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5/22/2026 Topic: Tusil Fire in Boulevard. 8 Freeway closed Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Tusil Fire in Boulevard. 8 Freeway closed Went through 8 this morning. Mostly out. A few fire trucks on the west side.

5/21/2026 Topic: Tusil Fire in Boulevard. 8 Freeway closed rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Tusil Fire in Boulevard. 8 Freeway closed Yep. We have about a dozen fires burning in So Cal right now including the crazy one out on Santa Rosa island in the channel islands. Half of the island has burnt up! Early start to fire season. Yikes!

5/19/2026 Topic: Tusil Fire in Boulevard. 8 Freeway closed surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Tusil Fire in Boulevard. 8 Freeway closed I heard there is a 500+ acre brush fire out in the Boulevard/Campo area and they closed the 8 freeway in both directions. Hope everyone is safe and that CalFire can get this under control quickly. https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/wildfire/brush-fire-san-diego-county-southeast/509-b9a400d2-92c9-4021-a487-761663c01513 edited by surfponto on 5/20/2026

5/10/2026 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain Same ammo box was there, but no longer chained. It was sitting between two boulders next to the signs.

5/10/2026 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain Have an old picture of the ammo box dsefcik wrote: There used to be an ammo box chained to the summit boulder on Sombrero, haven't seen it though last few times up there. Never saw the wooden sign before, at least that I remember. Nice trip!

5/9/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Many times I just give up, park it and hike the extra miles. Some 4 wheeler is going blaze a new way in eventually. You just hope the make it the best low impact route.

5/8/2026 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink Thanks Daren, Bri with the ABF was at the Borrego Springs meeting on Wednesday. I am glad they are getting involved earl in the process As expected no one in Borrego Springs wants this project to go through. I put the SDG&E slides up here. They will provide a more detailed map at their virtual meetings next week https://www.anzaborrego.net/2026/05/08/borrego-springs-community-sponsor-group-meeting/ dsefcik wrote: https://theabf.org/park-threat/ Not sure if it has any more info than is already posted. edited by surfponto on 5/8/2026

5/8/2026 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink This proposed power line route would run right thru the heart of the backcountry fire zones in SD county, it will most likely be approved but I hope not.

5/8/2026 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink https://theabf.org/park-threat/ Not sure if it has any more info than is already posted.

5/8/2026 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain There used to be an ammo box chained to the summit boulder on Sombrero, haven't seen it though last few times up there. Never saw the wooden sign before, at least that I remember. Nice trip!

5/5/2026 Topic: Stop The Golden Pacific Powerlink Bumper stickers surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Stop The Golden Pacific Powerlink Bumper stickers Well if you change your mind Daren let me know.🤔 You were a big part of the protests against the SPL and the f'n Ocotillo Express https://www.anzaborrego.net/2010/12/10/sunrise-powerlink-ground-breaking-ceremony-in-mccain-valley/ dsefcik wrote: I like the design of it but don't think it would do much good on my truck out in rural central florida.

5/5/2026 Topic: Stop The Golden Pacific Powerlink Bumper stickers dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: Stop The Golden Pacific Powerlink Bumper stickers I like the design of it but don't think it would do much good on my truck out in rural central florida.

5/3/2026 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink Not sure why they need that power line. Lake Mead gets any lower there will be no power at all. Unless they are going to pull from some place else. California needs to start generating electric thats reliable. surfponto wrote: Yes it is unfortunate how they turned Ocotillo, McCain etc. into a sacrifice zone. We were able to get the Sunrise Powerlink rerouted to avoid the park but as you know they went with their alternative southern.route which went through Boulevard, McCain and Cleveland National Forest. Original fight was to get the Sunrise rejected in any form which didn't happen as you know. Agree I hate seeing that Tule Wind Farm and then dropping down into Ocotillo to see all of the towers down there. Devastating Britain wrote: If theres news about it , its too late. The Sunrise came with baggage, Ocotillio Turbine farm and the ruining of McCain with more Turbines.

4/30/2026 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink Yes it is unfortunate how they turned Ocotillo, McCain etc. into a sacrifice zone. We were able to get the Sunrise Powerlink rerouted to avoid the park but as you know they went with their alternative southern.route which went through Boulevard, McCain and Cleveland National Forest. Original fight was to get the Sunrise rejected in any form which didn't happen as you know. Agree I hate seeing that Tule Wind Farm and then dropping down into Ocotillo to see all of the towers down there. Devastating Britain wrote: If theres news about it , its too late. The Sunrise came with baggage, Ocotillio Turbine farm and the ruining of McCain with more Turbines.

4/29/2026 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink If theres news about it , its too late. The Sunrise came with baggage, Ocotillio Turbine farm and the ruining of McCain with more Turbines.

4/29/2026 Topic: Stop The Golden Pacific Powerlink Bumper stickers Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Stop The Golden Pacific Powerlink Bumper stickers Where those go so do wind turbines.

