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5 hours ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 228
tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 228
Topic: Diablo BM
That's a fun hike. Great photos and stuff from the register. I remember lots of agave when you first leave the road.
19 days ago
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 531
Very interesting. The whole under water archaeological community will no doubt "bring up" new pieces to the puzzle of the history human occupation of our area. I always thought whole different civilizations came and went along the coast, the mountains and the desert. The oldest clues seem to be underwater up to miles off shore all along the San Diego county coast and up to 300 feet below the surface. I need a submarine. Sign me up!
20 days ago
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 913
rockhopper wrote:
Tommy. Book is on order. Looking forward to adding to the Library. On topic, Back in the 80's during my "Surfing Years" we would see scuba divers coming out of the ocean with stone tools and grinding metates from off shore. This was in the N. County near Encinitas. The divers could only go so deep so alot is still out there. 10,000 years ago the shore line was around 300 feet lower and up to miles out from the current shore line. At the Spindrift site in La Jolla the ocean bottom drops off quickly and the old shore line was only a few hundred yards out.

Here's an interesting article on La Jolla off shore archaeology. Fascinating stuff.
https://www.lajollalight.com/news/health-science/sd-scripps-center-marine-archaeology-20170803-story.html
21 days ago
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
rockhopper wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.



Back in the 1990's our company ( Foundation / Structural Engineering / Construction) worked on the bluff house to the left of the top of the red outline. We had to excavate with Archaeology reps on site . Neat info that the Tennis pond was a former lagoon marsh. Great forum. Always learning something new.



Interesting. We have to have archaeologist and native representative approve the dig and site.
21 days ago
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 531
Tommy. Book is on order. Looking forward to adding to the Library. On topic, Back in the 80's during my "Surfing Years" we would see scuba divers coming out of the ocean with stone tools and grinding metates from off shore. This was in the N. County near Encinitas. The divers could only go so deep so alot is still out there. 10,000 years ago the shore line was around 300 feet lower and up to miles out from the current shore line. At the Spindrift site in La Jolla the ocean bottom drops off quickly and the old shore line was only a few hundred yards out.
21 days ago
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 531
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.



Back in the 1990's our company ( Foundation / Structural Engineering / Construction) worked on the bluff house to the left of the top of the red outline. We had to excavate with Archaeology reps on site . Neat info that the Tennis pond was a former lagoon marsh. Great forum. Always learning something new.
28 days ago
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.
28 days ago
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 827
There is this sign on the Scripps Institution of Oceanography campus as well. https://images.app.goo.gl/fMmz5J5RrYaXcSUZA
edited by ziphius on 6/10/2020
28 days ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Topic: Diablo BM
tommy750 wrote:
Nice TR Rocko1. Have only been there once in 2014 but the register had stuff back to 1955. Think there were two register caches near the benchmark if I recall correctly.

Carl Whitefield (2018_09_25 07_05_23 UTC) by tomteske, on Flickr

1957 by tomteske, on Flickr



Fantastic! I only saw one red can with two small spiral logs(one starting in 1992 the other 2019) in a ziplock. I didn't look for another can to be honest.
29 days ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 913
tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 913
Topic: Diablo BM
Nice TR Rocko1. Have only been there once in 2014 but the register had stuff back to 1955. Think there were two register caches near the benchmark if I recall correctly.

Carl Whitefield (2018_09_25 07_05_23 UTC) by tomteske, on Flickr

1957 by tomteske, on Flickr
29 days ago
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 913
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Brian
Brian
Posts: 22
Brian
Brian
Posts: 22
Topic: Diablo BM
I've done several trips to Sandstone Canyon by way of June before I had a car that could get there the usual way. It was always fun to run into people in Jeeps who weren't expecting to see anyone without a vehicle and couldn't figure out how I got there. The route goes by the base of Diablo but I've never gone up to the summit. I should add it to my list.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Topic: Diablo BM
I'm at 'Sketchy"
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Topic: Diablo BM
Rocko1 wrote:
Britain wrote:
On my list for next year.

It's a good hike-great views. I did come down the southern spine that has some really narrow sections and it that was a bit sketchy with strong gusts. I then caught a drainage that connected to June wash. It's a nice area.



Seen the peak from the near end of Sandstone. Didnt realize there's a BM on it. Ill hit it from June since most of sandstone now has been blocked off.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Topic: Diablo BM
Britain wrote:
On my list for next year.

It's a good hike-great views. I did come down the southern spine that has some really narrow sections and it that was a bit sketchy with strong gusts. I then caught a drainage that connected to June wash. It's a nice area.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Topic: Diablo BM
On my list for next year.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Topic: Diablo BM
ziphius wrote:
Lizard is a desert iguana. Nice one. What is the status of the park open / closure?

Thank you.

What is open now?
Anza- Borrego Desert SP is open to the public for day-use activities only from sunrise to sunset. The park remains closed to camping (developed and primitive).
  • Backcountry Unpaved Roads for day-use activities that do not lead into Ocotillo Wells.
  • Hell Hole Day-use Area
  • Sunrise Trail Head Parking / Day-use Areas
  • Very limited parking is now available to the public.

