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38 min ago
Topic:
Peg Leg Smith Liar’s Contest. Venue Update

surfponto
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Hi All,
Diana Lindsay and Jim McKenna asked me to post information on this year's Peg Leg Smith's Liar's Contest. It has been moved since the original site is now on recently acquired State Park land.
I have yet to attend this but it looks like a great time.
See Below:


Peg Leg Smith Liar’s Contest- ‘Perpetuating Prevarication’

Date:
1st Saturday of April
April 7th, 2018
7pm

Location:
American Legion #853
4515 Borrego Springs Road
Borrego Springs, Ca. 92004


The 102nd Anniversary of the Peg Leg Smith Liar’s Contest will be held for the first time at the American Legion Post #853. This new location will afford the benefits of dinner prior to the contest if desired, and restroom facilities. The event has been held at the later to be named Thomas L. ‘Peg Leg’ Smith Monument at Peg Leg Road and Henderson Canyon since 1916, however the land and monument is now within the State Park. Being such, new regulations and restrictions made continuing at that site prohibitive. The Legion offered a far better venue and we, the organizing members of CACTI (Committee to Accumulate Curious Tales of Incredibility), were pleased to accept their generous offer.

The Contest is all about fun. Thomas L. Smith (1801-1866) was a notorious mountain man, guide, fur trapper, prospector, horse thief, and liar. As for his prospecting, the only truth known about his discoveries is he was in fact in the Borrego Springs area (1840’s), roamed the valley and Santa Rosa mountains, and reportedly discovered gold. He claimed to have found gold and dug a mine, but was forced to flee by local Indians. When he returned to mine his bounty, he could never find it again.

The Contest was an informal event held on different dates, by different individuals, until a group headed by early ‘Borego’ homesteader and Hollywood set designer Harry Oliver, along with Ray Hetherington who operated the Rock Shop at Knott’s Berry Farm, ‘formally’ made it an annual event in 1949. It continued until 1960, then was revived in 1975 under the leadership of Diana Lindsay. It has been an annual event ever since. This year’s Legion location event will be the 44th consecutive resurrection of the 102 year old event.

Briefly, here are the rules.......there are none! It’s a liar’s contest! One only needs to just sign up at the event and banter about how you found his gold, know where it is, there never was any gold, you have a map, aliens found it and took it back to planet Feces in the third nebula on the left of the fifth black hole.....or whatever you think will win you a recycled trophy and the honor of being champion prevaricator for 2018!

Judging is simple and straight forward. While you ‘can’ read it off a paper or notebook, reading makes it a story, not a lie. Quality humor, logic, illogic, falsehood or the unimaginable is always welcome and graded as such. You can speak it, shout it, rhyme it, sing it, humm it, or mime it.....or any other method you prefer. Authentic garb, be it western with chaps, boots, slicker, or perhaps a space suit, tuxedo, pajamas, or muumuu is welcomed and appreciated......but no nakedness please. Props are huge with us judges. Maps, picks and shovels, a grand piano, horse, gold nuggets for the audience....or whatever....we judges love appropriate and meaningful gadgets. One need not lie only by yourself. Team lying, muscical band lying, family lying are equally appreciated and crowd pleasers.

New to the Contest this year is a custom built chuck wagon. Located behind the campfire, it will make for an authentic western landscape. The fire will provide not only lighting, but hung over the flames will be pots of baked beans for all attendees to consume at the conclusion while the judges add up the scores and announce the winners. There are no losers at this contest, only appreciated participants. If you enjoy lying but don’t like the ramifications derived from doing so...this is the venue for you. We love liars!

The event is family oriented. There is a children’s class of competition as well, so no profanity or obscenity please. That’s all there is to it. Just simple, with no rules, falsehoods that make attendees chuckle on the way home.

For more information on the Contest and Thomas L. ‘Peg Leg’ Smith, google each to obtain fodder for your fabrications.
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1 hours ago
Topic:
Final Huell Howser Episode Has Been Discovered

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Saw this online.
Never did pick up that DVD but it would be interesting to see Huell's Howser's spin on it :-)
http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/lost-huell-howser/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqaFTa0eHxI
edited by surfponto on 2/23/2018
13 hours ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
rockhopper: I recognize the view to Mile High, but where is that boulder in relation to the Villager summit?
1 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

rockhopper
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Now that's how to exercise! With great views. Great trip. Nice photos.
edited by rockhopper on 2/21/2018
Some pics from my trip to Villager




edited by rockhopper on 2/21/2018
1 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge East Side

rockhopper
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Nice finds Gents!
Tommy: That's a fine arrow point there. Looks like it's made from Wonder stone. Found down near the Salton sink.
Daren: Do I see carbon staining on the granite? Looks like a fire pit? Nice BIG shards you found there. Old!
edited by rockhopper on 2/21/2018
3 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge East Side

tommy750
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Nice find, Daren.
3 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

Buford
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Glad I did it after looking at the route for the last year or so but never committing to it.

