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2 hours ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Always love your photos Tom.
Thanks for sharing
2 hours ago
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To the top of El Cajon Mountain aka "The Beast"

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Good job! Not an easy one.
We are planning on doing it again to prepare for our 3rd Mt. Whitney trip
11 hours ago
Topic:
To the top of El Cajon Mountain aka "The Beast"

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ziphius wrote:
100th ascent today. No mishaps in 100 trips up and down the mountain, even in 90-degree heat.
Applause
Congratulations, well done...!!
11 hours ago
Topic:
To the top of El Cajon Mountain aka "The Beast"

ziphius
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100th ascent today. No mishaps in 100 trips up and down the mountain, even in 90-degree heat.
1 days ago
Topic:
No Big Horn this year seen during hiking

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So far, seven trips to the desert this year, zero bighorn spotted.
1 days ago
Topic:
No Big Horn this year seen during hiking

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Saw three on Sunset Peak a few months ago saw one in Split Mountain before the anticline last Wednesday.
1 days ago
Topic:
No Big Horn this year seen during hiking

Buford
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I bet bighorn have seen you.

I have seen sheep in Indian Gorge and crossing Montezuma Grade this year. I am sure they have spotted me on more occasions.
2 days ago
Topic:
No Big Horn this year seen during hiking

Britain
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Put about 150 miles plus on the desert this year. Seen a lot of animals but no Bighorn. Has anyone seen any this year? This weekend went out in the Jeep did 3 separate 2 milers each, just checking out next year prospects. Was in the mid to high 90's.. Did find a spring. Looks like it was used for by some ranchers at some time. The grass was green around it but I didn't dig around to confirm water.


5 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

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Topic: Sunset Mountain
Britain wrote:

When I was coming down from my failed attempt of Gasp, I was in a steep downward hill. I had a 2 foot drop so I dropped my pole down to steady myself so I could leap down. The hill under my pole gave way and I flipped over and skidded down on my pack for about 10 ft. Ended up in a comfortable position and did a prayer that it didn't break anything. Wonder if theres any other opps on trek poles out there.


Ouch. Glad that ended OK.
5 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
dsefcik wrote:
Photo by tommy750


I dont know about this. Deflated ninja blow-up doll and a Patron find? What could go wrong?
5 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Photo by tommy750

5 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

Britain
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Topic: Sunset Mountain
tekewin wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice day hike with fantastic views. Thanks for sharing. I hope you were using hiking poles going down!



Yes, I almost always use one pole. An exception would be a hike that's all trail, but that doesn't happen very often. Knees were still sore for a while after the descent.

When I was coming down from my failed attempt of Gasp, I was in a steep downward hill. I had a 2 foot drop so I dropped my pole down to steady myself so I could leap down. The hill under my pole gave way and I flipped over and skidded down on my pack for about 10 ft. Ended up in a comfortable position and did a prayer that it didn't break anything. Wonder if theres any other opps on trek poles out there.
5 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Britain wrote:
Patron good find. I'm still looking for some !




I think Daren, uh, I mean an unknown hiker, has a nose for fine tequila smile
5 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

tekewin
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Topic: Sunset Mountain
rockhopper wrote:
Nice day hike with fantastic views. Thanks for sharing. I hope you were using hiking poles going down!



Yes, I almost always use one pole. An exception would be a hike that's all trail, but that doesn't happen very often. Knees were still sore for a while after the descent.
5 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Patron good find. I'm still looking for some !
6 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

rockhopper
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Topic: Sunset Mountain
Nice day hike with fantastic views. Thanks for sharing. I hope you were using hiking poles going down!
6 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Unfortunately, "Plan E" was unsuccessful in finding the lost cave. The Sawtooth Mts are pretty spectacular IMHO though.

Was able to photograph a hiker who wished to remain anonymous shortly after discovering an extremely rare glass olla. An exciting moment for sure.

Glass Olla by tomteske, on Flickr

Overlooking Canebrake.

Daren on the Sawtooth Spine by tomteske, on Flickr

On the spine of the Sawtooth Mts.