What is currently closed at this park and throughout the State Park System?
At this park:
  • Camping (developed and primitive)
  • Backcountry Unpaved Roads that lead into Ocotillo Wells
  • Open Dispersed Backcountry Camping
  • Peg Leg Primitive Camping Area
  • Culp Valley Primitive Camping Area
  • Coyote Canyon Above 3rd Crossing
  • North Coyote Canyon / Turkey Track Access Gate
  • Borrego Palm Canyon Day-use and Campground
  • Tamarisk Grove Campground Campgrounds
  • Arroyo Salado Primitive Camp
  • Blair Valley Primitive Camp
  • Yaqui Pass Primitive Camp
  • Yaqui Well Primitive Camp
  • Bow Willow Primitive Camp
  • Mt. Palm Springs Primitive Camp
  • Fish Creek Primitive Camp
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.
Statewide:
  • Campgrounds.
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 827
ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 827
Topic: Diablo BM
Lizard is a desert iguana. Nice one. What is the status of the park open / closure?
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Topic: Diablo BM
Took my first trip out on Sunday to AB since it closed. Hiked to Diablo benchmark via June wash. It was clear and very windy with some really strong gusts at the top. 75F when I got back to the car at 10:45am. I only saw 5 cars total in the park-all on the road-no people except the clerk at the Stagecoach store. No one at any trail head parking lots I passed. Was a bit strange. Felt good to be back.





Most of the flowers were gone at this point.


From a small bump going up June Wash towards Diablo.


At the top




Video-sorry for the shakiness. Trying 4k60fps format which apparently doesn't have good stabilization on my phone.

https://i.imgur.com/OOQkFcu.mp4

One of the better registers I have seen. Went back to 1992 and had someone sign about every 2-5 months.



Saw this lizard on the way back. Anyone know what kind?

https://i.imgur.com/38CzaKm.mp4

Trip was 10 miles and 1,365ft gain. All cross country-except short section along wash road.
No trash seen-20+ jackrabbits though.

Album- https://imgur.com/a/Kegm8qK

edited by Rocko1 on 6/8/2020
6/8/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
rockhopper wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice finds. Neat adventure Tommy! Were the camping circles on the benches above the ancient lake shore line? The multiple lake fills over the past 12,000 years ( At least 8 full fills but probably many more) supported large populations at various periods of lake fills. Lake fills may have lasted 50 years or more with constant inflows from the Colorado river. Population peak may have reached 10,000 around the lake. Those stone tools could be 1000 years old or 10,000 years old.

Was exploring around Ocotillo and SW of the Coyote Mts. Lots of reported Archaic sites in that area. The Park spent a lot of time last year excavating such a site near Carrizo. The history of early man in this area is quite fascinating. The earliest first man site in San Diego is probably beneath the fancy homes south of the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club. Just finished reading this book on the subject and would definitely recommend it for those interested in the topic: https://sunbeltpublications.com/shop/first-people/



Thanks for the publication heads up. Will add this to my library. Looks like a collaboration of the latest information in our So Cal. area.

Quick relative story. Having been in the construction industry for nearing 40 years. I have seen a lot of excavations. Our company spent around 10 years doing remodels and new construction in the La Jolla / Mt. Soladad and Spindrift areas. The city required archaeological and seismic study trenches cut on the properties for inspection. Every excavation in the Spindrift area was full of shell middens, fire hearths and stone tools going back thousands of years. Many were deep.

Elsewhere up the coast I found a shell midden, mammal bones with charcoal 20 feet deep!

"Quite fascinating" is a great discription.
edited by rockhopper on 6/8/2020
edited by rockhopper on 6/8/2020




Interesting! Our company is doing a remodel in La Jolla and we are dealing this now. The footings are only 12-24" deep maybe a total of 100LF but the archaeologist is still required to inspect.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 531
tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice finds. Neat adventure Tommy! Were the camping circles on the benches above the ancient lake shore line? The multiple lake fills over the past 12,000 years ( At least 8 full fills but probably many more) supported large populations at various periods of lake fills. Lake fills may have lasted 50 years or more with constant inflows from the Colorado river. Population peak may have reached 10,000 around the lake. Those stone tools could be 1000 years old or 10,000 years old.

Was exploring around Ocotillo and SW of the Coyote Mts. Lots of reported Archaic sites in that area. The Park spent a lot of time last year excavating such a site near Carrizo. The history of early man in this area is quite fascinating. The earliest first man site in San Diego is probably beneath the fancy homes south of the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club. Just finished reading this book on the subject and would definitely recommend it for those interested in the topic: https://sunbeltpublications.com/shop/first-people/



Thanks for the publication heads up. Will add this to my library. Looks like a collaboration of the latest information in our So Cal. area.

Quick relative story. Having been in the construction industry for nearing 40 years. I have seen a lot of excavations. Our company spent around 10 years doing remodels and new construction in the La Jolla / Mt. Soladad and Spindrift areas. The city required archaeological and seismic study trenches cut on the properties for inspection. Every excavation in the Spindrift area was full of shell middens, fire hearths and stone tools going back thousands of years. Many were deep.