Almost to Pyramid:


Almost at Rosa:


The view from Rosa Point looking at Rabbit and Mile High:


Looking at Coyote from the Villager ridgeline:
4 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Buford wrote:
Tekewin’s post got me motivated enough to do the loop today. Thanks for posting the route!

Nice...Thumbs Up
4 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Buford wrote:
Tekewin’s post got me motivated enough to do the loop today. Thanks for posting the route!

Started at 6:45 am, a little later than planned.
Bagged Pyramid at 8:30 after a straight forward climb.
I was surprised at how good the use trail was going to Rosa.
Made it to Rosa Point about 10. The final stretch was rough.
Summited Mile High at noon.
Dropped down to the saddle at the top of Rattlesnake Canyon. Decided to hit the Villager ridge line for the superior views.
Climbed the Villager ridge line and topped out at 1:00.
Realized I was ahead of schedule and had plenty of food and water and could hit Villager again since it was only 1k of gain and a mile away, but then realized I was ahead of schedule and could get to Dudley’s before closing. Immediately went downhill and out.
Back At the car at 3:00, Dudley’s about 4:15.
No sheep on the hike, but plenty of signs of them. I did see a ram cross Montezuma grade this morning about 6:00 am.
Tons of roasting pits along the route.

There was an icy wind up high. I had to find a sheltered spot on each summit to sign the register and eat a snack. A couple gusts were strong enough to affect my footing. The cold wind helped cut down on water needs.

Edit, can’t get pictures to show up from mobile. I’ll add a few later.

edited by Buford on 2/18/2018
edited by Buford on 2/18/2018




Wow, you made awesome time. Well done!
4 days ago
Topic:
From The Unpublished Series

ziphius
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Very cool, our own little Death Valley. smile
4 days ago
Topic:
From The Unpublished Series

Buford
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Cool! It sure can get windy enough out there.
4 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

Buford
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Tekewin’s post got me motivated enough to do the loop today. Thanks for posting the route!

Started at 6:45 am, a little later than planned.
Bagged Pyramid at 8:30 after a straight forward climb.
I was surprised at how good the use trail was going to Rosa.
Made it to Rosa Point about 10. The final stretch was rough.
Summited Mile High at noon.
Dropped down to the saddle at the top of Rattlesnake Canyon. Decided to hit the Villager ridge line for the superior views.
Climbed the Villager ridge line and topped out at 1:00.
Realized I was ahead of schedule and had plenty of food and water and could hit Villager again since it was only 1k of gain and a mile away, but then realized I was ahead of schedule and could get to Dudley’s before closing. Immediately went downhill and out.
Back At the car at 3:00, Dudley’s about 4:15.
No sheep on the hike, but plenty of signs of them. I did see a ram cross Montezuma grade this morning about 6:00 am.
Tons of roasting pits along the route.

There was an icy wind up high. I had to find a sheltered spot on each summit to sign the register and eat a snack. A couple gusts were strong enough to affect my footing. The cold wind helped cut down on water needs.

Edit, can’t get pictures to show up from mobile. I’ll add a few later.

edited by Buford on 2/18/2018
edited by Buford on 2/18/2018
4 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge East Side

Britain
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Topic: Carrizo Gorge East Side
Nice find. In the general area of the stacked powder cans theres a large enclosure that has a complete bottom section to a bowl or vase. Then a lot of the smaller busted pieces. I sometimes wonder when you come across these pieces where the rest of them to complete the form they were.
4 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge East Side

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Topic: Carrizo Gorge East Side
Forgot I had this pic on my phone from an early morning exploration of some boulders, pretty big sherds....



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5 days ago
Topic:
From The Unpublished Series

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Topic: From The Unpublished Series
Another post in the "From The Unpublished Series" (search Forum titles for this)

Out near Carrizo Marsh I found the Anza Borrego Racetrack





5 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

Britain
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
tekewin wrote:
Britain: You planned out a nice loop route. My friend Eric Su descended the ridge between Gasp and Grunt and came back up on your route. The ridge up to Gasp from Grunt is about 1500'. The only comment he made about Grunt itself was that the cholla was thicker than around Groan/Gasp. Looking forward to your trip report smile



The only picture I've seen at Grunt was Cholla. Hazards of hiking. To get up to McCain is like doing Jacumba Mt from Montero only it throws everything at you in the first 2 miles. This is out of my league but must try.
edited by Britain on 2/17/2018
5 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

tekewin
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
Britain: You planned out a nice loop route. My friend Eric Su descended the ridge between Gasp and Grunt and came back up on your route. The ridge up to Gasp from Grunt is about 1500'. The only comment he made about Grunt itself was that the cholla was thicker than around Groan/Gasp. Looking forward to your trip report smile
5 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
Buford wrote:
Instead of topping out on the Gasp or Grunt ridgelines into the McCain area, I am pretty sure you can go almost straight between the two. It looked passable when I was on Gasp. I have not done Grunt.