4/29/2026 Topic: Stop The Golden Pacific Powerlink Bumper stickers surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Stop The Golden Pacific Powerlink Bumper stickers I am making a limited number of these bumper stickers to get the word out. No charge so message me with your address if you want me to mail you one.

4/28/2026 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain Nice. We still have our 2021 TRD Sport 4x4. Great truck but gas mileage leaves much to be desired. Glad the 4th Gen is working out for you. tekewin wrote: surfponto wrote: Great post. We did Sombrero Peak years ago and I seem to remember it being a bit of a bushwhacking hike. We camp on Egg Mountain occasionally but usually the RVers have it staked out since it is an easy drive up. Nice new Tacoma BTW. I found my old post about Sombrero Peak if you're interested. https://www.anzaborrego.net/2009/01/18/indian-valley-to-sombrero-peak/ Your report from 2009 still holds up. Not much has changed, haha. The truck is a 2025 TRD Off-Road. Traded in my gen3 2019 mainly for better electronics and the color I wanted. I was not sure about I4 turbo engine, but it's been great and is much more responsive on the highway. It's off road capabilities exceed my driving skills.

4/28/2026 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain surfponto wrote: Great post. We did Sombrero Peak years ago and I seem to remember it being a bit of a bushwhacking hike. We camp on Egg Mountain occasionally but usually the RVers have it staked out since it is an easy drive up. Nice new Tacoma BTW. I found my old post about Sombrero Peak if you're interested. https://www.anzaborrego.net/2009/01/18/indian-valley-to-sombrero-peak/ Your report from 2009 still holds up. Not much has changed, haha. The truck is a 2025 TRD Off-Road. Traded in my gen3 2019 mainly for better electronics and the color I wanted. I was not sure about I4 turbo engine, but it's been great and is much more responsive on the highway. It's off road capabilities exceed my driving skills.

4/28/2026 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain Great post. We did Sombrero Peak years ago and I seem to remember it being a bit of a bushwhacking hike. We camp on Egg Mountain occasionally but usually the RVers have it staked out since it is an easy drive up. Nice new Tacoma BTW. I found my old post about Sombrero Peak if you're interested. https://www.anzaborrego.net/2009/01/18/indian-valley-to-sombrero-peak/

4/27/2026 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain Nice pictures. I have mixed feelings as well for paying $10/25 for a pit toilet only.

4/27/2026 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Sombrero, Palm Benchmark, Egg Mountain This was my second visit to Sombrero, always fun. I confirmed the big slanted boulder as the high point, with the second highest point the boulder with the CA Beaches and Parks benchmark. I checked a third possible high point, but it was clearly lower than the other two. Like the first time, I lost the use trail somewhere in the gully and had to course correct. Indian Canyon road was rocky the first couple of miles, then smoothed out after it splits into north and south. Some signs on the summit After Sombrero, I pulled off the road before the split to climb Palm Benchmark (not the Palms Benchmark in Collins Valley). It was short, about 1.5 miles round trip, but a boulder hop all the way. It's not difficult and the route doesn't matter much. The terrain was similar everywhere. I went up the ridge, then descended a series of gullies. The summit had an 8' boulder with the benchmark sticking out of the top. Cool views back to Sombrero. It had a register placed by Wes Shelberg in Jan, 1997 with more signatures than I expected. Another CA div of Beaches and Parks BM, rusted register can Sombrero from Palm Benchmark Finally, I drove up to Egg Mountain. Good dirt road all the way. I was going to check out the palm groves near the Mountain Palm Springs Campground, but it had one of those $10 pay stations for day use, $25 to camp, so I passed. Maybe next time. I have mixed feelings about the pay stations that have popped up in various places. Sombrero from Egg Mountain. edited by tekewin on 4/27/2026

4/27/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road It's a bummer the road is no longer is service. It makes it much harder to reach the deep areas NE of Collins Valley. Many of my favorite peaks are hidden back there. I think the next time I try to visit, I'll bring a mountain bike to traverse the old roads past third crossing, assuming I can get over the stream on foot.

4/26/2026 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Golden Pacific Powerlink Well here we go again. Sunrise Powerlink with a polished new name. https://www.anzaborrego.net/2026/04/27/say-no-to-the-golden-pacific-powerlink/ There are some in person and virtual meeting coming up that I have listed on the link above. I will try to make the Borrego Springs Meeting in person and will probably zoom into the SDG&E meetings.

3/28/2026 Topic: Alta Seca Bench rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Alta Seca Bench Nice expedition and great photos. Thanks for sharing. I also enjoy getting up there in the old growth trees.

3/25/2026 Topic: Alta Seca Bench Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Alta Seca Bench surfponto wrote: The views from the top are awesome. Crazy there was still snow up there. Yes we walked through some patches of snow. The pines at the top and on the bench are really fantastic. You do not feel like you are in Socal. Some sections of San Gorgonio-south side of Anderson Peak have some similar areas-giant old growth trees.