Elsewhere up the coast I found a shell midden, mammal bones with charcoal 20 feet deep!

"Quite fascinating" is a great discription.
edited by rockhopper on 6/8/2020
edited by rockhopper on 6/8/2020
6/6/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 827
Tommy, I don't get to pilot the UAVs, I'm one of the "whale finders" that helps direct the UAV towards the whales. It's kind of like sheep-counting, wait around for hours while nothing happens, and then something happens.


tommy750 wrote:
So Ziphius you get paid to do this stuff?? Dang. Guess some of us got those good guidance couselers

edited by ziphius on 6/6/2020
edited by ziphius on 6/6/2020
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
DJi makes some good drones. I was thinking about doing the same as Tommy. Just to see what something looks like from above.
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 913
ziphius wrote:


Gray whales from 150 ft altitude. Custom hexacopter with Sony A7R mirrorless body.

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.

You have any pics you could post from your work with that setup?? Would be very interesting to see.

edited by ziphius on 6/5/2020

Gray whales from 150 ft altitude. Custom hexacopter with Sony A7R mirrorless body.

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.

You have any pics you could post from your work with that setup?? Would be very interesting to see.

edited by ziphius on 6/5/2020
So Ziphius you get paid to do this stuff?? Dang. Guess some of us got those good guidance couselers smile
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 827


Gray whales from 150 ft altitude. Custom hexacopter with Sony A7R mirrorless body.

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.

You have any pics you could post from your work with that setup?? Would be very interesting to see.

edited by ziphius on 6/5/2020
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
tommy750 wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Sound like everyone is in agreement drones are awesome and terrible depending on how they're used. Ziphius, nice article on seal counting. My cheap drone camera now has more MP than the one in your article which is from 2011. Your Sony mirrorless setup is probably a completely different story! My little drone in intentionally 249 grams, one less than required for an FAA certificate which is .55 to 55lbs.

What interests me the most is high resolution panoramas and I think our area has a lot of possibilities.


What is your drones MP count Tommy? Some high res panos would be pretty fantastic.

Mine is 12.7MP and not bad for the price. Definitely could stitch a few pics together in Photoshop for a decent pano.



Thanks. It does give a great perspective.
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 913
ziphius wrote:
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.

You have any pics you could post from your work with that setup?? Would be very interesting to see.
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 913
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Sound like everyone is in agreement drones are awesome and terrible depending on how they're used. Ziphius, nice article on seal counting. My cheap drone camera now has more MP than the one in your article which is from 2011. Your Sony mirrorless setup is probably a completely different story! My little drone in intentionally 249 grams, one less than required for an FAA certificate which is .55 to 55lbs.

What interests me the most is high resolution panoramas and I think our area has a lot of possibilities.


What is your drones MP count Tommy? Some high res panos would be pretty fantastic.

Mine is 12.7MP and not bad for the price. Definitely could stitch a few pics together in Photoshop for a decent pano.
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 913
rockhopper wrote:
Nice finds. Neat adventure Tommy! Were the camping circles on the benches above the ancient lake shore line? The multiple lake fills over the past 12,000 years ( At least 8 full fills but probably many more) supported large populations at various periods of lake fills. Lake fills may have lasted 50 years or more with constant inflows from the Colorado river. Population peak may have reached 10,000 around the lake. Those stone tools could be 1000 years old or 10,000 years old.

Was exploring around Ocotillo and SW of the Coyote Mts. Lots of reported Archaic sites in that area. The Park spent a lot of time last year excavating such a site near Carrizo. The history of early man in this area is quite fascinating. The earliest first man site in San Diego is probably beneath the fancy homes south of the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club. Just finished reading this book on the subject and would definitely recommend it for those interested in the topic: https://sunbeltpublications.com/shop/first-people/
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 827
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

Buford
Buford
Posts: 306
Buford
Buford
Posts: 306
Topic: Park Closed?
Just saw the semi good news. Hopefully the park doesn’t get over run.

No dispersed camping is a bummer. I definitely don’t like camping near others, even before the pandemic. The sunrise to sunset hours are not great either.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

dsefcik
dsefcik
Administrator
Posts: 2434
dsefcik
dsefcik
Administrator
Posts: 2434
Topic: Park Closed?
http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=638

========

UPDATE (June 5, 2020) - As California State Parks begins working with locals on a phased and regionally-driven approach to increase access to state park units where compliance with state and local public health ordinances can be achieved, it is important for visitors to continue to practice physical distancing and avoid congregating with people outside their immediate household. Everyone has the responsibility to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.

Here are some guidelines for people visiting Anza-Borrego Desert State Park:

What is open now?
Anza- Borrego Desert SP is open to the public for day-use activities only from sunrise to sunset. The park remains closed to camping (developed and primitive).
  • Backcountry Unpaved Roads for day-use activities that do not lead into Ocotillo Wells.
  • Hell Hole Day-use Area
  • Sunrise Trail Head Parking / Day-use Areas
  • Very limited parking is now available to the public.