I have done the Tule, Rozzie, Groan, Gasp loop similar to the one posted here:
http://www.peakbagger.com/climber/ascent.aspx?aid=376374
I will say it is quiet a climb out of the side canyon of the Gorge up Gasp. Nothing technical that I can remember though.
edited by Buford on 2/15/2018



Thanks, we'll take the Grunt ridge up first. At least we'll get Grunt. Canyon crossing is out I'm too old fer that. Our actual goal is more in getting to McCain. I feel If we can get there we can do the loop. I read your post on the Tule, Groan and Gasp its a bit too much for us. Perhaps Tule and Groan are in the books later. I spent a bit of time last week looking up the Grunt hill from the gorge its going to be tough for sure.
7 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

Buford
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
Instead of topping out on the Gasp or Grunt ridgelines into the McCain area, I am pretty sure you can go almost straight between the two. It looked passable when I was on Gasp. I have not done Grunt.

I have done the Tule, Rozzie, Groan, Gasp loop similar to the one posted here:
http://www.peakbagger.com/climber/ascent.aspx?aid=376374

I will say it is quiet a climb out of the side canyon of the Gorge up Gasp. Nothing technical that I can remember though.
edited by Buford on 2/15/2018
7 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

Britain
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
Thinking of this route. We'll see.

edited by Britain on 2/15/2018
7 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

Britain
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
tekewin wrote:
I did Gasp in Tule-Groan-Gasp loop, but not from the gorge.

Grunt BM is on my list. I was going to follow this GPS track staying on the north track in the wash as long as possible both up and down. There was a register there with only a few entries according to the last report.

http://peakbagger.com/climber/ascent.aspx?aid=619070


Umm didn't consider the wash to the north, will review. Looks like about 1/2 mile 600ft to Grunt at where you will need to exit the wash. Thanks for the information.
7 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

tekewin
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
I did Gasp in Tule-Groan-Gasp loop, but not from the gorge.

Grunt BM is on my list. I was going to follow this GPS track staying on the north track in the wash as long as possible both up and down. There was a register there with only a few entries according to the last report.

http://peakbagger.com/climber/ascent.aspx?aid=619070
7 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

Britain
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
dsefcik wrote:
mrkmc did something close

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic237-moan-puff-groan-and-gasp.aspx


Yes, I read that, he's a madman. That there was crazy. Wife and I are going to take a go at doing a loop of Grunt and Gasp in a couple weeks.
7 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

dsefcik
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
mrkmc did something close

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic237-moan-puff-groan-and-gasp.aspx
7 days ago
Topic:
Gasp and Grunt BM's

Britain
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Topic: Gasp and Grunt BM's
Has anyone come up from the gorge and get these? Thinking about doing a loop. Cant find much information on Grunt.

edited by Britain on 2/15/2018
8 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack

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Topic: Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack
Ziphius, any idea what kinda frog that is?
8 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack

ziphius
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Amazing that there is any water at all this winter. Nice trip report! Thanks for posting.
8 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack

Britain
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tekewin wrote:
South side of Jacumba Mountain? That's a lot of water. Need to study the maps more around that area. Awesome photos as usual.

Thanks, but actually its nowhere near Jacumba mountain. Canyon is about a mile from the dead end, west side, from where you can drive into Carrizo Gorge from S2.
edited by Britain on 2/14/2018
edited by Britain on 2/14/2018
8 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack

tekewin
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South side of Jacumba Mountain? That's a lot of water. Need to study the maps more around that area. Awesome photos as usual.
8 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack

Britain
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dsefcik wrote:
Damn I am ready to retire and spend more time out in the desert...envious....thanks for posting, like the frog shot...purple?

Slight purple and spotted
8 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack

dsefcik
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Topic: Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack
Damn I am ready to retire and spend more time out in the desert...envious....thanks for posting, like the frog shot...purple?
8 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba Jims and Jim McCains shack

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My wife left her trekking poles on the top of one of the north ridges above the canyon. Even though they were wally mart specials I went in yesterday and picked them up. While there I dug around the shack that's on the south side. Not much to see but here are the pictures. Not even sure if this was a McCain shack.

Old Bed frame
The usual suspects old wood, rusty iron, and old rusty cans laying about.
This must have been the roof section. I tapped it and heard a rattle under it, best leave this one be.
Some bones found which were not there the last time through. Lots of predators here. If your a wildlife photographer this is the place to camp out. Skull was about 4 or 5 inches across.
Creeks running high, probably from no evaporation.
Four frogs area? Perhaps there are some here.

edited by Britain on 2/14/2018
10 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Nice trip, Tekewin. Great pics as well. Have climbed exactly zero of those peaks so need to get busy.
10 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Buford wrote:
If I do the loop, the decision between heading down Rattlesnake or the Villager ridge will depend on what I see when I get there. I saw a report somewhere that Rattlesnake Canyon is passable all the eay down with a couple dry falls to contend with.