3/25/2026 Topic: Alta Seca Bench surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Alta Seca Bench The views from the top are awesome. Crazy there was still snow up there.

3/24/2026 Topic: Alta Seca Bench Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Alta Seca Bench I'll add that the Santa Rosa Truck Trail is in significantly worse shape than a year ago. There are a couple areas that are badly rutted. It's still passable with a Subaru, but it's slow going.

3/24/2026 Topic: Alta Seca Bench Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Alta Seca Bench A couple of weekends ago Brian and I did an overnight backpacking trip starting near Toro Peak, dropping off the Alta Seca bench and camping on the ridge, 5 miles south of where we started. This was plan B as another heat wave had hit and it was too hot near Rockhouse. It was nice and cool at the top of Toro although plenty warm near camp at 5,800ft. Our goal was to make it south along the ridge until we met up with the trail that goes down to Stiff. It was easy sailing through the pine forest sections of the bench. The real work started when we had to drop off the bench. Steep, brushy, lose rocks, cairns strewn sporadically from different routes-this made it harder for some reason. It’s slow going-1mph. Lots of back pedaling to get around obstacles. We stopped a couple miles short of the ridge that came up from Stiff and decided to just make camp. It was plenty warm. After a while I decided to try to make it to the spot above Stiff. Brian stayed back-the smart move. I wanted to see how fast I could get there-just over an hour for 1.75 miles-that was really pushing it. That section of the ridge was also relatively free of brush but you just can’t go much faster. There are nice pinon pines at that spot and plenty of places to camp had we made it. Looking north at the bench. The saddle to the right of the center peak is where you have to go.. Made it back to camp and was cooked. Was a windy night in the spot I had set up. The morning on the SR ridge are magical. The colors always blow me away. In the morning we started back up the bench-which was easier than going down. Besides a couple of navigation snafus it was an uneventful hike back to the pine forest- cool and less bugs than the day before. We talked about doing the entire ridge but near the end of the hike I think we both decided it was too much. Doing sections may be the best way to complete the entire ridge. Brian supplied the best pre and post hike beverage. I was very grateful. 10 miles, 2700ft gain/loss not including side trip to ridge above Stiff-that was 3.5 miles, 800ft gain extra.

3/15/2026 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Great flower shots. We just got back from the Jojoba Wash area. The cactus blooms are starting to really show.

3/12/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Brian. Thank you very much. I really appreciate the networking on this website

3/12/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Brian wrote: The issue isn't just the storm damage. The storm changed the course of the stream. It now flows along what was formerly the road between third crossing and the gate. Because of this, the park can't simply re-grade the road as they've done in the past. Opening the road would require coming up with a new route for that section, with all the environmental studies and permits such a thing would involve. The park hasn't been very forthcoming about whether a new road is in the planning stage or whether they even want to do it at all. Suffice it to say that even if they do want to do it, it probably won't happen for several years. It does seem like it's becoming more popular to backpack into Collins Valley and the park has lifted the restriction on that which was in place right after the storm. There was water in Cougar Canyon when I went last season, but I haven't gotten back there this season, so my info may be out of date.

3/11/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road The issue isn't just the storm damage. The storm changed the course of the stream. It now flows along what was formerly the road between third crossing and the gate. Because of this, the park can't simply re-grade the road as they've done in the past. Opening the road would require coming up with a new route for that section, with all the environmental studies and permits such a thing would involve. The park hasn't been very forthcoming about whether a new road is in the planning stage or whether they even want to do it at all. Suffice it to say that even if they do want to do it, it probably won't happen for several years. It does seem like it's becoming more popular to backpack into Collins Valley and the park has lifted the restriction on that which was in place right after the storm. There was water in Cougar Canyon when I went last season, but I haven't gotten back there this season, so my info may be out of date.

3/11/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road I am looking for some help on the bi pass road which is closed due to storm damage. Does anyone know the status of it opening ? Also does anyone know if there is water in Cougar Canyon ? Thanks in advance Scooter

3/9/2026 Topic: Summer hiking Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper wrote: Brian wrote: rockhopper wrote: Did a neat exploration off the east side down into black rabbit towards Martinez That area has been on my radar lately. I never hear about anyone going there. Which is right up my alley. I found these photos from that trip. Mostly bushwaking down from the logging road off the east side. cheers That looks like my kind of exploring.

3/6/2026 Topic: Summer hiking Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Summer hiking Nice pics. I am hoping I can do something in that area in May when the desert gets too hot. I've always wanted to explore Ebbens Valley and I always thought I would approach it from the bottom. But now that you've got me looking at the topo map, it seems like it might be easier from the top.