Sawtooth Spine Slot by tomteske, on Flickr
6 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

tekewin
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Topic: Sunset Mountain
Views exceeded expectations, but so did difficulty of the west slope. Beautiful mountain, and thankfully the route was not any longer.
7 days ago
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Exploring Coyote Canyon w/o 4wd or High Clearance

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Seems like it has been good this year but you can always just give the VC a call (760) 767-4205
7 days ago
Topic:
Exploring Coyote Canyon w/o 4wd or High Clearance

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Anyone know how the road to sheep canyon campground is now?
7 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

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Topic: Sunset Mountain
I'm with Tom, only been to the guzzlers....still on my list, looks like some great views up there....Thumbs Up
7 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
ziphius wrote:
Art Bell died on Friday, April 13th, so your proposed outing takes on extra importance.

Yep, we did go back out on Sat/Sun and briefly listened to an Art Bell episode on my phone. Maybe Tom can post some pics, I only have a few from my phone. It was fairly uneventful though.





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7 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Sunset Mountain
Nice trip report. Can confirm the footing is sketchy on that slope.
7 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

ziphius
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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Art Bell died on Friday, April 13th, so your proposed outing takes on extra importance.

tommy750 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Love the snake/scorpion photos...sorry I could not join you....lets do another trip soon with an over nighter...I'll bring the marshmallows and Art Bell entertainment....


S'mores! That sounds like a plan.
8 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

tommy750
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Topic: Sunset Mountain
Great views from up there, Tekewin. Only made it up to the two nearby guzzlers before crapping out a while back. Thanks for posting. Tom
9 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

Britain
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Topic: Sunset Mountain
Nice, Been wanting to get that one. Thanks for the share.
10 days ago
Topic:
Sunset Mountain

tekewin
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Topic: Sunset Mountain
I drove up Pinyon Wash to get as close as I could to the west side of Sunset mountain. From my parking spot, I walked a half mile across the flat desert toward the western slopes. The thorny population consisted mostly of cholla, agave, ocotillo, and barrel cactus, in that order of frequency. After ascending the main wash a short distance, I started up a slope on the left. The angles were steep and the non-boulder sections were decomposed granite. The chossy crust on the dirt often gave way. Class 2 boulder sections came up now and then and were a welcome oasis of stability. Route finding was mentally taxing. In addition to avoiding the cactus and agave, almost every step required careful attention. It was slow, steady progress kept manageable by the short distance.








I hit the edge of the northwest ridge and was greeted with awesome views into Lower Borrego Valley. A short time later, I was on the summit. The benchmark and register were about 25' from the highest boulder. The benchmark was stamped "Yak". On top, wind blew steadily with gusts in the 25mph range. There were several books in the register cans and I signed the latest one before packing up and heading down out of the wind. When the wind was still, nothing moved and nothing made a sound. I'm used to being alone on remote desert peaks and the silence was notable, almost unnatural. I was glad to get down without a fall. 4 miles round trip, 2000' gain, 4 hours.





Lower Borrego Valley and the Borrego Mountains below





Looking south over the Vallecito Mountains


Descending back to Pinyon Wash
13 days ago
Topic:
Awesome Trip report

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Topic: Awesome Trip report
ziphius wrote:
A billiard table at Dos Cabezas. Now I can say I've seen everything.


Haha. That table was put there around March 11 judging by the signatures on it. We played a round after a hike when we stumbled on it. The surface isn’t exactly flat. It was surreal to play a game of pool out there Toast
13 days ago
Topic:
Awesome Trip report

ziphius
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ziphius
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A billiard table at Dos Cabezas. Now I can say I've seen everything.
13 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

rockhopper
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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Excellent photography Tommy. Those rattlers look healthy. The "Lost" archeology site sound intriguing. Great trip report.
thanks for posting.



Supposedly there's a lost cave out somewhere in the Sawtooth Mts. Have made four trips so far and found only about three pieces of pottery but had fun doing it. Pretty confident "Plan E" is going to bring success smile


Tommy,
Best of luck finding the "Lost Cave". Sounds like you are getting close.
Cheers
14 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

Britain
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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
tommy750 wrote:
Britain wrote:
Nice photos. Second snake didnt look like a red. This is one area I would like to visit. Have noticed that the ticks are pretty active this year.