I think I saw your blog in the Goat BM register recently and just made the connection with the post here.



Bob Burd descended Rattlesnake Canyon, hit a few class 3 falls on the way down, but it didn't look too bad. Yeah, I did Goat last year in September. I felt really isolated out there, in a good way. Found a baby deer skull in one of the gullys.
10 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

Buford
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
If I do the loop, the decision between heading down Rattlesnake or the Villager ridge will depend on what I see when I get there. I saw a report somewhere that Rattlesnake Canyon is passable all the eay down with a couple dry falls to contend with.


I think I saw your blog in the Goat BM register recently and just made the connection with the post here.
10 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Rockhopper: I'm with you about awesome peaks of the Southern Santa Rosas. One I won't forget.

Buford: Thanks. Good luck with the loop to Mile High. Do you think you'll come down Villager Ridge from Mile High or down Rattlesnake Canyon?
10 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Nice work. That is a long, tough day. I have seen your signature in a couple remote registers in Borrego.

I have been planning on doing the same loop soon,minus Villager (already bagged it), if I can find the time and cooperative weather.
10 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

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Tekewin , I feel your hike was more aggressive. More elevation gain/loss and big mileage for a mostly rock scramble. You were using 11oz. of H2O per mile shows how rapid your pace was. You bagged some awesome peaks of the Southern Santa Rosas. Cheers!
edited by rockhopper on 2/12/2018
11 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

ziphius
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
I think you said it well when you referred to the black art of balancing weight vs water needs. I see the ultrarunners galloping up and down El Cajon Mountain with these tiny packs and seemingly no water... but they aren't out there for long either.
11 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

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ziphius wrote:
Nice trip! Amazing that there is still some water at Natural Rock Tanks. How much water did you actually carry with you? Read your blog too... my favorite electrolyte drink is 9/10 water + 1/10 orange juice + dash of table salt. The acidity of the O.J. is no problem because it is so dilute and it doesn't go bad in warm weather either. Again, impressive trip. - Jim



JIm: I carried 212 oz (6.2 liters / 13.25 pounds). That was combined water, propel water, and G2 gatorade. I also had a couple of salt pills (sodium/ potassium). Not sure if electrolytes were a bigger problem than lack of water. Never heard of that OJ trick, will keep it in mind. I've been in spots like that before and figured I could ration it, even though it was unpleasant. I envy ultra runners that get by with half the water I need.
11 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Nice trip! Amazing that there is still some water at Natural Rock Tanks. How much water did you actually carry with you? Read your blog too... my favorite electrolyte drink is 9/10 water + 1/10 orange juice + dash of table salt. The acidity of the O.J. is no problem because it is so dilute and it doesn't go bad in warm weather either. Again, impressive trip. - Jim
11 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Darren: I can only muster one or two attempts like this a year. I think it's been three years since I completed one this big.

rockhopper: Not quite the stats of Rabbit. I did need more water, but it's always a black art to figure out the trade off between extra weight, speed, and how much you need. I usually carry too much. Couldn't cache any because it was a loop. I planned to spend hours in the dark, so that wasn't a problem (as long I didn't see green eyeshine following me!).

Britain: Thanks! It pushed me in several ways.
No mylar balloons to my surprise, but I did collect a white running hat while climbing up to the Villager ridge from Mile High. Also found some kind of trashy romance paperback on a rock about a half mile from the road on the way back. I didn't touch it.
edited by tekewin on 2/11/2018
edited by tekewin on 2/11/2018
11 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

Britain
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Wow, fearsome hike. Congrats!
11 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

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That's one aggressive day hike! That is a lot of terrain to cover in a day. Wow! At least you can move quickly with a daypack and poles. Sounds like you wish you needed more H2O. We all wish we brought more water on desert hikes! Great trail report and photos. Reminds me of doing Rabbit peak in one day with no headlamp.
edited by rockhopper on 2/11/2018
12 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
Very nice...been a long time since I have done anything that ambitious, nice TR, thanks for sharing.
12 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid-Villager Loop

tekewin
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Topic: Pyramid-Villager Loop
The weather was favorable for a partial traverse of the Santa Rosa range crossing five peaks, four of them on the Sierra Club San Diego Peaks list. The plan was to start at the Villager trailhead, ascend Smoke Tree Canyon to the major ridge, then hit five peaks in this order:
  • Pyramid Peak (SDC #62)
  • Marble Peak (Unofficial)
  • Rosa Point (SDC #28, DPS #67, HPS #281)
  • Mile High Mountain (SDC #24)
  • Villager Peak (SDC #12, HPS #208)

  • I started and finished in the dark. I decided to back load the night hiking, figuring it would be easier to follow the VIllager trail down than ascend a canyon. I started at 5:45 AM, covering the mile or so up Palo Verde Canyon to the Smoke Tree Canyon split before sunrise. I made a short side trip to the Natural Rock Tanks. Despite the lack of rain, there was water in the first tank I visited. On Pyramid Peak, I had great views to Travelers Peak and Salton Sea. Next was the long 1700' climb to Rosa Point, one of the toughest sections of the day. I hunted around the long flat summit until I found the benchmark. It was about 100' southeast of the summit rocks in an open, flat area.





