. Didn't know that was now included. Awesome.
20 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 775
One thing about injuries and running.... the thing that least prepares us for running..... is running. If I don't hike regularly with some weight, my legs never get strong enough for sustained running and I get injured.
21 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

deborah
deborah
Posts: 28
tekewin wrote:
Great photos. Looks like you were near the top. Mile High is tough from any direction. Like Buford, I came from Rosa. I'll have to look up the Jerrry Schad route. I think there might be a way up from Rattlesnake Canyon. Good luck with your hammy. Seems like they take forever to heal.



Thanks tekewin! The route that I did was an out-and-back starting in Palo Verde Canyon, getting on the west ridge at the second "bend" in the canyon at around 1900' elevation. Then going up, up, up. Rattlesnake Canyon looks really interesting.

And yes, this hamstring issue did take a long time to heal. I'm still easing back into my running, but thankfully it seems to be doing well with hiking.
21 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

deborah
deborah
Posts: 28
Buford wrote:
Cool report and pics. There was a register earlier this year that was at least a couple years old.

Mile High is one of a few peaks I have repeated since I enjoyed it so much. Definitely one of the better ones. I’ve never done Schad’s route though. Both times I combined it with Pyramid, Rosa and Villager(once).


Thanks! I haven't been to Pyramid or Rosa yet. That looks like a fun loop. And combining those with Villager... I bet that was a really great trip.
21 days ago
Topic:
CalTopo is stepping up their game

tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 168
Thanks for the heads up. I love CalTopo and use it for planning almost every hike.
21 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 168
Great photos. Looks like you were near the top. Mile High is tough from any direction. Like Buford, I came from Rosa. I'll have to look up the Jerrry Schad route. I think there might be a way up from Rattlesnake Canyon. Good luck with your hammy. Seems like they take forever to heal.
21 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

Britain
Britain
Posts: 407
Rocker guards are needed here.
21 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

Buford
Buford
Posts: 222
Cool report and pics. There was a register earlier this year that was at least a couple years old.

Mile High is one of a few peaks I have repeated since I enjoyed it so much. Definitely one of the better ones. I’ve never done Schad’s route though. Both times I combined it with Pyramid, Rosa and Villager(once).
21 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

Buford
Buford
Posts: 222
dsefcik wrote:
Buford wrote:
Most SUVs and trucks should be able to get to the Butler/Rockhouse junction. The final 3 miles to the end of Rockhouse Truck Trail can be a mess. It depends on how bad the monsoons were, how armored your vehicle is, or how tolerant you are of body damage.


Very tolerant....this was from back in 2013, just didn't see that boulder...


Ouch. When I drove to the end in the dark last year, Gary and I didn’t see a big boulder straight in front of us because we were watching the sides to get through a squeeze. My skid plate found it just fine.
21 days ago
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

dliponi
dliponi
Posts: 5
I hope it will be alright to give notice here - no harm no foul intended. We have a new book out now, La Rumorosa Rock Art Along the Border Volume 2. We have 14 photographers and rock art researchers contributing more than 200 half, full and double page images including some regulars here like Daren S, Gary J, Tom T, Joel K, Randy R, Wade S, myself and some others. We have text from 8 local archaeologists including favorites like Don Laylander, Jerry Schaefer, Dennis Gallegos, Brian Williams, David Whitley and more. Most of this text sheds light on the last 10,000 years in the Colorado Desert. The book is the same size, but larger at 350 pages and 3# in weight. It is heavy polished paper. It is only 25$ and is for sale at the ABDNHA bookstore, IVDM, Desert Tower [you have to go there - it is amazing], the book's website [www.larumorosarockart.com], Amazon and eBay. If you did not get volume 1, I have 5 copies left I am selling on Amazon. If you want to buy bulk for some reason, contact me, and we will work out discounts. The book tour is shaping up and I am presenting some patterns in the rock art compatible with the trance models of David Lewis-Williams, David Whitley and Michael Winkelman. I am speaking at ABDNHA on 12/27/19. Because of the topic, it will probably sell out just like it did last time, so you should get your tickets. ABDNHA gets the money and they will probably schedule another presentation in the Spring? So far, there are dates in Rancho Mirage, Copper Canyon College and more to come. See Amazon for images as I could not attach files using the trick indicated.
Thank you,
Don Liponi
dliponi@yahoo.com
22 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