I'm guessing the first snake was a Western Diamondback and the second was a Sidewinder but I though that bird was a burrowing owl so... Not really sure how to tell a Western from a Red since the Western can kind of look a little reddish I hear. Any thoughts?

Didn't get any ticks but it was really windy when I got into brush if that matters.


I'm no expert on them snakes but the first one looks like a red. The second one did it have horns on its face? The scorpion shot is terrific!
14 days ago
Topic:
Awesome Trip report

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Topic: Awesome Trip report
This is an amazing trip to check out

https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/29610085.cfm
14 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
rockhopper wrote:
Excellent photography Tommy. Those rattlers look healthy. The "Lost" archeology site sound intriguing. Great trip report.
thanks for posting.



Supposedly there's a lost cave out somewhere in the Sawtooth Mts. Have made four trips so far and found only about three pieces of pottery but had fun doing it. Pretty confident "Plan E" is going to bring success smile
14 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

tommy750
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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Britain wrote:
Nice photos. Second snake didnt look like a red. This is one area I would like to visit. Have noticed that the ticks are pretty active this year.



I'm guessing the first snake was a Western Diamondback and the second was a Sidewinder but I though that bird was a burrowing owl so... Not really sure how to tell a Western from a Red since the Western can kind of look a little reddish I hear. Any thoughts?

Didn't get any ticks but it was really windy when I got into brush if that matters.
14 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Britain wrote:
Have noticed that the ticks are pretty active this year.
Yep, I got a few a couple weeks ago on our 4 day trip out to McCain/Canebrake....but we were bushwhacking a lot.....a lot, a lot.....
14 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

Britain
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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Nice photos. Second snake didnt look like a red. This is one area I would like to visit. Have noticed that the ticks are pretty active this year.
14 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

rockhopper
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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Excellent photography Tommy. Those rattlers look healthy. The "Lost" archeology site sound intriguing. Great trip report.
thanks for posting.
14 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

tommy750
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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
tekewin wrote:
Double rattlesnakes! And a scorpion bonus. What a great day. I still have about zero knowledge of native american artifacts, so the shelter with prayer sticks wouldn't have even registered as anything but natural to me. I wonder how many things I've walked by and didn't appreciate. Thanks for the great report.


Well, Tekewin, you at the right place! Never paid any attention to cultural stuff till stumbling on this forum a few years back. Kudos to all the posters who expend the time and energy to educate the rest of us.
14 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

tekewin
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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Double rattlesnakes! And a scorpion bonus. What a great day. I still have about zero knowledge of native american artifacts, so the shelter with prayer sticks wouldn't have even registered as anything but natural to me. I wonder how many things I've walked by and didn't appreciate. Thanks for the great report.
16 days ago
Topic:
Yuha basin petrified wood

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tommy750 wrote:
Thanks for the Yuha Man link. Interesting story. The bones disappeared and have never been found. However, a few tiny fragments were recovered and dated to a later time. A hearth dated to 9000 BP was uncovered a few years back near Jacumba so aboriginals have been around the Colorado Desert for some time.

Seems like a shame to lose what they uncovered.
16 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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dsefcik wrote:
Love the snake/scorpion photos...sorry I could not join you....lets do another trip soon with an over nighter...I'll bring the marshmallows and Art Bell entertainment....



S'mores! That sounds like a plan.
16 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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ziphius wrote:
Nice photos Tommy. It is impressive how that saddle between Canebrake and Vallecito is so hard-used, but it makes sense along the Pepperwood route. I've been up and over that a couple of times now but never ran into the prayer-stick cave. One of my favorite views looking north in the Potrero from that saddle. That last photo looks odd for an owl - I want to say it is a whippoorwill or nighthawk, but it's hard to tell from the photo. Nice trip / photos as always. - Jim