    Natural Rock Tank with water


    Travelers and Salton Sea


    Looking back from Rosa Point

    After a few false summits, I spotted Mile High Mountain. The terrain above 5000' started to change. Pines and junipers grew along with other shrubs missing from the lower desert slopes. The hardest part of the day was the 1000’ drop off Mile High then up an alluvial fan to the Villager Ridge. Mostly class 2 and 3. From there, I was only one mile and 500’ gain from Villager. The views into Clark Valley were stunning. I can see why Villager is so popular. I didn’t stay long because I only had an hour of daylight left.

    At sunset, I stopped to unpack lights (headlamp and flashlight) and take inventory. I was behind schedule, a mile in the air and 5 miles from the truck. Worse, I was dehydrated and down to 8 oz. of water. Despite drinking two bottles of water on the drive to the trailhead, I hadn't brought enough. None of the bars or food I had left was appealing, but I forced myself to eat something to power the descent. Thankfully, the trail remained clear and well defined. My knees, hips, and lower back all complained from accumulated minor insults. I thought I would be back at the car by 7:00 PM. When that time came, I was still 3 miles out, watching tiny headlights below dance along the S22. I had cell service so I texted my wife to let her know I was OK. When I reached the truck, I sat down to guzzle two bottles of water before starting the drive home. 19.2 miles, 7107’ gain, 14 hours 45 minutes. More gory details here.




    Villager from Mile High



    Mile High from the saddle


    Villager summit






    edited by tekewin on 2/10/2018
    13 days ago
    Topic:
    Carrizo Badlands

    tekewin
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    Topic: Carrizo Badlands
    Those photos, wow! Love the badlands.
    14 days ago
    Topic:
    Rock Oven? More Interesting Finds in the Desert...

    MarkG
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    Yeah, probably right. I had the impression that it didn't quite look historic but not entirely modern either. Perhaps it has seen many different uses over time... Still an interesting little find out there.
    15 days ago
    Topic:
    Rock Oven? More Interesting Finds in the Desert...

    dsefcik
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    Yep, have seen that also..was probably just a stash spot. There was some old metal cans and such also nearby.
    15 days ago
    Topic:
    Rock Oven? More Interesting Finds in the Desert...

    MarkG
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    Was rummaging through some photos I never did anything with and I came across these from a trip last year up to cottonwoods bench - found a little rock cubby. It looked too purposeful to have just happened by nature but then it could have been the hikers from the week before that laid the "door" where it was! No sign that fires were made inside it but maybe it would get warm in there with the summer sun beating down on it. This was in the hills southwest of the upper rockhouses heading toward Nicholias Canyon.

    A little rock "oven":


    A bit closer look:


    With the "door" propped open:
    15 days ago
    Topic:
    Salton Sea Naval Base

    Budman
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    Topic: Salton Sea Naval Base
    Yes Tommy,
    They are your photos...and great ones. I especially like the ones showing where the water level was of the ancient lake. I love to show friends the geologic wonders around here and will use these two photos especially.

    Thank you,
    Budman
    16 days ago
    Topic:
    Salton Sea Naval Base

    Britain
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    Topic: Salton Sea Naval Base
    tommy750 wrote:
    Did someone say "great photos"?? Maybe referring to my post here: http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic520-indio-fish-traps-and-sstb.aspx smile


    Walked the fish traps back in the 80's. With all the traffic in the area, I'm surprised they are still there. Nice photos on your other link.
    16 days ago
    Topic:
    Salton Sea Naval Base

    Britain
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    Topic: Salton Sea Naval Base
    Wheel with caution if your near the shore, may look good but once you break through the crust you can get stuck good.
    edited by Britain on 2/9/2018
    16 days ago
    Topic:
    Salton Sea Naval Base

    tommy750
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    tommy750
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    Topic: Salton Sea Naval Base
    Did someone say "great photos"?? Maybe referring to my post here: http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic520-indio-fish-traps-and-sstb.aspx smile
    16 days ago
    Topic:
    Salton Sea Naval Base

    Budman
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    Topic: Salton Sea Naval Base
    Thanks to all of you. My basic question is what is the best route, with the lease chances of getting stuck in the sand. With the comments, I have the answer.
    Bud
    16 days ago
    Topic:
    Salton Sea Naval Base

    cercidium
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    you might try some intrepid exploring to get to the base, as there's a way around the sand dune that's difficult to miss. alternately you can air your tires to 15psi and drive right over the dune with no concern of getting stuck. enjoy the journey!
    17 days ago
    Topic:
    Salton Sea Naval Base

    dsefcik
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    Topic: Salton Sea Naval Base
    It is not clear to me where you are asking about, can you provide a bit more detail?
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Hiking out of Los Coyotes Indian Reservation

    RobMay
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    tekewin wrote:
    I've hiked to Cody, Norte, Pike, Palm Mesa HP, and Square Top from there. Different 4x4 parking spots. Every time I've gone, usually early in the morning, but once late morning, there was nobody at the guard station. I think there is day hike fee, so I left money taped to the door in an envelope. I've read conflicting things about restrictions and maybe they have changed policies. I'd go early, be honest if stopped at the guard station, but otherwise go about your business.