3/5/2026 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Summer hiking Brian wrote: rockhopper wrote: Did a neat exploration off the east side down into black rabbit towards Martinez That area has been on my radar lately. I never hear about anyone going there. Which is right up my alley. I found these photos from that trip. Mostly bushwaking down from the logging road off the east side. cheers

3/1/2026 Topic: Summer hiking Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper wrote: Did a neat exploration off the east side down into black rabbit towards Martinez That area has been on my radar lately. I never hear about anyone going there. Which is right up my alley.

2/28/2026 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Rocko1 wrote: Looked like a really nice day. Update: Went out again last weekend after the storm to scope out some property and hot spring soak my overworked body. Sky valley and the San Andreas fault

2/28/2026 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Summer hiking Toro is great for base camp with water source nearby. Did a neat exploration off the east side down into black rabbit towards Martinez. The bench to cotton woods sounds neat also. Maybe find Figtree johns "lost gold mine" :-)

2/25/2026 Topic: Summer hiking Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Summer hiking I really enjoy the terrain up there and out to the bench. Brian and I have talked out doing a trip from the peak to the end of Rockhouse. Prob. better to start at the peak then drop down to cottonwoods.

2/24/2026 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Looked like a really nice day.

2/16/2026 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Greetings adventure travelers. Took a quick trip out to the desert to get out and enjoy the weather and scope out some new hot spring soaking areas. Rockhopper The San Jacinto mountains from the east side. Desert daisies with Joshua Tree monument beyond. Desert flowers at San Andreas fault zone. Desert Lavender? Desert wildflowers still going. Incoming rains will extend the bloom. San Andreas fault with the mighty San Jacinto 10,851 ft. beyond. Second photo of same view as above. What are those three (3) objects. Not on lens. Are they 3 orbs?, 3 helicopters in distance. Three bees ! or dragon flies perhaps? (Water was flowing out of the fault nearby. Since dragon flies are always near a water source.) In flying formation! Cheers! edited by rockhopper on 2/16/2026 edited by rockhopper on 2/16/2026 edited by rockhopper on 2/19/2026

1/28/2026 Topic: Forum issues again surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Forum issues again Great thanks for the tip. I will take a look at what is involved and yes agree 100% about all the social media stuff. tekewin wrote: Nice photos! The San Gabriel mountains forum recently moved to PHPBB3, but it was a long, labor intensive process. They were able to preserve 95% of the posts and photos. I find value in forums that allow long form story telling without the distractions of social media platforms. Good luck if you decide to go with a new system.

1/28/2026 Topic: Forum issues again tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Forum issues again Nice photos! The San Gabriel mountains forum recently moved to PHPBB3, but it was a long, labor intensive process. They were able to preserve 95% of the posts and photos. I find value in forums that allow long form story telling without the distractions of social media platforms. Good luck if you decide to go with a new system.

1/26/2026 Topic: Forum issues again surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Forum issues again Sorry the forum was having issues again. Functionality has been restored but I had to disable email notifications. Mentioned to Daren that I may look for an alternative solution that is more robust and a little more up to current technologies. Anyway, thanks for your patience and thanks to all of you that keep this forum going. Bob Here are a couple of pictures I took a couple weeks ago near Bow Willow. edited by surfponto on 1/26/2026

1/26/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Bishop_Bob wrote: Greetings, fellow desert rats. I'm looking to backpack overnight from Culp Valley campground to South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon, traveling as far as the mouth of the canyon where it meets third palm grove. Will I have any luck along the way finding a campsite in this canyon - a flat space at least large enough for me to roll out my sleeping bag? Also, the greenery along the length of South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon (seen by satellite imagery) suggests water availability -- am I right, and if so, is it likely to be a flowing creek in early February? Sounds like a great trip. Post some pictures when you get back

1/26/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Let us know how it goes and post some pictures of your adventures Bishop_Bob wrote: Greetings, fellow desert rats. I'm looking to backpack overnight from Culp Valley campground to South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon, traveling as far as the mouth of the canyon where it meets third palm grove. Will I have any luck along the way finding a campsite in this canyon - a flat space at least large enough for me to roll out my sleeping bag? Also, the greenery along the length of South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon (seen by satellite imagery) suggests water availability -- am I right, and if so, is it likely to be a flowing creek in early February?

1/17/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Buford Posts: 471	Buford Posts: 471 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Depending on the route, could be interesting. I assume you know how rugged the terrain is? There will likely be water where the south fork meets the middle fork of Palm Canyon, although I have not been there for a couple years. Not sure about water in the South Fork itself. Overall water situation will depend on the time of year, how recent, and how much rain fell.

1/16/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon There are always places big enough to roll out a pad and bag. Hellhole Flat is a great area to camp and explore. Can't comment on the water, maybe somebody who has been out there recently will know.

