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6 hours ago
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Not enough rangers

Buford
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I worry about the resources being abused and trashed. Even with the full ranger staff there was too much abuse of the area.
6 hours ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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Britain wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Thanks ziphius for catching this post, I missed it somehow.

I do not know your experience or capabilities, especially in the desert...in the summer...however for most folks, venturing out 8+ miles for a backpack trip into the desert in the summer with 105+ temps and relying on a water source to provide is a risk for anyone of any skill or knowledge level. When we head out for trips where water sources may be suspect we always, always bring enough to get us in to the first source and back in case it is dry. That may demand carrying 8 liters the first day.


This. I've lived in Imperial Valley for a long time. Used to do hikes in the heat mostly for photo ops around active springs. Like scuba diving I never went alone. It also pays to look at the weather temps for those hikes. I used to also carry an umbrella on my pack. This weeks temps not hot but dangerously hot.


Looks like sheep count weather.
14 hours ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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dsefcik wrote:
Thanks ziphius for catching this post, I missed it somehow.

I do not know your experience or capabilities, especially in the desert...in the summer...however for most folks, venturing out 8+ miles for a backpack trip into the desert in the summer with 105+ temps and relying on a water source to provide is a risk for anyone of any skill or knowledge level. When we head out for trips where water sources may be suspect we always, always bring enough to get us in to the first source and back in case it is dry. That may demand carrying 8 liters the first day.


This. I've lived in Imperial Valley for a long time. Used to do hikes in the heat mostly for photo ops around active springs. Like scuba diving I never went alone. It also pays to look at the weather temps for those hikes. I used to also carry an umbrella on my pack. This weeks temps not hot but dangerously hot.
4 days ago
Topic:
Not enough rangers

Britain
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Sad, parts of the park are being torn up.
4 days ago
Topic:
Not enough rangers

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And California only has a $9 billion surplus this year. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
4 days ago
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Not enough rangers

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Sad story and true. And people complain if you impose some small park fee to raise money to help pay for rangers etc.
edited by ziphius on 6/17/2018
4 days ago
Topic:
Not enough rangers

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upset

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-park-staffing-20180531-story.html
8 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Looks like a great trip. How far up RHC Road do you think you could get in a 2wd Explorer?
You should be able to get to Butler Junction without a problem. RHC in 105+ temps does not sound like any fun at all.....



Thanks. I draw the line when it gets near 110. smile
8 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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Rocko1 wrote:
Thank you for all of the information. This is an interesting option. I will do some mapping and see how that would look.

Thanks again.

There is an informal "trail" with a scattering of cairns from the top down to the cottonwoods, there is some brush bushwhack but no bad overall.
8 days ago
Topic:
Canyon Sin Nombre

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Topic: Canyon Sin Nombre
Thanks. We had been moving up the hill and kept seeing fresh urine/droppings. My dad thought is was from a huge rabbit but I said it has to be sheep or something with a massive bladder. We must have seen 10+ fresh pools 10" or so in diameter. Little did we know we were following them by accident on a use trail. They blend in so perfectly with the landscape.

Here is another video.

https://youtu.be/UAQfs2oy_v0
edited by Rocko1 on 6/13/2018
edited by Rocko1 on 6/13/2018
8 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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dsefcik wrote:
The other possibility is to park up at Toro peak and make your way down to the cottonwoods. Assuming there is water (which I would be surprised if there was not) you could base camp there and do some day hikes into the surrounding RHC area. This is a fairly common route even during non summer months. The only drawback is you will have to climb 3,000' to get back to your car. Toro is at 8,000+ and the cottonwoods are at 5,000 so the temps should better than down on the desert floor.


Thank you for all of the information. This is an interesting option. I will do some mapping and see how that would look.