Owl was the only thing I could think of Jim. Have no idea what it was. Thanks!
16 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Topic: The Potrero Day Hike
Love the snake/scorpion photos...sorry I could not join you....lets do another trip soon with an over nighter...I'll bring the marshmallows and Art Bell entertainment....
16 days ago
Topic:
Santa Rosa Mtns. 3 Day backpack

ziphius
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Love the old frame pack, I still have my Kelty that gets some use. Slowing down and getting to know an area is the way to go! But you definitely paid your dues to get there. Amazing what we walk past when we're trying to get the mile in, heh? Nice trip.
16 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Nice photos Tommy. It is impressive how that saddle between Canebrake and Vallecito is so hard-used, but it makes sense along the Pepperwood route. I've been up and over that a couple of times now but never ran into the prayer-stick cave. One of my favorite views looking north in the Potrero from that saddle. That last photo looks odd for an owl - I want to say it is a whippoorwill or nighthawk, but it's hard to tell from the photo. Nice trip / photos as always. - Jim
16 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero Day Hike

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Have done a few hike in the past couple years to the Sawtooth Mountains looking for a "lost" archeological site. No luck so far but always great hiking in the desert. Was planning an overnight out there with Daren et al but other plans/weather intervened and ended up on a day hike. Parked at the equestrian staging area by Vallecito and paid my $3 and headed toward Potrero. Lots of old ranching and farming stuff along the way.

Potrero by tomteske, on Flickr

About six miles in is a nice water source and still producing.

Full by tomteske, on Flickr

Hiked up to the saddle between Canebrake and Potrero. Was bushwhacking up to the saddle till I found an immigrant/game trail. Lots of old cans in a couple places.

Feliz by tomteske, on Flickr


Well Worn by tomteske, on Flickr

Nice views on top with a constant 25-30 mph breeze. This is toward Pepperwood Canyon on the far side of Canebrake.


Toward Pepperwood by tomteske, on Flickr

Toward the Lagunas.

South of Saddle by tomteske, on Flickr

Found a rock shelter on the very top of the saddle with a bunch of prayer sticks.

Prayer Sticks by tomteske, on Flickr

Almost stepped on this guy near the top. Didn't move at all.

Western Diamondback by tomteske, on Flickr

Nice views of Potrero/Vallecito on the way down.

Potrero Pano by tomteske, on Flickr

Have found a few moteros in the area interestingly ringed with cupules. Kinda hard to see in this pic.

Mortero with Cupules by tomteske, on Flickr

Another nearby one from a previous hike.


Cupule Rock by tomteske, on Flickr

Walked in the dark a couple miles on the way back till turning my headlamp on a few minutes before stumbling into this guy. This guy was also pretty lethargic. Both snakes look pretty well fed. Saw lots of kangaroo rats jumping around so they certainly have lots of food.

Sidewinder by tomteske, on Flickr

Couple more critters before I made it back. Brought 5L and used 4.5. 16.5 miles and 2800ft g/l and another great day in the desert. Enjoy. Tom

Scorpion by tomteske, on Flickr


Going Home by tomteske, on Flickr


Owl by tomteske, on Flickr
edited by tommy750 on 4/8/2018
edited by tommy750 on 4/8/2018
edited by tommy750 on 4/8/2018
16 days ago
Topic:
Yuha basin petrified wood

tommy750
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Thanks for the Yuha Man link. Interesting story. The bones disappeared and have never been found. However, a few tiny fragments were recovered and dated to a later time. A hearth dated to 9000 BP was uncovered a few years back near Jacumba so aboriginals have been around the Colorado Desert for some time.
16 days ago
Topic:
Santa Rosa Mtns. 3 Day backpack

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Looks like a great trip Rockhopper. Nice petro find. I'm with Daren on the pack weight. I get cranky with anything over 30lbs smile
17 days ago
Topic:
Santa Rosa Mtns. 3 Day backpack

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dsefcik wrote:
Not sure I would make it even 5 miles with a 60lb pack..! Good to see you getting out again, thanks for sharing.