1/15/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Bishop_Bob Posts: 1	Bishop_Bob Posts: 1 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Greetings, fellow desert rats. I'm looking to backpack overnight from Culp Valley campground to South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon, traveling as far as the mouth of the canyon where it meets third palm grove. Will I have any luck along the way finding a campsite in this canyon - a flat space at least large enough for me to roll out my sleeping bag? Also, the greenery along the length of South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon (seen by satellite imagery) suggests water availability -- am I right, and if so, is it likely to be a flowing creek in early February?

12/8/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Yaqui Peak Thank you all for the info! Will have to check it out.

12/6/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 wrote: can you drive all the way to the top of the western Pinyon Ridge on Jasper Trail/Old Culp Valley Rd or are those dirt roads closed?. I've generally found the section from Ranchita to the Wilson TH to be in really good shape. The turnoff for Jasper trail is just after you start going downhill from Ranchita and it is super easy to miss unless you know right where it is. From there to Old Culp Valley road is easy enough to do in a passenger car. From the intersection with Old Culp Valley Road down to the Wilson trail is also generally good except sometimes has a lengthwise rut which I have generally been able to steer around. From the Wilson trail downhill to Culp Valley I would classify as 4WD only.

12/5/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 wrote: Nice TR Tekewin and thanks for getting the forum's winter season going! Pardon my ignorance, but can you drive all the way to the top of the western Pinyon Ridge on Jasper Trail/Old Culp Valley Rd or are those dirt roads closed? Have never been on Pinyon Ridge but looks like an interesting place to hike/camp. Old Culp Valley Rd for sure (or at least in 2021 and before) but most likely 4WD as there are deep ruts and off camber sections. I wanna say yes to Jasper trail but I never drove it that I remember. You can drive and camp OCVR out to the Pinyon Ridge trailhead.

12/5/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 wrote: Nice TR Tekewin and thanks for getting the forum's winter season going! Pardon my ignorance, but can you drive all the way to the top of the western Pinyon Ridge on Jasper Trail/Old Culp Valley Rd or are those dirt roads closed? Have never been on Pinyon Ridge but looks like an interesting place to hike/camp. I don't know if those roads are open and/or in good shape. It's been quite a few years since I was hiking in that area. Hopefully, someone in the forum knows the answer and current status. I think those roads are all on public land.

12/5/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Yaqui Peak Nice TR Tekewin and thanks for getting the forum's winter season going! Pardon my ignorance, but can you drive all the way to the top of the western Pinyon Ridge on Jasper Trail/Old Culp Valley Rd or are those dirt roads closed? Have never been on Pinyon Ridge but looks like an interesting place to hike/camp.

12/3/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Yaqui Peak Brian wrote: Nice trip report. Rocko1 and I went to the guzzler from the other direction last year, starting from the Wilson trail. https://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic1729-pinyon-ridge-and-the-guzzler.aspx Very nice!

12/3/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Yaqui Peak Nice trip report. Rocko1 and I went to the guzzler from the other direction last year, starting from the Wilson trail. https://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic1729-pinyon-ridge-and-the-guzzler.aspx

12/2/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik wrote: Every time I have driven out there I have always looked up and thought about an ascent from the cactus loop trail / yaqui campground area up one of the those fingers. Another trip I have thought of would be to park out in Culp Valley and backpack out to Yaqui peak and camp for the night and hike back the next day, exploring all the way. That would be a great trip from Culp Valley. I don't think the ridge between Wilson Benchmark and Yaqui is much traveled.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: Yaqui Peak Every time I have driven out there I have always looked up and thought about an ascent from the cactus loop trail / yaqui campground area up one of the those fingers. Another trip I have thought of would be to park out in Culp Valley and backpack out to Yaqui peak and camp for the night and hike back the next day, exploring all the way.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik wrote: Nice TR Only a hair more to go see the guzzlers. I went up Ship many moons ago, nice little bump off the hwy. I knew they were up the ridge somewhere, but wasn't sure how far. I wish I would have wandered up that way to take a look. Maybe next time.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: Yaqui Peak Nice TR Only a hair more to go see the guzzlers. I went up Ship many moons ago, nice little bump off the hwy.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Yaqui Peak Nice trip. I have not considered doing that one. Thanks for the trip report. One Rosy Boa crossing the road in Blair Valley a few years ago.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1385 Topic: Yaqui Peak Looks like a great trip and the weather looks perfect. Have never seen a rosy boa out there only a red racer when Daren and I were hiking around Indian Valley. Thanks for posting.👍🏻