What is currently closed at this park and throughout the State Park System?
At this park:
  • Camping (developed and primitive)
  • Backcountry Unpaved Roads that lead into Ocotillo Wells
  • Open Dispersed Backcountry Camping
  • Peg Leg Primitive Camping Area
  • Culp Valley Primitive Camping Area
  • Coyote Canyon Above 3rd Crossing
  • North Coyote Canyon / Turkey Track Access Gate
  • Borrego Palm Canyon Day-use and Campground
  • Tamarisk Grove Campground Campgrounds
  • Arroyo Salado Primitive Camp
  • Blair Valley Primitive Camp
  • Yaqui Pass Primitive Camp
  • Yaqui Well Primitive Camp
  • Bow Willow Primitive Camp
  • Mt. Palm Springs Primitive Camp
  • Fish Creek Primitive Camp
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.
Statewide:
  • Campgrounds.
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.

Are there any new visitor guidelines?
Yes, please see below:
  • Stay Local: Stay close to home. Walk or bike into the park. Parking is very limited. Do not take road trips to parks and beaches or to neighboring states.
  • Stay Active: Keep walking, jogging, hiking and biking. Watch for one-way trails.
  • Stay Safer at 6 Feet: Maintain a physical distance of 6 feet or more. Gatherings, picnics and parties are not allowed. Visitors will be asked to leave if there are too many people at the park, beach or on trails to allow for the required physical distance.
  • Stay Clean: Be prepared. Bring soap/sanitizer and pack out all trash.
  • Stay Covered: wear a face covering whenever you are within six feet of another person who is not a member of your family or household.

Thank you for your patience and continued support of California State Parks as we work to limit your risk for exposure to COVID-19 in the outdoors. For more information, please visit parks.ca.gov/FlattenTheCurve.
edited by dsefcik on 6/4/2020
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 228
tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 228
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Great news! I'll be checking the web site tomorrow.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

deborah
deborah
Posts: 90
deborah
deborah
Posts: 90
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
I just called the park. It sounds like they are planning to open up some access tomorrow for day use. (!!!!) Here's what I understood from the conversation:


Some jeep trails and parking areas will be open for day use. Access to Ocotillo Wells will remain closed for now. Campgrounds will still be closed. I believe that she said overnight camping is not yet allowed, but I don't know if that applies to backcountry trips. I could have that wrong. Coyote Canyon will still have the usual seasonal closure for Bighorn Sheep that started on June 1.

I certainly don't want to spread any unfounded rumors. But I'm so ridiculously happy even at the possibility of being back in our desert, I had to share with you guys. I guess we'll see if the updates happen tomorrow. I'm going to gas up my truck just in case. smile
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 328
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
tekewin wrote:
Called the state park today and they said no idea on re-opening AB, but it would be posted on the web site the day the decision was made. Not very helpful.

Thanks. I can't imagine there is any logic involved in what parks open when. AB is one of the largest, least dense parks.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

dsefcik
dsefcik
Administrator
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dsefcik
dsefcik
Administrator
Posts: 2434
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
railexplorer wrote:
Its probably closed because A) They don't realize the park exists. B) They have no plan and are winging it. C) All of the above.

Yeah I'm a bit over the handling of this whole thing.


Good Postingi agreeWhat He SaidLogic
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 228
tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 228
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Called the state park today and they said no idea on re-opening AB, but it would be posted on the web site the day the decision was made. Not very helpful.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
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tommy750 wrote:
Sound like everyone is in agreement drones are awesome and terrible depending on how they're used. Ziphius, nice article on seal counting. My cheap drone camera now has more MP than the one in your article which is from 2011. Your Sony mirrorless setup is probably a completely different story! My little drone in intentionally 249 grams, one less than required for an FAA certificate which is .55 to 55lbs.

What interests me the most is high resolution panoramas and I think our area has a lot of possibilities.



What is your drones MP count Tommy? Some high res panos would be pretty fantastic.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
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Nice finds. Neat adventure Tommy! Were the camping circles on the benches above the ancient lake shore line? The multiple lake fills over the past 12,000 years ( At least 8 full fills but probably many more) supported large populations at various periods of lake fills. Lake fills may have lasted 50 years or more with constant inflows from the Colorado river. Population peak may have reached 10,000 around the lake. Those stone tools could be 1000 years old or 10,000 years old.
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

deborah
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Rocko1 wrote:
deborah wrote:
Yes, I guess it's just wishful thinking on my part. Looking at the public lands map layer on CalTopo, it seems the Pedro Fages Monument is in Anza Borrego as well.

Thanks for the info!



No problem. Cleveland NF is mostly open as well. You could park off S2 in this area(Pioneer Mail parking lot is open) and access the PCT and take it into AB if you wanted.



Oh that's a great recommendation. I'm thinking a weekday trip would be really nice. I'm due for a day off work. smile Thanks!!
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

railexplorer
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Its probably closed because A) They don't realize the park exists. B) They have no plan and are winging it. C) All of the above.

Yeah I'm a bit over the handling of this whole thing.
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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tekewin wrote:
Thanks for the photos and update.