    I don't feel comfortable going against the rules now that I know what they are. It's all go though, I've got my plan B in the works. I'm going to hike up Indian Creek and bag Pike & Cody and work my way East to bag Palm Mesa HP. Not sure if I'm going to turn it into a peakbagging frenzy along the ridge or just follow Borrego Palm Canyon out from middle fork. I'm playing it by ear. If its really windy or I'm low on water I'll drop down to middle fork for sure. Either way it's going to be a nice thru hike.
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Yaqui Hills rock shelter

    MarkG
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    It's just big enough for a person to sit in it cross-legged or with their knees up. It's not obvious from the angle of the photo but there's an opening, on the right side to walk into it. That's the side that's typically downwind so it seemed to make sense to me as a wind shelter.
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Gert BM

    Britain
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    Topic: Gert BM
    tekewin wrote:
    Wow, that looks pretty chancy. Very adventurous!


    Wife likes collecting the mylar balloons. 8 miles in there was a green one 1/2 mile away on the side of the hill. It was difficult talking her out of getting that one. She got 2 anyway.
    edited by Britain on 2/4/2018
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Gert BM

    tekewin
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    tekewin
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    Topic: Gert BM
    Wow, that looks pretty chancy. Very adventurous!
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Gert BM

    Britain
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    Topic: Gert BM
    Before we climbed out of the badlands my wife dug around in the slots. Tried climbing up to the pole on top. There's a lot of these slots/notches all over. Some fun if you like playing in them. Had to drag her out to continue the journey. In the picture shes just below the pole, to the left.
    edited by Britain on 2/4/2018
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Gert BM

    Britain
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    Topic: Gert BM
    tekewin wrote:
    Sweet. Are those mud hills solid or can they collapse into caves?


    Really loose dirt just like the stuff in the mud hills. Lots of deep cut slots. I will guess there are caves about.
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Hiking out of Los Coyotes Indian Reservation

    tekewin
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    I've hiked to Cody, Norte, Pike, Palm Mesa HP, and Square Top from there. Different 4x4 parking spots. Every time I've gone, usually early in the morning, but once late morning, there was nobody at the guard station. I think there is day hike fee, so I left money taped to the door in an envelope. I've read conflicting things about restrictions and maybe they have changed policies. I'd go early, be honest if stopped at the guard station, but otherwise go about your business.
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Gert BM

    tekewin
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    tekewin
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    Topic: Gert BM
    Sweet. Are those mud hills solid or can they collapse into caves?
    18 days ago
    Topic:
    Salton Sea Naval Base

    Budman
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    Topic: Salton Sea Naval Base
    I am new to the forum but excited to joint. I want to plan a trip to the old Salton Sea Naval Auxillary Base. I would be using my 4X4 Jeep Wrangler Sport. I know there is a rather large dune sitting in the road off 86 on the south side of the base. Any recommendations as to the best way to get to the base would be great. I saw some great photos of the base on this site a few days ago and can't seem to find them again.
    Thanks,
    Bud
    19 days ago
    Topic:
    Gert BM

    dsefcik
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    Topic: Gert BM
    Thumbs Up
    19 days ago
    Topic:
    Gert BM

    ziphius
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    ziphius
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    Topic: Gert BM
    Nice trip. Never been to that BM. smile
    19 days ago
    Topic:
    Gert BM

    Britain
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    Topic: Gert BM
    Went out after the Gert BM through the badlands east of Lost. Temperatures were high 80's low 90's so it added to the adventure. Up this , it was only 200ft to get up on South Mesa. 30ft from the top became an issue. Steep mud cave stuff. 3 feet forward 2 feet slip back. Wife beat me up. I took a route on the west side. I'll call this hill "Hill full of hate" .
    Upon the ridge of South Mesa finally. Looking back to Carrizo Creek.
    Me looking back down. Theres a pole behind me. I think it marks the way down that is safe.
    Gert BM. Theres 3 of them but heres one of them. Sure was warm out today.
    20 days ago
    Topic:
    Drone use in the Park

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    Topic: Drone use in the Park
    Recently posted on the park FB page.