11/30/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 398	tekewin Posts: 398 Topic: Yaqui Peak It's been too long since I visited Anza-Borrego. I went back to pick up some lesser peaks I've missed like Plum Peak (unofficial near Sentenac). After that quickie, I drove up Yaqui Pass Road and parked at a turnout on the west side below Ship Benchmark. Ship had a benchmark with a lot of signatures. From there, I went cross country to Yaqui Peak (aka peak 3398). I debated whether to take a gully up or stick to the ridges. There were three major gullies, I took the middle one that ended on a ridge south of the summit. There were also a series of class 2 dry falls that made it fun. I spotted some cairns at a few falls marking bypass routes. This gully was not a stranger to humans. After intersecting the ridge, I continued another mile weaving around cactus. On the way, I stumbled across a rosy boa, the first I'd seen in over 100 trips to the desert. It's head was in a hole and it was sluggish in the cool weather. Ship Benchmark Yaqui Peak on the right In the gully Yaqui Peak summit, ammo box. Wilson Benchmark somewhere on the ridge behind. Yaqui Peak had a metal ammo box containing several registers going back to 1997. Yaqui sported a beautiful view of Borrego Springs to the north and some of my favorite desert mountains: San Ysidro, Indianhead, Coyote, the Santa Rosa ridge, and even snowy San Jacinto. Yaqui exceeded expectations. It seemed this peak is only climbed a few times a year. Heading down, I stuck to the ridge which was a little easier. The ridge ended at Yaqui Pass Road and I walked back along a sandy wash about 30' below the road. 7 miles round trip, 2000' gain. Looking back at where I started Borrego Springs below. Snowy San Jacinto distant left.

7/23/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland davidwyby wrote: Very dry everywhere this year (or two) can't keep the dust down. Stop by sometime, Britain. How have been David? Well stop by next time at the desert house.

7/23/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland davidwyby Posts: 48	davidwyby Posts: 48 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Very dry everywhere this year (or two) can't keep the dust down. Stop by sometime, Britain.

7/23/2025 Topic: The Santa Rosas Sawmill Trail (Sort Of) davidwyby Posts: 48	davidwyby Posts: 48 Topic: The Santa Rosas Sawmill Trail (Sort Of) Howdy, all. I became friends with Buford Crites a few years ago by finding the cabin ransacked and calling him. Took a few trips up a year to escape the heat and maintain the cabin. After his passing I haven't been up much, been pursuing other interests, but went up and camped last weekend. I'll post some pics and links, my Santa Rosa-itis has flared up again. :-) I want to see if I can get in touch with Harry Quinn and pick his brain on history up there. If you google him and Pinyon Pines, as well as Ann Japenga you'll find enough to keep you busy reading about the area for a while. oops, forgot pics have to be hosted and linked...Haven't used any hosting svcs in years. edited by davidwyby on 7/24/2025

7/16/2025 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash TheFastRunner Posts: 2	TheFastRunner Posts: 2 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash Maybe. I didn’t try to dig it out at all, but it may be possible. The standing water that was there looked pretty green so I would leave that alone.

7/15/2025 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash Interesting find! Was there enough to collect if needed?

7/13/2025 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Nice. On my list to visit now.

7/13/2025 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story The pictures in the article are from the artwork from Indian hill. Compared them to the ones I took.

7/12/2025 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash TheFastRunner Posts: 2	TheFastRunner Posts: 2 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash This is a couple years old, but I recently found the forum and thought I would add to some of the other reports in here. My family loves spending time in Anza Borrego and I've done a number of hikes and backpacking trips in the area. It really is amazing what you can find out there just a couple hours from LA or San Diego. On a prior hike to Rattlesnake Spring I hiked down into Palo Verde wash on the way out and noticed the huge dry fall that separates Lower Palo Verde wash and Upper Palo Verde wash. It's at least 100'; I would love to see what it looks like during a heavy rain. On a number of topo maps it shows there is a spring (Palo Verde Spring) on the headwall of Lower Palo Verde wash, but I had not seen any sign of water in that area. I decided to put together a hike that would take me up into Upper Palo Verde wash, then up to the mountain that looms over the wash before hiking across to Pyramid Peak and back down into Smoke Tree Canyon. I hadn't been into Smoke Tree Canyon before and wanted to see the water tanks as well before I took the cut across back into Palo Verde wash to get back to the car. On New Years Eve I set off and climbed the steep trail that brings you out of Palo Verde wash and up onto the ridge. From there I hiked a little further to get above the upper section of the wash before I dropped back down to Upper Palo Verde wash. The way down was not a lot of fun. Upper Palo Verde wash is great--I highly recommend exploring it. The section right before the drop off is really amazing--it's' completely scoured from water and is just granite. I was a little nervous around the edge--it's a long way down. It was in this area (noted on the track below) where I think I found a small spring (pictured). There was no standing water or even wet gravel anywhere else on this hike and there hadn't been any recent rain. I wonder if this is "Palo Verde Spring" as called out on some of the topo maps, or if it's something else entirely. Worth checking out--always exciting to find sources of water out here. From here I climbed out of the wash and made my way to the top of the nearby mountain to take a break. Tons of Cholla on the way up but manageable (pictured). Beautiful views from the top, especially with some morning fog in the valley. From here, it was a fairly easy cross country hike over to Pyramid. Pyramid was really windy, but again great views from the top. Going down I wasn't sure if there was a path so I just went straight down the face towards Smoke Tree Canyon, which was easy enough. I think there's a trail that stays out of the upper section of the canyon but I hadn't been here before and I knew if I stayed in the canyon I couldn't get lost. Unfortunately there are a few small dry falls that need to be navigated. This is not my favorite thing to do, especially by myself but it wasn't too much of a problem and otherwise the canyon was a lot of fun to descend. There wasn't an easy way around that I could see, so it's probably best to find a path that avoids this altogether. I included pictures of a couple of them. Once I got down into the flatter section I detoured to check out the water tanks (fairly full) then found the cut off that led back towards Palo Verde wash and the Moly Mine. All in the hike was 10.8 miles with 3,937 feet of elevation gain. It took me five hours with a stop for lunch. Has anyone else spent any time in the upper section of the Palo Verde wash? It looks like you could almost follow it to the top of Mile High Mountain, which I might try later. I've done Rabbit and Villager, and feel like I need to cross mile high off the list. But it's just such a long hike any way you go. I've also been meaning to hike Indian Head some time, maybe this fall. So many great things to see in the area.