Can't believe AB is still closed. Most of ANF is open, OC trails and parks open. San Diego county had +2 cases today, almost nothing. Hair salons are open in the OC, but the 600,000 acres in AB is just too tight to be safe. I will call them tomorrow if I have time to find out why.
edited by tekewin on 6/3/2020

This one doesn't make sense-it's one of the safest/largest parks.
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

tekewin
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Thanks for the photos and update.

Can't believe AB is still closed. Most of ANF is open, OC trails and parks open. San Diego county had +2 cases today, almost nothing. Hair salons are open in the OC, but the 600,000 acres in AB is just too tight to be safe. I will call them tomorrow if I have time to find out why.
edited by tekewin on 6/3/2020
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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deborah wrote:
Yes, I guess it's just wishful thinking on my part. Looking at the public lands map layer on CalTopo, it seems the Pedro Fages Monument is in Anza Borrego as well.

Thanks for the info!



No problem. Cleveland NF is mostly open as well. You could park off S2 in this area(Pioneer Mail parking lot is open) and access the PCT and take it into AB if you wanted.
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

tommy750
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tommy750
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Nice pics Rocko1. Like the one from the top.
6/2/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
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Sound like everyone is in agreement drones are awesome and terrible depending on how they're used. Ziphius, nice article on seal counting. My cheap drone camera now has more MP than the one in your article which is from 2011. Your Sony mirrorless setup is probably a completely different story! My little drone in intentionally 249 grams, one less than required for an FAA certificate which is .55 to 55lbs.

What interests me the most is high resolution panoramas and I think our area has a lot of possibilities.
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

deborah
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deborah
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Yes, I guess it's just wishful thinking on my part. Looking at the public lands map layer on CalTopo, it seems the Pedro Fages Monument is in Anza Borrego as well.

Thanks for the info!
6/2/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
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Love the photos. Thanks for being a responsible drone operator and keeping it out of the park. Drones are like dogs, great.... but too many people own them. If you eventually want to upgrade to a fancier camera and a bigger system, Don Leroi at Aerial Imaging Systems builds a bunch of hexacopters for NOAA to photograph whales, sea lions, and penguins. We use mainly Sony mirrorless cameras on our systems. https://aerialimagingsolutions.com

Their training for these systems are taken seriously, FAA certification required. https://aerialimagingsolutions.com/training/
edited by ziphius on 6/2/2020
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
deborah wrote:
Thanks Rocko1 for the report and the lovely pictures.

Do you happen to know if the Sunrise Trailhead is open for parking? Although, that is within the Anza Borrego park boundaries, so I guess it's still closed...

I did not drive by it this weekend but 2 weeks ago it was closed and since AB website has not changed for a while I would assume it's closed. You can park at the Pedro Fages Monument turn out-it has been open for a while and should still be.
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

deborah
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deborah
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Thanks Rocko1 for the report and the lovely pictures.

Do you happen to know if the Sunrise Trailhead is open for parking? Although, that is within the Anza Borrego park boundaries, so I guess it's still closed...
6/2/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

deborah
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It does give a really interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing!
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Buford wrote:
Nice to see some greenery and flowers.

I went hiking in Cuyamaca Saturday. The parking pullouts along the 79 were open, not just the Sweetwater one listed.

As for crowds, it was not crowded at all, although I did not hike to a waterfall or peak. The parking pullout was overflowing with cars on return, but never saw most of the people.



It is. I saw many young pine trees 5-15' doing well. I made it to the peak and halfway down before I saw anyone. Passed 3 people before I got back to the car.

Strange Sweetwater was closed Saturday-it was open on Sunday-about 70% full as I passed it on the way out.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Buford
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Nice. I actually enjoy the pictures as much as I find drones obnoxious.

I saw someone flying a drone within feet over an active peregrine nest this weekend. I don’t know if they knew the nest was there. Sadly the falcons didn’t take out the drone for our entertainment.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Buford
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Nice to see some greenery and flowers.

I went hiking in Cuyamaca Saturday. The parking pullouts along the 79 were open, not just the Sweetwater one listed.

As for crowds, it was not crowded at all, although I did not hike to a waterfall or peak. The parking pullout was overflowing with cars on return, but never saw most of the people.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
dsefcik wrote:
That's nice...I was wondering, is the (Cuyamaca) park open for parking and hiking as usual? No restrictions?



Parking is open on streets as well at campgrounds($10-day use only currently). Most trails open.

What is open now?
  • Paso Picacho Day-Use
  • Green Valley Falls Day-Use
  • Merigan Day-Use
  • Sweetwater Highway 79 Turnout
  • Very limited parking is now available to the public

What is currently closed at this park and throughout the State Park System?

At this park:
  • Dyar Visitor Center and Day-Use
  • Stonewall Mine Day-Use
Statewide:
  • Campgrounds.
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.


Crowded though-much more than normal. I got to the parking turn out at 5:40am, no cars. When I got back at 9:30 it was full with about 15 cars. Go early..or mid-week.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

dsefcik
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I like those red onion pics and the other IV pics also, nice work tommy750..Thumbs Up



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6/1/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

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That's nice...I was wondering, is the (Cuyamaca) park open for parking and hiking as usual? No restrictions?
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
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Rocko1 wrote:
Tommy you have a fantastic eye for finding things! Great pictures and finds. I have considered a drone but have reservations after being out in nature and having them buzz around near me-the noise can be quite off putting.