Thanks again.
8 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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The other possibility is to park up at Toro peak and make your way down to the cottonwoods. Assuming there is water (which I would be surprised if there was not) you could base camp there and do some day hikes into the surrounding RHC area. This is a fairly common route even during non summer months. The only drawback is you will have to climb 3,000' to get back to your car. Toro is at 8,000+ and the cottonwoods are at 5,000 so the temps should better than down on the desert floor.
8 days ago
Topic:
Canyon Sin Nombre

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Topic: Canyon Sin Nombre
Excellent video! This area does look nice. Thanks for posting.
8 days ago
Topic:
Canyon Sin Nombre

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Love driving down there. Nice video
8 days ago
Topic:
Canyon Sin Nombre

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Nice trip report. Those rams are pretty robust!
9 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Britain wrote:

If I recall correctly a few days earlier you tagged the false Pah BM. Temps the same. You have a drinking problem smile haha
uummm...you caught me....Cool Smoke
9 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Topic: RHC 4 Day Backpack
dsefcik wrote:
Britain wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Looks like a great trip. How far up RHC Road do you think you could get in a 2wd Explorer?
You should be able to get to Butler Junction without a problem. RHC in 105+ temps does not sound like any fun at all.....

So says the guy that tags PAH BM in 105 temps.......
Well, and then there was this...I need to go back to DV...that trip was actually fun...smile

Yes that was a good trip Had a friend come out of the area of the DH grave monument and went up to Telescope. 18hr hike, the backup car was at MF. Said it was his hardest hike ever. 108 temps blaa...
9 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Topic: RHC 4 Day Backpack
dsefcik wrote:
Britain wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Looks like a great trip. How far up RHC Road do you think you could get in a 2wd Explorer?
You should be able to get to Butler Junction without a problem. RHC in 105+ temps does not sound like any fun at all.....

So says the guy that tags PAH BM in 105 temps.......
Yeah, but I never said it was "fun"....those that know me might say I just needed to burn off a hangover that day...Toast

If I recall correctly a few days earlier you tagged the false Pah BM. Temps the same. You have a drinking problem smile haha
9 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Britain wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Looks like a great trip. How far up RHC Road do you think you could get in a 2wd Explorer?
You should be able to get to Butler Junction without a problem. RHC in 105+ temps does not sound like any fun at all.....

So says the guy that tags PAH BM in 105 temps.......
Well, and then there was this...I need to go back to DV...that trip was actually fun...smile
9 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Britain wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Looks like a great trip. How far up RHC Road do you think you could get in a 2wd Explorer?
You should be able to get to Butler Junction without a problem. RHC in 105+ temps does not sound like any fun at all.....

So says the guy that tags PAH BM in 105 temps.......
Yeah, but I never said it was "fun"....those that know me might say I just needed to burn off a hangover that day...Toast
9 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Topic: RHC 4 Day Backpack
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Looks like a great trip. How far up RHC Road do you think you could get in a 2wd Explorer?
You should be able to get to Butler Junction without a problem. RHC in 105+ temps does not sound like any fun at all.....

So says the guy that tags PAH BM in 105 temps.......
9 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Rocko1 wrote:
Looks like a great trip. How far up RHC Road do you think you could get in a 2wd Explorer?
You should be able to get to Butler Junction without a problem. RHC in 105+ temps does not sound like any fun at all.....
9 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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Thanks ziphius for catching this post, I missed it somehow.

Rocko1, I do not know your experience or capabilities, especially in the desert...in the summer...however for most folks, venturing out 8+ miles for a backpack trip into the desert in the summer with 105+ temps and relying on a water source to provide is a risk for anyone of any skill or knowledge level. When we head out for trips where water sources may be suspect we always, always bring enough to get us in to the first source and back in case it is dry. That may demand carrying 8 liters the first day.

That said...the upper reaches of Nicholias Cyn near the cottonwoods as described in Schad's book should have water, it was flowing just fine a few weeks ago. I have never been out there in June/July/August so use that information at your own risk.

RHC is especially lonely in the summer and cell phones do not work but HAM works great off Toro.