7/12/2025 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story Thanks for posting. Will have to check out. Welcome to the forum! Trekking in the wilderness. I try to connect with the sense of awe and wonder the ancient native people must have felt.

7/11/2025 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story Karan77 Posts: 1	Karan77 Posts: 1 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story The Shaman Cave story on DesertUSA offers a fascinating glimpse into the rich cultural and spiritual history of the American Southwest. It captures the mystery and reverence surrounding the sacred places used by Native American shamans for rituals and ceremonies. The article paints a vivid picture of the desert landscape and the hidden stories carved into stone, passed down through generations. I was especially intrigued by the blend of natural beauty and spiritual symbolism described in the narrative. This is a must-read for anyone interested in Native American heritage, desert exploration, or the mystical side of the Southwest. https://teerresulttoday.org/

7/8/2025 Topic: Summer hiking Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Summer hiking Interesting

7/7/2025 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Thanks for sharing and the excellent photos! I have been meaning to visit there and soak in the hot springs. enjoy your olla. Looks very cool!

7/7/2025 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Summer hiking Great place to escape the heat. I have enjoyed many camps on the sides of Toro peak over the decades. Sweet water was always flowing at "the spring" to tank up. Last car camp (truck) was off an old logging road heading east / south east from the main road near the spring. My understanding of the lack of Native occupation at up in the higher mountain areas is that is home to the spirits. edited by rockhopper on 7/8/2025

7/4/2025 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Thank You Tommy for the suggestion. Great museum ! I am trying to make it to Barona’s. Just about to go when Covid hit.

7/4/2025 Topic: Summer hiking Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Summer hiking We all know the desert is too hot. Last year we went and car camped up on Toro Peak. Then did day hikes on the bench east of Toro. It amazes me that there are no signs of Native American occupation. Not one shard of pottery ! The helicopter crash site is just North of the landing pad east of Toro Peak. We camped about a half mile before the locked gate to Toro Peak on the North side of the road. Nice campsite.

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 wrote: Britain wrote: Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy. Was it this trip? https://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1665-lucia-and-alamo-canyon-rock-house-ruins--day-bp.aspx Was on a 2/2022 BP trip from Rattlesnake to Wonderstone to Travertine Palms but don't think I posted on that one. Agree, lots of interesting trails out there. Could be that hike. Wasnt you it is was Gary who was in the picture. He was off in the distance with the Salton in the background.

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy. Was it this trip? https://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1665-lucia-and-alamo-canyon-rock-house-ruins--day-bp.aspx Was on a 2/2022 BP trip from Rattlesnake to Wonderstone to Travertine Palms but don't think I posted on that one. Agree, lots of interesting trails out there.

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2643 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy. From Rattlesnake, you can head up the hills S/SE and find a trail that will take you over to Mile High and that general area. Lots of old trails and roasting pits on those ridges. Just gotta go explore..!

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy. Tommy will chime in. I am amazed at all the old native trails interlacing the Santa Rosas. The ones on the east as you refer are seldom hiked but worth the effort! edited by rockhopper on 6/11/2025

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy.

6/10/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Buford Posts: 471	Buford Posts: 471 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Williamson is fun, did it a couple years ago via Shepherd pass and the bowl. May as well hit Tyndall while you are in the area. Cactus to clouds is another fun one. I use metal hiking poles. With all the bushwhacking, I don't think carbon ones would survive the way I use them.