Daren, Originally my pack weighed 65 lbs. I trimmed it down a bit. haha. Problem is every where I want to go now has no water! It's the water weight. On a normal trip with springs available my pack would be in the 40 lb. weight. Also I carry a plush 2" pad, ground tarp, and med. weight tent. So I can get a good nite sleep. I too have had back problems, so I hear ya. Get better soon!
Here are a couple more pics. from the trip.
The only water source is underground but too deep to dig for my time there.





Fault strand that pushed up the Santa Rosas.





Some more Glyph pics. the more I look , the more I see. I must have hiked by hundreds of glyphs in the past.









edited by rockhopper on 4/7/2018
edited by rockhopper on 4/7/2018
17 days ago
Topic:
Yuha basin petrified wood

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In the 60's the BLM categorized items in the YUHA. Some of the items they fenced of to prevent off-roaders from destroying. Smaller items were stolen. This forest runs south of the shell beds for miles. Something flooded this area over night so to speak and buried eveything. In the washed trees and bones are being exposed. The Yuha man which was found now is estimated to be around 5K years old. Originally they had 20K years. Some cool stuff in the Yuha. Red canyon which is north east of the Carrizo creek stage station about 5 miles has more logs, big ones. They will be more protected because of the bombing area restrictions and isolation. Theres a lot of fossils also. Looks like some hikers uncovered some old fossils in the slots a bit west Coyotes. I just love hiking the desert here. So much to see and learn.
17 days ago
Topic:
Yuha basin petrified wood

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Britain wrote:
Try and get out to the Yuha Basin once a year. The previous summer thunderstorms will sometimes expose cool stuff. A few years ago I found a line of vertebrae, the largest chunk was about 6 inch in diameter, I snagged a 2 inch piece perhaps a trail. Those have fallen off the wash face and disappeared most likely crushed by wheelers. Heres some pics of petrified wood that's there.
I'm guessing the trees were about 3 or 4 feet in diameter.



A reminder of a time 2-4 million years ago that area was covered with rivers, streams, forests and big game. Walnut, Ash, Laurel, palm, avocado, mandrone covered the area. Before that an inland ocean.
17 days ago
Topic:
Yuha basin petrified wood

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Britain wrote:
The Yuha Man. Some good reading. These ramains are old.
https://ia600309.us.archive.org/11/items/preliminaryrepor00bark/preliminaryrepor00bark.pdf[/quote]
I firmly believe early man passed thru California much much earlier than accepted consensus. The difficulty is that 99.9% of the evidence is either buried on shore or buried off shore when sea levels were much lower. Go to Google Earth and look at the continental shelf. Way out there. That's were the earliest man evidence is. They followed the coast down 100,000's years ago and went up almost every fresh water creek or river. Unless exposed by erosion or excavated the facts are out there. Divers are always finding metates ginding stones off shore of ancestral creeks. Also back then ABSP area was much wetter and greener.
19 days ago
Topic:
Yuha basin petrified wood

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The Yuha Man. Some good reading. These ramains are old.
https://ia600309.us.archive.org/11/items/preliminaryrepor00bark/preliminaryrepor00bark.pdf
19 days ago
Topic:
Yuha basin petrified wood

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tommy750 wrote:
Not a geologist but what I'm seeing looks more like concretions. They're quite common all through ABDSP and surrounding areas and at times can sure look like petrified wood or bone. Yuha has pretty much been devastated by off roaders over the decades including the Yuha geoglyphs, trashed by some dirt bikers in the mid '70s. Jay von Werlhof tried to piece them back together but they're nothing like the old aerial photos. There's still a couple nice ones out there semi protected by their fencing and findable on GE.
edited by tommy750 on 4/5/2018

Its a tree. You need to see it. One year many small animals were exposed in the face of the wash. There was a forest of some type here. Theres bigger chunks that were fenced off but were stolen.