Agree, those yahoos flying drones all over public spaces or 2 ft away from the wildlife need to stay away. That said, really think it would be a great addition to park volunteers needing to document change over time at sensitive cultural sites. For example, just noticed by drone photos someone had been substantially altering a well known spoked wheel geoglyph near Ocotillo in the past years. Changes were made to another rather obscure geoglyph as well. Do-gooders? Kumeyaay? I don't know, but I forwarded the info to BLM for follow up. Not sure what the sheep counters would have to say about drones as a supplemental viewing platform. Drones can be annoying and noisy but many including mine are rather invisible and inaudible at about 50 ft overhead and may not be an issue for careful wildlife observers.

One last thing. I never have GPS enabled for cameras and phones but your drone will. Had to remind myself to remove all GPS data from pics of sensitive sites.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
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Scooter wrote:
Thank you for a very interesting trip report. It sure has been a slow spring in the desert and on the blog. Thanks Again


2020 sure has been a terrible year for just about everything including enjoying the desert. Hopefully things will change soon
6/1/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Did a quick early hike to the peak in Cuyamaca Sunday to beat the crowds and heat. Everything is so green. Bugs are again out in full force. Was about 49F when I started at 6am and low 70's by 9:30am when I got back.

Sky looked really cool over Viejas Mtn.


The lake from near the top


Water flowing from a small tributary feeding Cold Stream at about 5,100ft.
https://imgur.com/FXllwXB



Pines are doing great this year. Plenty of young trees thriving as well.
https://i.imgur.com/iAz91Tp.mp4

Looking north from the peak.




9.75 miles, 2,300ft gain. Album https://imgur.com/a/EJYwWzG
edited by Rocko1 on 6/1/2020
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
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Tommy you have a fantastic eye for finding things! Great pictures and finds. I have considered a drone but have reservations after being out in nature and having them buzz around near me-the noise can be quite off putting.
5/31/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Scooter
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Thank you for a very interesting trip report. It sure has been a slow spring in the desert and on the blog. Thanks Again
5/31/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
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Got a relatively inexpensive drone (Mavic Mini) recently to see how the desert looks from above. Went out on several trips this month to photograph known cultural sites and a couple things I found on GE that may or may not be "real." Would rate my drone flying skills as comparable to a teenager on Day 1 of Driver's Ed but haven't crashed it yet so happy about that. All of the pics are non ABDSP

Here's an archaic site near Ocotillo described by Begole back in the 70's.

IMP-110 by tomteske, on Flickr

Tool were typically rather large and crude and pottery/small projectile points many years in the future. Here's a couple stone tools still lying on the ground. Both are made of the commonly used green porphyric metavolcanic (that green spotted stuff) rock and both heavily patinated indicating they've been there a long time.

IMP-110 Tool by tomteske, on Flickr

IMP-110 Tool2 by tomteske, on Flickr


Was pretty sure I'd found a new geoglyph when I spotted this guy but apparently it has previously been recorded and is associated with a large quarry site for, you guessed it, porphyritic green metavolcanic rock. The geoglyph is a serpentine line about 65-70 meters long. Tire tracks are in the top middle of the pic.

Geoglyph Drone by tomteske, on Flickr


Geoglyph by tomteske, on Flickr

Geoglyph2 by tomteske, on Flickr

I think this is a geoglyph that was transected by Old Hwy 80 years ago and even more so by I-8.

Geoglyph by tomteske, on Flickr

Nearby cleared circles on a bench overlooking the Ocotillo area.

Rock Circles by tomteske, on Flickr

A large cleared cicle with a smaller rock circle in the perimetry on a bench overlooking Ocotillo.

Rock Circle2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Rock Circle by tomteske, on Flickr

Went out today and took pics of the lake bed of Ancient Lake Cahuilla. Definitely a different perspective.

Red Onions by tomteske, on Flickr

Red Onions3 by tomteske, on Flickr

Tree on Canal Bank by tomteske, on Flickr

If you can't fathom how the Imperial Valley can use 2M acre feet of Colorado River water every year, wonder no longer.

River Water2 by tomteske, on Flickr

River Water by tomteske, on Flickr

Would really like to do more drone photography with a nicer camera after I learn how to not crash. Shows a completely unique perspective of what we've seen a million times. Enjoy! Tom
5/22/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

Rocko1
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The state reopened parking to 27 state parks a few days ago-unfortunately none in SD County.
5/22/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

Buford
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Topic: Park Closed?
I am guessing the park needs guidance from Sacramento, all state parks appear to be under the same order. I was just looking up Cuyamaca and saw the same message from May 1st on their website.

Borrego Springs is still actively discouraging people from big cities from stopping in town for supplies.

I can’t wait for the park to reopen.