    We would like to remind all park visitors the flying of any unmanned aircraft including drones is prohibited per California Code of Regulations 4326(a) Posted Order in the Colorado Desert District including Anza-Borrego Desert State Park®, Cuyamaca Rancho State Park, Palomar Mountain State Park, Salton Sea State Recreation Area, Picacho State Recreation Area, and Indio Hills Palms Property.
    21 days ago
    Topic:
    Yaqui Hills rock shelter

    rockhopper
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    Looks almost like a fire ring. Can a person down in it? What a glorious day!
    24 days ago
    Topic:
    Hiking out of Los Coyotes Indian Reservation

    RobMay
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    From what I've learned, they have changed their rules often over the years. The ranger mentioned that they'd probably reopen the 4x4 roads in the near future because that was their money maker.

    MarkG wrote:
    I know it has said in the FAQ on their website for some time that the only designated trail is to Hot Springs Mountain

    http://www.loscoyotestribe.com/faq/
    24 days ago
    Topic:
    Hiking out of Los Coyotes Indian Reservation

    MarkG
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    I know it has said in the FAQ on their website for some time that the only designated trail is to Hot Springs Mountain

    http://www.loscoyotestribe.com/faq/
    24 days ago
    Topic:
    Hiking out of Los Coyotes Indian Reservation

    RobMay
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    Saturday I was talking to a ranger at the reservation and he told me that the only hiking allowed on the reservation is to Hot Springs Mountain. I had gone there to hike Cody, Pike, and Palm Mesa HP. I explained that I was following gps tracks and that people have been doing it for years. He said that they must have lied about what they were doing when they entered the park. I doubt this since there is rarely anyone at the entrance and the park map that they have hanging in the office window shows hiking/4x4 trails all over the park. Currently all 4x4 trails are closed to vehicles but he said I couldn't even hike there from the campgrounds. Did anyone else know about this? Did I ask too many questions? I was just trying to make sure I wasn't trespassing.

    To hike up to those peaks from Palm canyon looks like a brutal day hike. I'm thinking about a 2 day backpacking trip. Has anyone done this before?
    25 days ago
    Topic:
    Yaqui Hills rock shelter

    surfponto
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    Topic: Yaqui Hills rock shelter
    Looks like a beautiful day out there.
    25 days ago
    Topic:
    Yaqui Hills rock shelter

    MarkG
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    I went for a small, 2-balloon day hike in the Yaqui Hills today and came across this neat little one-man rock shelter. Since I live in Borrego Springs and I can hike these hills right from my front door I tend to pass them over too often, looking for more of a "get-away" place to hike. But really there are a lot of little treasures to be found in these hills and I don't think I've ever run into another hiker out there.


    edited by MarkG on 1/28/2018
    26 days ago
    Topic:
    More Impossible RR News

    Britain
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    Topic: More Impossible RR News
    Theres a picture of some hikers down in the Gorge today showing a truck on the tracks around the 7 sisters.
    26 days ago
    Topic:
    Drone use in the Park

    Borregolinda
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    kylekai wrote:
    I continue to see drone use videos at YouTube. I add a comment about drones being illegal at the park, but is there much else that can be done when I see these videos? Ironically I was pointed to one from the SoCal Off Road Recovery FaceBook page that was referred to me somewhere on this forum: https://youtu.be/1WKfqw_w_-0
    Nice video, but I'd hate to hear that thing buzzing around me if I was there.



    Been hearing on scanner lately Rangers stopping folks with them. So few Rangers to cover so much though. I don’t want to hear them over me either.
    26 days ago
    Topic:
    Drone use in the Park

    kylekai
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    kylekai
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    Topic: Drone use in the Park
    I continue to see drone use videos at YouTube. I add a comment about drones being illegal at the park, but is there much else that can be done when I see these videos? Ironically I was pointed to one from the SoCal Off Road Recovery FaceBook page that was referred to me somewhere on this forum: https://youtu.be/1WKfqw_w_-0
    Nice video, but I'd hate to hear that thing buzzing around me if I was there.
    29 days ago
    Topic:
    Carrizo Badlands

    Britain
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    Topic: Carrizo Badlands
    Thanks more history to review.
    29 days ago
    Topic:
    Carrizo Badlands

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    Topic: Carrizo Badlands
    Britain wrote:
    Looks like we took the same route, some of your pictures look like mine. Couple questions. Have you ever came across a rock-cement monument about 4 ft high with a plaque Carrizo Stage station on it? There was one in the area in 2000. If I remember correctly its not near the real station. Also there's another structure I spotted. Would this be McCains place? Have you seen it? It is located about 1000ft west and slightly south of the real station. EDIT: shack does not appear on earlier GE images.