Most of the forest runs on the south side of the shell beds in a east west direction for miles. The picture above used to be a log that was about 4 feet long 3 feet in diameter. The bone picture could be a concretion.
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Not a geologist but what I'm seeing looks more like concretions. They're quite common all through ABDSP and surrounding areas and at times can sure look like petrified wood or bone. Yuha has pretty much been devastated by off roaders over the decades including the Yuha geoglyphs, trashed by some dirt bikers in the mid '70s. Jay von Werlhof tried to piece them back together but they're nothing like the old aerial photos. There's still a couple nice ones out there semi protected by their fencing and findable on GE.
edited by tommy750 on 4/5/2018
20 days ago
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FYI I did stop by the BLM and talked to Carrie. They just did some recent restore to the area around the shell bed. She wasnt happy hearing about the all-terrain vehicle damage. She would notify their law enforcement side. Apparent there may be some research digs in the near future in the area.
20 days ago
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Yuha basin petrified wood

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Sweet! I keep learning about new stuff on this forum.
20 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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Nice. I recognize 3053 in those pictures near Moan.
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Well, there used to be 2 large logs with fences around them, about 5 years ago they were taken. The all-terrain vehicle damage is really bad this year. There was/is a lady at the BLM in El Centro that had a lot to do with the Yuha. I may file a complaint. Doubt they will do anything though.
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Yuha basin petrified wood

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That's pretty interesting, I wouldn't mind going out to see that stuff...will have to talk Tom into going....wink
21 days ago
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Santa Rosa Mtns. 3 Day backpack

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Not sure I would make it even 5 miles with a 60lb pack..! Good to see you getting out again, thanks for sharing.
21 days ago
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Yuha basin petrified wood

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Heres a bone attached to a rock.
Same area as the vertebrae and petrified wood.
21 days ago
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Yuha basin petrified wood

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Try and get out to the Yuha Basin once a year. The previous summer thunderstorms will sometimes expose cool stuff. A few years ago I found a line of vertebrae, the largest chunk was about 6 inch in diameter, I snagged a 2 inch piece perhaps a trail. Those have fallen off the wash face and disappeared most likely crushed by wheelers. Heres some pics of petrified wood that's there.
I'm guessing the trees were about 3 or 4 feet in diameter.
21 days ago
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Santa Rosa Mtns. 3 Day backpack

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surfponto wrote:
Wow !
Absolutely amazing finds out there.
Do you know anything about those Petroglyphs?
Bob

Surf,
I never saw them the first time I passed through the area over 30 years ago. I was travelling to fast! I had no idea they were out there. This recent trip, most seemed to be clustered near or at Native American trail junctions. No idea of meaning. Others please chime in. All I know and read is these are hundreds of years old.





These are thousands of years old due to desert patina aging.





cheers
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Santa Rosa Mtns. 3 Day backpack

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Wow !
Absolutely amazing finds out there.
Do you know anything about those Petroglyphs?
Bob
21 days ago
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Santa Rosa Mtns. 3 Day backpack

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Took a little time off and went back out to a area of the Santa Rosas I had hiked through over 30 years ago way too quickly while summit climbing. This time I made a basecamp about 5 miles in and did loop all day hikes. Pack weighed in at 60 lbs. including 21 pints of water = 21 lbs. Food brought were walnuts, almonds, energy bars, oatmeal, coffee, jerky, canned stew and cabbage. Mylar balloon count 11.

My trusty 1980's A-16 6500 Cu. in. expedition pack pressed into service once again. It's needs a overhaul.

Came across dozens of patina'd over glyphs. many over these are over 10,000 years old when the paleo native Americans hunted large game in the area before it became a desert.




Lots of Garnets in the area also.

Saw this image on G. Earth. Rock wall structures measures about 80-100 feet across.

And here it is! It looks like a seasonal ancient Native American site on the edge of an old ancestrial stream. See the above G.E. image.

The Kitchen rock even protects from the prevailing winds!

Well used seasonal site for centuries.

Grinding stones still in place after all these years. It's definitely the one.


It's neat finding the grinding stones in place for others to enjoy.




Well used Big cave near by filled in by animals.


More recent petroglyphs above faded glyph.