deborah
deborah
Posts: 28
Oh it's been a gradual progression over the last few months. That route isn't something I'd jump into right away. Goodness, those hills are no joke! smile
23 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 775
Nice photos. I haven't been up there, on my wish list. If Mile High is your idea of reintroducing your hamstring to reality, you are tougher than most. smile
23 days ago
Topic:
On the way to Mile High Mountain

deborah
deborah
Posts: 28
My hamstring injury seems like it's finally healing, so I decided to go test it out on Schad's Mile High Mountain route. It's been quite a while since I've been on that route. I almost forgot how fun it is on the way up, and how demanding on the descent. I went as far as the upper ridge line, when the Salton Sea comes into view. As I understand it the real summit is to the north. Someday I'll go and finish the route. But it was challenging enough as it was. I didn't feel like I missed out. smile













1 mylar balloon retrieved.
23 days ago
Topic:
CalTopo is stepping up their game

dsefcik
dsefcik
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dsefcik
dsefcik
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Topic: CalTopo is stepping up their game
Was just looking at the CalTopo Blog and they have several new cool features, 4WD road map layers for BLM and USFS lands, mobile app for Android and iOS. Check out the blog for more info about CalTopo. After using it for several years now it's one of those things you wonder how you made do without.



24 days ago
Topic:
Little Blair Valley Overnight

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 159
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:


Yes, it's a .67oz/cubic yard dyneema composite. It's a bit thicker than their standard dyneema as the camo is laminated on. It makes it less see through than the lighter .51/oz material. The moon still shines through pretty well though.



I am gonna have to get back to some sewing projects, Dyneema is cool but expensive. I did make some food storage bags for our Grand Canyon trip back in Nov. The material is supposed to be rodent resistant.



Very nice! Love the vintage sewing machine.

It is expensive but bags like that are very nice. I would throw the food inside a Opsak first too just to be safe. I have had good luck with those shielding the odors. I have heard the rodents at established sites in GC are really persistent.
edited by Rocko1 on 10/21/2019
25 days ago
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

Britain
Britain
Posts: 407
Ok I remember that post!
tommy750 wrote:
Britain wrote:
Love the film photos. Didn't you guys do oriflame up and over to cottonwood a ways back?


Gary and I did the Oriflame Cottonwood trip. Wish we would have had more time out in Cottonwood especially since there was lots of water.

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/forum/topic1279-oriflame-to-cottonwood-canyon--day-bp.aspx
25 days ago
Topic:
Little Blair Valley Overnight

dsefcik
dsefcik
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dsefcik
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Topic: Little Blair Valley Overnight
Rocko1 wrote:


Yes, it's a .67oz/cubic yard dyneema composite. It's a bit thicker than their standard dyneema as the camo is laminated on. It makes it less see through than the lighter .51/oz material. The moon still shines through pretty well though.



I am gonna have to get back to some sewing projects, Dyneema is cool but expensive. I did make some food storage bags for our Grand Canyon trip back in Nov. The material is supposed to be rodent resistant.

25 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

dsefcik
dsefcik
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dsefcik
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Topic: Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley
Buford wrote:
Most SUVs and trucks should be able to get to the Butler/Rockhouse junction. The final 3 miles to the end of Rockhouse Truck Trail can be a mess. It depends on how bad the monsoons were, how armored your vehicle is, or how tolerant you are of body damage.


Very tolerant....this was from back in 2013, just didn't see that boulder...
25 days ago
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

dsefcik
dsefcik
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dsefcik
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Topic: Earthquake & Mason Valley Days
Was just looking at my 2011 TR of Grapevine, the bathtub seems to have gotten a bit overgrown.

2011


2019
25 days ago
Topic:
Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP

dsefcik
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dsefcik
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Topic: Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP
dsefcik wrote:
The Butterfield store even has a register book for people to sign that hike that area, it's out front of the store.


No more register, new owners and it is gone.