Edit->
Looks like Cuyamaca website just got updated. ABDSP still has the May 1st message.
edited by Buford on 5/22/2020
5/20/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

tekewin
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Topic: Park Closed?
Anybody heard any rumors about re-opening? Park web site was last updated May 1, but still says everything closed including dirt roads.
5/18/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Rocko1
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Topic: Cleveland NF
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1..nice...are you getting the CNF permits or just going out? Was half thinking for next weekend but we always get the (free) permits.

I applied for a permit and got a response from CNF ranger saying until the Descanso station is back open, no permits are required.
5/18/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Rocko1..nice...are you getting the CNF permits or just going out? Was half thinking for next weekend but we always get the (free) permits.
5/18/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Rocko1
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Topic: Cleveland NF
The wife and I did a quick overnight back in the CNF on Saturday. Was warm during the day, got to 49F at night, slight breeze. Really nice with the only exception being the bugs-out in full force-gnats, mosquito, flying ants, etc. Head nets really saved us, best 1oz item.



Sunrise comes early this time of year 5:41am




Was a nice trip.
5/17/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

dsefcik
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tommy750 wrote:
For the briefest of moments before Daren's ebike build was complete, I relished watching him struggle to keep up with me! Sadly, those days are over. Great build Daren. You are a multi talented guy! You ever though about getting one of those helmet thingies to protect your bean?? In camo of course smile

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5/17/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

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Britain wrote:
Cool build. Do the batteries build heat when on?



No idea...it's in ammo box for a reason...Thumbs Up

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edited by dsefcik on 5/17/2020
5/15/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

Britain
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Britain
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Cool build. Do the batteries build heat when on?
5/14/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: E-Bike Build
For the briefest of moments before Daren's ebike build was complete, I relished watching him struggle to keep up with me! Sadly, those days are over. Great build Daren. You are a multi talented guy! You ever though about getting one of those helmet thingies to protect your bean?? In camo of course smile
5/14/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: E-Bike Build
dsefcik wrote:
Weight - Somewhere around 60-70lbs probably
Top Speed - Flat, no wind, wearing my 8lb hiking boots, in a tuck and using the 4.5" slick tires inflated to 30psi.....close to 30mph
Range - Off Road 25-30 miles, on road about 35-40 miles

I run the off road tires tubeless and 7 psi in the back and 5 psi in the front. The slicks I run with tubes and about 25psi front and 30 rear.

Motor kit is a BBSHD from Luna Cycle

Battery pack is a 52volt and about 15 amp made from laptop batteries I harvested from computers at work that were headed for the recycle farm.

If you look thru the pictures you can see 4.5" slicks for the road and the 4" knobbies for off road.

The racks I bought on Amazon and made custom mounts for them

The custom triangle bag is made from 500D Cordura in Pencott Badlands camo (need to make the saddle bags still)

I have around 200 miles on the motor build version.

What else..?

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Wow. That is incredible for the weight. Stellar job.
5/14/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Rocko1
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Topic: Cleveland NF
rockhopper wrote:
Nice trip Rocko. The wildlife was really enjoying that seasonal creek heading down to the desert floor.


I am shocked at how far it is making it, especially with the weather we have had.
5/14/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

rockhopper
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Topic: E-Bike Build
Pretty impressive Daren. Loaded for Bear. I still have my old school Trek 18 speed Mountian bike. I'm not worthy.
5/14/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice trip Rocko. The wildlife was really enjoying that seasonal creek heading down to the desert floor.
5/13/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

dsefcik
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Weight - Somewhere around 60-70lbs probably
Top Speed - Flat, no wind, wearing my 8lb hiking boots, in a tuck and using the 4.5" slick tires inflated to 30psi.....close to 30mph
Range - Off Road 25-30 miles, on road about 35-40 miles

I run the off road tires tubeless and 7 psi in the back and 5 psi in the front. The slicks I run with tubes and about 25psi front and 30 rear.

Motor kit is a BBSHD from Luna Cycle

Battery pack is a 52volt and about 15 amp made from laptop batteries I harvested from computers at work that were headed for the recycle farm.

If you look thru the pictures you can see 4.5" slicks for the road and the 4" knobbies for off road.

The racks I bought on Amazon and made custom mounts for them

The custom triangle bag is made from 500D Cordura in Pencott Badlands camo (need to make the saddle bags still)

I have around 200 miles on the motor build version.

What else..?

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5/13/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

Rocko1
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Now that is impressive Daren! Can you give the specs? Weight, top speed, range?
5/13/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

ziphius
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ziphius
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Tommy that fuzzy plant is a mystery to me!
5/13/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

ziphius
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ziphius
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Quite the engineering feat Daren, I bow to your skills. My GF has a fancy Trek ebike that she loves for commuting, back in the days when we used to commute.
5/13/2020
Topic:
E-Bike Build

dsefcik
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Moved this over to a new thread.

Been telling myself I am gonna write up a post on my ebike but who knows when that will happen.
Here is a link to the photos over the last year of building it up from brand new out of the box....all inspired by tommy750 and his ebike.

https://www.darensefcik.com/Photography/Bicycles/E-Bike-Build/


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5/13/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Moved the ebike build to a new thread http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1533-ebike-build.aspx?MessageID=10771#post10771



@Tommy750, I like that pic of the bikes..nice!