Really glad I went back into the area "more slowly" this time. I am already planning a return trip to a nearby canyon I missed.
Cheers
edited by rockhopper on 4/3/2018
edited by rockhopper on 4/11/2018
21 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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Neat! I need to hike that area.
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tommy750 wrote:
Daren and I were out there 1/6-7/18 ( http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1355-carrizo-gorge-east-side.aspx ) so we could have left some of the prints you saw. Like that area. Thanks for posting. Tom

Boot tracks were oriented north down the canyon. Opposite direction I was heading. Probably yours.
22 days ago
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Daren: Do I see carbon staining on the granite? Looks like a fire pit? Nice BIG shards you found there. Old!

Definitely not a fire pit, I was crawling on hands and knees uphill in a super small crevice where I found these. I think they dropped from above and over time just got worked down into the boulders. I was practically laying on my stomach taking the picture....hantavirus here I come...!
22 days ago
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McCain / Canebrake 4 day Backpack

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tommy750 wrote:
Nice trip. Where did you guys start your hike? Cottonwood or farther south? You all camoed out and Gary wearing teal. Nice smile
Cottonwood campground...hate the walk back from Pepperwood...too long. Yeah, teal is a good look on Gary, matches his purple beaning.

@Britain....I think they drove the cattle straight up and down the mountain sides wherever they wanted, you can find cattle dung everywhere still...even in the most remote areas.
23 days ago
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McCain / Canebrake 4 day Backpack

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Been wanting to do the Pepperwood. The wind turbines sort of ruined the area. So do you think this is where McCain drove his cattle through to the desert?
23 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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Daren and I were out there 1/6-7/18 ( http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1355-carrizo-gorge-east-side.aspx ) so we could have left some of the prints you saw. Like that area. Thanks for posting. Tom
23 days ago
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McCain / Canebrake 4 day Backpack

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Nice trip. Where did you guys start your hike? Cottonwood or farther south? You all camoed out and Gary wearing teal. Nice smile
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Total Mylar balloons this trip - 8 (no picture sorry)
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McCain / Canebrake 4 day Backpack

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rockhopper wrote:
Sounds like a neat loop trip. How much water did you guys pack in? Did you find a water source? I need to do some camping in McCain valley sometime. I think you have found a few of those radiosondes. That one looks like is fairly new.
5 liters each but there are a couple of water sources out there but it is pretty dry right now, we had to dig one spring out and wait until morning to get water.

I have found a few radiosondes but this was the nicest. It was complete with about 50' of string, parachute, balloon and glow stick. My understanding is that two of these get launched every day from Kearny Mesa and are supposed to make it out to Arizona. If you find one in the desert then something probably went wrong with it's flight.
24 days ago
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McCain / Canebrake 4 day Backpack

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Sounds like a neat loop trip. How much water did you guys pack in? Did you find a water source? I need to do some camping in McCain valley sometime. I think you have found a few of those radiosondes. That one looks like is fairly new.
25 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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Cool, thanks for the info.
25 days ago
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When you pull out of the canyon there's a drop of about 200-300ft back to the service trail. You end up in the area where the service road drops back down to the R&R tracks near the trestle. Heres a shot looking back towards moan. Moan here is northeast. There's was some other interesting areas to explore on another hike. Desert temps up to 90 for a while.
25 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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East of the tracks, north of the trestle.
26 days ago
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Gary and I did a 4 day backpack loop trip from McCain Valley down to Canebrake and back up Pepperwood trail. To keep my herniated L3/4/5 discs happy over the last few years I don't carry my DSLR anymore so photos are usually from my phone. Damn wind turbines are now visible from anywhere near Sombrero. We camped the first night a few miles S/W of Sombrero and saw nothing but blinking red lights all night long.

McCain Valley is special....period.

Nights were pretty windy and cold, 38 every night. 3rd night on Pepperwood we had a handful of undocumented travelers pass our camp looking to do the same, once I told them Gary snores pretty bad they decided to move on..haha....I am the one who snores.

There are some cool old State Park signs still around


I bought some Pencott Badlands fabric and made my own gear...maybe I went too far?