Enjoyed re-reading this TR, great work Tom.
25 days ago
Topic:
Tom Kelly To Speak At Nonprofit Train Fundraiser

dsefcik
dsefcik
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Will it ever end?

http://www.coronadonewsca.com/news/coronado_island_news/radio-tv-legend-shotgun-tom-kelly-to-speak-at-nonprofit/article_b96b7632-f371-11e9-b523-f37186c55b32.html
25 days ago
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 839
Britain wrote:
Love the film photos. Didn't you guys do oriflame up and over to cottonwood a ways back?


Gary and I did the Oriflame Cottonwood trip. Wish we would have had more time out in Cottonwood especially since there was lots of water.

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/forum/topic1279-oriflame-to-cottonwood-canyon--day-bp.aspx
25 days ago
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

tommy750
tommy750
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Looks like a great set of hikes, Daren. Glad you could get out there.
25 days ago
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

deborah
deborah
Posts: 28
Goodness, these are beautiful. Great clouds in those black and white photos.

I'm glad the Grapevine Mtn register is still there. smile

Thanks for sharing!
25 days ago
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

Britain
Britain
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Love the film photos. Didn't you guys do oriflame up and over to cottonwood a ways back?
25 days ago
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

dsefcik
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Topic: Earthquake & Mason Valley Days
Took a few days off from work and did some day hiking with Gary. We hit up Pinyon Mtn and Grapevine Mtn VABM's. We also spent a day hiking around Cottonwood Canyon.

B/W photos are from an Olympus OM-4 with Rollie Retros 80s film developed in Rodinal.

View of Granite Mountain from Pinyon Mountain


Gary reading the Pinyon Mountain register


Looking towards Borrego Springs


Sunset at our campsite off Pinyon Mtn Road


Here is the GPS track for the hike


Grapevine Mtn VABM


GPS track for the Grapevine hike


Found this rattlesnake dead, only signs of trauma was a smashed head...recent. I would half speculate someone or something smashed his head and left him for dead....sad.


There are several dry falls going up the drainage we took, all passible with a little effort. Here is Gary on the last one near the top


The Grapevine Mtn register is still there, over to the right of Gary in the picture under some rocks


Bitter Creek Spring bathtub


Gary at the top


Cottonwood Canyon is an interesting place and worthy of a day of exploring. Purchase a day parking permit at the Butterfield store for $5 and you can park on their property and hike in.

Water Tanker wheel, spokes are made of wood


There are many old cattle troughs out in Cottonwood Cyn






Several beautiful cottonwood tree patches are in the canyon. They are very peaceful to sit under and just listen to the wind whip thru their leaves...hard to leave those cottonwood trees.


A couple of water tankers we found




An old stone flume in one of the drainages


This guy had an upset tummy


I spent an extra night out in the desert and camped out near the Shake VABM


View from the Shake VABM


The Shake resgister does not see a whole lot of visitors


Total Mylar Baloons this trip - 9




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27 days ago
Topic:
Grapevine Mtn /Bitter Creek Canyon

tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 168
Great hike! I went up a route very nearly the one you did in 2017, but you took an interesting way down. Looks steep on the map.

The honeycomb is impressive, but I wouldn't want to find one filled with bees.

You always seem to find very interesting stuff in the wild. (spelling edit)
edited by tekewin on 10/18/2019
28 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 159
deborah wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Great pics. What type of vehicle do you have? I want to do a trip up Rockhouse Canyon and would like to get as close as possible in my Ford Escape.



I have a Tacoma. The short distance that I went in a few weeks ago was bumpy for sure, but probably not surprising since I didn't bother to air down. smile I thought it was very manageable until I got to my stopping point. There were some medium-size boulders in the path I was following. I didn't spend much time looking for a way around.



Thanks. I hope one day to get a Tacoma. Really like those trucks.
28 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

deborah
deborah
Posts: 28
ziphius wrote:
Your butterfly is a Great Purple Hairstreak (Atlides halesus). I have never seen one in the wild. https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/59128-Atlides-halesus


Oh yes, that's it. Thank you! That's quite a name, too! smile
28 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 775
Your butterfly is a Great Purple Hairstreak (Atlides halesus). I have never seen one in the wild. https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/59128-Atlides-halesus




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