6/7/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Finally did The Ramp rockhopper wrote: Britain wrote: tommy750 wrote: Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I saw Mile High leering at me a couple times on the way up and down but just wasn't ready for that add on Buddy and me did Cactus to clouds the following week. Working at getting shape to tackle Mt Williamson again. Group of us did it in the late 70's. But lol by friend busted his ankle a week before we were to go. Mt Williamson! The mighty Sierras! Now you're talking. I spent 20 years of summers peak bagging and fishing above timberline. Good luck. Solo'd it back in the 90's. Day hike bottom to top and back. 1 Qt. of water, jerky and a camera. No hiking poles! In the late 70's we hit Williamson 2 times. First time after the boulder field and before the ladder we camped but a storm moved through during the night and dumped a couple of feet of snow in front of us. Wet frozen stuff. WE turned around. Second time we got the top. The third time same guy we went up broke his ankle but we were both in our late 50's at that time. Fun stuff couldnt do it now.

6/6/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp rockhopper Posts: 691	rockhopper Posts: 691 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: tommy750 wrote: Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I saw Mile High leering at me a couple times on the way up and down but just wasn't ready for that add on Buddy and me did Cactus to clouds the following week. Working at getting shape to tackle Mt Williamson again. Group of us did it in the late 70's. But lol by friend busted his ankle a week before we were to go. Mt Williamson! The mighty Sierras! Now you're talking. I spent 20 years of summers peak bagging and fishing above timberline. Good luck. Solo'd it back in the 90's. Day hike bottom to top and back. 1 Qt. of water, jerky and a camera. No hiking poles!

6/5/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I highly recommend the Cascade Mountain Tech carbon poles. Costco has them from time to time $30. Parts are inexpensive also. I have beat the snot out of mine and they hold up well.

6/4/2025 Topic: New Camera Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: New Camera tommy750 wrote: Great choice and great pics! Used to drag my dslr around in my backpack but gave up cuz carrying an extra 5+ lbs was often the break even point between fun/not fun. Yeah. I mount the dslr on my shoulder strap and sometimes pack a long lens at least when I was younger. Now just the dslr.

6/4/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 wrote: Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I saw Mile High leering at me a couple times on the way up and down but just wasn't ready for that add on Buddy and me did Cactus to clouds the following week. Working at getting shape to tackle Mt Williamson again. Group of us did it in the late 70's. But lol by friend busted his ankle a week before we were to go.

6/4/2025 Topic: New Camera tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: New Camera Great choice and great pics! Used to drag my dslr around in my backpack but gave up cuz carrying an extra 5+ lbs was often the break even point between fun/not fun.

6/4/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I saw Mile High leering at me a couple times on the way up and down but just wasn't ready for that add on

6/4/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Upper June Wash Brian wrote: Rocko1 wrote: Same. Every time I am up there I say 'someday'... I think the "easy" way to do a backpacking trip to those flats would be to drive to Hapaha flat and start from the guzzler. I haven't been able to make it to Hapaha by car for a few years now due to a rock obstacle blocking the road, but I recently saw a Facebook post from someone who made it there in a Forrester. Made me wonder if the obstacle has recently been cleared. Yeah, there's always that one place. I last drove through there in 2/2024 and noticed someone had removed a couple large boulders on the north side of the track that were an issue (to a pickup at least) the previous month but not sure how things are now. Used to be easy after a dozer went through there sometime around 2013 as I recall. Is Pinyon Mt Rd up to Pinyon Mt and then hike to Whale an option these days? Havent been up that road for years. The Spot by tomteske, on Flickr

6/3/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Upper June Wash Rocko1 wrote: Same. Every time I am up there I say 'someday'... I think the "easy" way to do a backpacking trip to those flats would be to drive to Hapaha flat and start from the guzzler. I haven't been able to make it to Hapaha by car for a few years now due to a rock obstacle blocking the road, but I recently saw a Facebook post from someone who made it there in a Forrester. Made me wonder if the obstacle has recently been cleared.

6/3/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 631	Britain Posts: 631 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago.

6/3/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Upper June Wash ziphius wrote: Great trip Tom, the 'old way' was the best route. I've looked longingly at those flats east of Whale Peak during a camp summit, gotta get out there. Best, Jim Same. Every time I am up there I say 'someday'...

6/3/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Rocko1 Posts: 632	Rocko1 Posts: 632 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 wrote: Rocko1 wrote: Very nice! And not many people which is an added bonus. Too bad about the hiking pole. I have snapped sections in the same manner. Yeah, I'll try to be a bit more careful next time. BTW, recently enjoyed watching a YT WolfeAdventures trip up to Villager/Rabbit! Oh glad you liked it!

5/26/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Upper June Wash ziphius wrote: Great trip Tom, the 'old way' was the best route. I've looked longingly at those flats east of Whale Peak during a camp summit, gotta get out there. Best, Jim Hi Ziphius, glad to hear you're still getting out. Take care! Tom

5/23/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash ziphius Posts: 912	ziphius Posts: 912 Topic: Upper June Wash Great trip Tom, the 'old way' was the best route. I've looked longingly at those flats east of Whale Peak during a camp summit, gotta get out there. Best, Jim

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