Looking down towards Bow Willow from McCain Valley


Me in the early morning with Sombrero Peak in the background


Found a Radiosonde


26 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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Bedrock Cafe....Thumbs Up
26 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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East or west of the tracks? A wild area for sure. I don't recognize anything. Nice photos as unusual.
26 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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That's a really nice lunch table.
27 days ago
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Canyon west of Moan

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Went up the canyon west of Moan. Came down it in a different path a while back. Hike ended up about 12 miles when done. Found some boot prints coming down.. perhaps one of the hikers here?
Going up.
Rocks at the top
Before I dropped down into the Canyon, I poked around in some of the shallow valleys on the western slope of Moan and found some well-defined roasting pits. Once on top some potter frags here and there.
A really nice day out in the mid 70's. Lunch at the Bedrock cafe..

edited by Britain on 3/28/2018
3/24/2018
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Never too old

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Hope I am truck'n along in my 70's, 80's and 90's! I have seen backpackers in the high sierras in their 70's. Cheers!
3/19/2018
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Never too old

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Very Inspiring!
3/17/2018
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tekewin wrote:
That's an awesome photo of Grunt, so much detail! I hope I can make the trip out to Grunt this year.
edited by tekewin on 3/17/2018

Thanks, I enjoy photography as much as the journey. I carry a high-end Canon in which I have a quick release system mounted to my shoulder straps of the pack. I'll probably go back and check out the spring area later.
3/17/2018
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Gasp from The Gorge

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That's an awesome photo of Grunt, so much detail! I hope I can make the trip out to Grunt this year.
edited by tekewin on 3/17/2018
3/6/2018
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Gasp from The Gorge

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I will have to admire those who do Tule then to Groan across to Gasp and down to Grunt. Some awesome hikers. Heres the Grunt hill.
3/6/2018
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Gasp from The Gorge

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tekewin wrote:
So close! Did you start at the same place in the gorge that you used to get Grunt?

Hard to believe you found water anywhere out there.



Yes but next ridge south of the Grunt ridge. Awesome hike! Coming down was an adventure as going up! May do this again from a different route.
Looking down from the place I quit from.
3/6/2018
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Gasp from The Gorge

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So close! Did you start at the same place in the gorge that you used to get Grunt?

Hard to believe you found water anywhere out there.
3/5/2018
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Gasp from The Gorge

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Well, I did a run at it today. Took me 5 hrs to get to the final climb. I had time to do half of what was left but I would not have peaked. Got within 1/2 mile. The last section looked the easiest. I was thinking this ridgeline would be like Grunt but it was not much, much steeper. Going down was another story. Fun hike.

Hike ended here. Gasp in view!
But I did find another spring on the way down, so all not lost!
3/3/2018
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Never too old

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So awesome to be active and engaged at 70. Best of luck!
3/2/2018
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Never too old

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Nice job! smile
3/2/2018
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Never too old

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Good for him! Use it or loose it. I plan on spending my time after retirement traveling and hiking. God willing of course.
3/1/2018
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Never too old

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An old friend of mine is on the 100 peak Challenge. He gave me a list of peaks he wants to do. I scratched a few off his list, one which was Groan.
Sort of snickered on that one. Heres a picture of Jeff in 1958. He's the tall one a Boy Scout. One of the leaders o f our Cub Scout pack. I'm one of the Cubs Scouts. Jeff is 70.

So I tell him lets do Red Hill first. He's about 100lbs over weigh to boot. I figured this would make or break the rest of the desert peaks. Well, he slipped once but went right on up. We'll do Windy next so I can point out the peak poisons on his list. Jeff on Red Hill. He slipped one time but slow and steady going up. Us old farts can hike!
3/1/2018
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Grunt BM

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This weekend I'll try and get Gasp from the gorge. Else have a fun time trying.
3/1/2018
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Grunt BM

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Looks like a cool trip. Those ridges are tough.


rockhopper wrote:
Grunt is a great name for that bench mark. I see surveyors have a sense of humor.


I agree that area has the best benchmark names. Grunt, Gasp, Puff, Moan , Groan and Windy.

I might hit Puff soon.
2/28/2018
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Grunt BM

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Grunt is a great name for that bench mark. I see surveyors have a sense of humor.
2/26/2018
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Grunt BM

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Looks fun....!
Was definitely a nice weekend to be out in the desert....seemed super busy with lots of people.




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