Yeah, sorry I did hijack it, too lazy to start my own thread...Thread Hijack!

Been telling myself I am gonna write up a post on my ebike but who knows when that will happen.
Here is a link to the photos over the last year of building it up from brand new out of the box....all inspired by tommy750 and his ebike.

https://www.darensefcik.com/Photography/Bicycles/E-Bike-Build/

Thread Hijack!
Thread Hijack!

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edited by dsefcik on 5/13/2020
5/13/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Goodness, great pictures!! Love the views, those colors are amazing. The balancing rock is really cool. And yes, great bike / trail shots!

I haven't been getting out. My usual go-to spots are within the park boundaries or areas that are closed, and I guess it's all just been a bit disorienting so I've been staying local. I really appreciate the reminders that there are options, even with all the closures. Thanks for sharing a bit of "normal". smile
5/12/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

tekewin
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Great! The view from Garnet is one of my favorites in the park. Can't wait until the whole park is officially re-opened.
5/12/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Brian
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Rocko1 wrote:
Did you ever try a bug net? I used my buff to cover my mouth but they still swarm near my eyes-even with having my shirt/pants/hat treated with permethrin.


I bought one a couple years ago for backpacking in the Sierras. That's a good idea to use it for biking in buggy areas. The helmet would probably keep it the perfect distance away from the face.
edited by Brian on 5/12/2020
5/12/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Brian wrote:
I used to do a lot of mountain biking and I had always heard that Noble Canyon was one of the best spots. When I rode it, I had to keep the speed up to outrun the gnats, but every time I had to slow down for a technical section they would be swarming around my head and I had to be careful not to inhale them. I never went back.



Did you ever try a bug net? I used my buff to cover my mouth but they still swarm near my eyes-even with having my shirt/pants/hat treated with permethrin.
5/12/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Rocko1
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Topic: Cleveland NF
tommy750 wrote:
Nice pics Rocko1. Glad to see water down in Storm. Last time I was in that area was early 2019 and that drainage was bone dry. You ever looked around Oasis Spring? Assuming that's where most of that water is originating from. Now to continue Daren's hijack of your post, here's another ebike pic up in McCain. Gunna have to step up my game to get that fully accessorized look Daren's bike has smile

IMG_3881 by tomteske, on Flickr

Ziphius, you know what this cute fuzzy plant is?? Can't say I've ever noticed it before.

IMG_3895 by tomteske, on Flickr

I have always wanted to go check out the building at Oasis Spring-heck I am up in that area enough I always forget somehow. Water was flowing really nice in Indian Creek also.

Need more info on those bikes. Would love to get into that.
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

tommy750
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice pics Rocko1. Glad to see water down in Storm. Last time I was in that area was early 2019 and that drainage was bone dry. You ever looked around Oasis Spring? Assuming that's where most of that water is originating from. Now to continue Daren's hijack of your post, here's another ebike pic up in McCain. Gunna have to step up my game to get that fully accessorized look Daren's bike has smile

IMG_3881 by tomteske, on Flickr

Ziphius, you know what this cute fuzzy plant is?? Can't say I've ever noticed it before.

IMG_3895 by tomteske, on Flickr
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice looking photos / trip Rocko1 and Daren!
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice looking photos / trip Rocko1 and Daren!
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Brian
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Brian
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Topic: Cleveland NF
I used to do a lot of mountain biking and I had always heard that Noble Canyon was one of the best spots. When I rode it, I had to keep the speed up to outrun the gnats, but every time I had to slow down for a technical section they would be swarming around my head and I had to be careful not to inhale them. I never went back.
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice shots from the top. Dig the battle bike.
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Rocko1
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Topic: Cleveland NF
dsefcik wrote:
Very nice...Tom and I went out to McCain Valley for a bike ride, yes...bugs are in FULL force.






Sweet bike! Is that yours?
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

dsefcik
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Very nice...Tom and I went out to McCain Valley for a bike ride, yes...bugs are in FULL force.




5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Scooter
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Scooter
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Thanks Great pictures
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Scooter wrote:
Very nice. Is the forest open?

Trails are. Improved sites with bathrooms still closed.
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Scooter
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Scooter
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Very nice. Is the forest open?
5/11/2020
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Did a quick hike in the Cleveland NF this weekend. 9 miles, early start to beat the heat. Went up Garnet Peak then explored the Noble Canyon area. Bugs and gnats are out in full force.


From the top of Garnet Peak you can see water from Storm Canyon still flowing pretty far into Vallecito Valley.




Looking towards Granite.


Lots for flowers blooming.


5/6/2020
Topic:
Photography

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: Photography
El Centro NAF
Blue Angels will not post the schedules I asked. They show up in El Centro the first week of January and leave after the airshow at NAF around the second week of March. They usually practice in the morning around 9 am and then in the afternoon at 1 pm. They fly for about 2 hrs.

Yes, the rest of the year is wildlife and hiking. You got some great captures!


Buford wrote:
Nice pictures of the Blue Angels. Is there a way to get the schedule when the they will be in El Centro? I hope they do a local flyover like the East Coast.

Only pictures I've taken in the last couple days are local wild life.




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