    Haven't seen the monument and not sure where it might be. The old Graves cabin's roof collapsed some time ago and a new roof was placed over it in the last year or so presumably to protect this historical site. You can see a fair amount of junk was also removed at the same time if you blink between the last couple GE images. Tom
    29 days ago
    Topic:
    Carrizo Badlands

    Britain
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    Topic: Carrizo Badlands
    Looks like we took the same route, some of your pictures look like mine. Couple questions. Have you ever came across a rock-cement monument about 4 ft high with a plaque Carrizo Stage station on it? There was one in the area in 2000. If I remember correctly its not near the real station. Also theres another structure I spotted. Would this be McCains place? Have you seen it? It is located about 1000ft west and slightly south of the real station. EDIT: shack does not appear on earlier GE images.



    edited by Britain on 1/24/2018
    edited by Britain on 1/24/2018
    edited by Britain on 1/24/2018
    1/23/2018
    Topic:
    Wile E Coyote

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    Topic: Wile E Coyote
    Photos are taken from Leckie BM. They were also chainsawing the stuff out in the Creek.

    edited by Britain on 1/23/2018
    1/20/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    rockhopper
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    El Zorro!
    1/20/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    Britain
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    The fox was eyeing something when I interrupted. I took about 20 quick shots and continued my journey.
    edited by Britain on 1/20/2018
    1/20/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    Britain
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    dsefcik wrote:
    Britain wrote:
    Thanks, Early morning shot. Taken about 1/4 mile out of the swamp from Carrizo Creek . Seen a lot of wildlife in the area which I haven't noticed before.

    Ah...saw the long shadows, figured maybe the fox was coming out for the evening, that is the only time I have seen them.

    Heck, I've only seen 3 of them for all the time I've been out here.
    1/20/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    dsefcik
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    Britain wrote:
    Thanks, Early morning shot. Taken about 1/4 mile out of the swamp from Carrizo Creek . Seen a lot of wildlife in the area which I haven't noticed before.

    Ah...saw the long shadows, figured maybe the fox was coming out for the evening, that is the only time I have seen them.
    1/19/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    tommy750
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    Awesome pic!
    1/19/2018
    Topic:
    More Impossible RR News

    Britain
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    Topic: More Impossible RR News
    Somebody is going need to pump some serious cash into the gorge area. But then again it will be cool to go in and see a load of Tacomas scattered about. smile
    1/19/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    Britain
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    dsefcik wrote:
    Nice kit fox, was towards the end of day?

    Thanks, Early morning shot. Taken about 1/4 mile out of the swamp from Carrizo Creek . Seen a lot of wildlife in the area which I haven't noticed before. May go tag Leckie early morning, get up on the cliffs southside and wait to see what moves about.
    edited by Britain on 1/19/2018
    1/19/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    ziphius
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    Nice fox!
    1/19/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    dsefcik
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    Nice kit fox, was towards the end of day?
    1/18/2018
    Topic:
    Red Dawn sort of

    ziphius
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    Topic: Red Dawn sort of
    Fun!
    1/18/2018
    Topic:
    Red Dawn sort of

    Britain
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    Britain
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    Topic: Red Dawn sort of
    Heard some helicopter noise, the Marines were playing in the badlands. Once the saw me the took off over towards South Mesa. Was pretty fun.
    1/18/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    Britain
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    Went back in today. Didnt find any mines geology is a lot of that mud cave stuff.
    1/18/2018
    Topic:
    Carrizo Creek, BM LOST and South Mesa

    Britain
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    BTY I did find a path up through the badland to south mesa. Theres a pole or something on the top. I think its a marker for the way. For me it opens up South mesa and Red Canyon beyond.
    1/18/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    tommy750
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    Not a geologist, but doesn't look like the most promising prospect!
    1/18/2018
    Topic:
    Carrizo Gorge East Side

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    DHeuschele wrote:
    I saw a lantern last year that had maybe 20 dead lizards in it (I do not think I took a picture). Apparently the lizards had no problem finding their way into it but could not find their way out.
    I did a 12 day backpack in NM in late summer. One of the boys found a spear head that was in similar shape to that arrow head (both are in near the shape at the time of the creation). I did shoot a photo of the spear head as it was special because I have not personally found a spear head and it was in great condition. You found a very nice arrow head.


    Those darn predator traps! Have rescued a couple snakes and lizards from some in the past. Finding points these days is always nice since most have already walked away. Spear points/darts are an especially nice find.
    1/18/2018
    Topic:
    Carrizo Gorge East Side

    DHeuschele
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    I saw a lantern last year that had maybe 20 dead lizards in it (I do not think I took a picture). Apparently the lizards had no problem finding their way into it but could not find their way out.
    I did a 12 day backpack in NM in late summer. One of the boys found a spear head that was in similar shape to that arrow head (both are in near the shape at the time of the creation). I did shoot a photo of the spear head as it was special because I have not personally found a spear head and it was in great condition. You found a very nice arrow head.
    1/18/2018
    Topic:
    Interesting oddity in the Carrizo Creek Badlands.

    Britain
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    rockhopper wrote:
    Looks like a claim marker. You see them all over the south west deserts out in the middle of nowhere.

    Yes most likely is but I'm hoping for a zip line smile




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