PM me for more info you like, let us know if you venture out!
9 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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Buford wrote:
Another problem is reliability of water sources, especially in the summer. Sources that used to be reliable, may not be anymore due to drought, seasons, earthquakes, human intervention, or other causes. Not many people hike in Borrego in the summer either so info is more limited.

No one wants to send someone with unknown outdoors ability who they’ve never met in person to a potentially dry source the person might be relying on for survival.

Edit:
I actually don’t know the exact location of any year round water sources that are “secret.” I know some people here do. Another thing would be to search them out in winter with old Topo maps and google earth followed by some exploring on the ground.
edited by Buford on 6/12/2018



Makes perfect sense. I may stick with a 2 day trip until temperatures cool off. Thanks.
edited by Rocko1 on 6/12/2018
9 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

Buford
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Another problem is reliability of water sources, especially in the summer. Sources that used to be reliable, may not be anymore due to drought, seasons, earthquakes, human intervention, or other causes. Not many people hike in Borrego in the summer either so info is more limited.

No one wants to send someone with unknown outdoors ability who they’ve never met in person to a potentially dry source the person might be relying on for survival.

Edit:
I actually don’t know the exact location of any year round water sources that are “secret.” I know some people here do. Another thing would be to search them out in winter with old Topo maps and google earth followed by some exploring on the ground.
edited by Buford on 6/12/2018
9 days ago
Topic:
Canyon Sin Nombre

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Nice healthy rams for sure...nice footage...Thumbs Up
9 days ago
Topic:
Canyon Sin Nombre

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Topic: Canyon Sin Nombre
April of last year we stayed a couple of days at the south end of Canyon Sin Nombre. I had not been here since I was a kid. Explored the area with my brother and dad. Kept the hiking light for them. Saw a pair of healthy big horns in the morning hiking up the hill towards Sweeny Pass Rd. Nice area.

Big Horn Sheep
https://youtu.be/AqgcHugb0Vg



Healthy from the years heavy rains.



Looking south, near the end of the canyon.
edited by Rocko1 on 6/12/2018
9 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Looks like a great trip. How far up RHC Road do you think you could get in a 2wd Explorer?
9 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

Rocko1
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ziphius wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Ok, I understand that. How does one get 'vetted' so to speak?


It kind of happens 'organically', at least on this forum. Folks post threads from their trips, show an interest and respect for the desert and it's cultural and biological treasures, get invited on a trip with forum members, maybe they are known from other sources, like the annual bighorn sheep count, then they are trusted. Internet has resulted in 'oversharing' with the result being that many sites are now overrun. Tassajara Hot Springs is a good example. We are friendly here, but we generally don't post specific locations of obscure water sources, pictographs, etc. Just thought someone should reply to this thread.



I get it. Thanks for the info. I understand how sensitive the information is and how important protecting the area is as well. I have gotten to a certain point reading the standard books of the area by Schad, Lindsay, and wanted to try something a bit off the norm. Carrying 2-3 days water is tough in the summer.

Thanks for replying.
9 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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Rocko1 wrote:
Ok, I understand that. How does one get 'vetted' so to speak?


It kind of happens 'organically', at least on this forum. Folks post threads from their trips, show an interest and respect for the desert and it's cultural and biological treasures, get invited on a trip with forum members, maybe they are known from other sources, like the annual bighorn sheep count, then they are trusted. Internet has resulted in 'oversharing' with the result being that many sites are now overrun. Tassajara Hot Springs is a good example. We are friendly here, but we generally don't post specific locations of obscure water sources, pictographs, etc. Just thought someone should reply to this thread.
9 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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ziphius wrote:
There may be some reluctance to post locations or identify otherwise obscure backcountry water sources on the open forum, especially given the history of some of those sources being diverted for illegal weed farms and the associated trash and other problems that come with discovery. Just didn't want you to think folks were ignoring your thread / post.



Ok, I understand that. How does one get 'vetted' so to speak?
9 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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There may be some reluctance to post locations or identify otherwise obscure backcountry water sources on the open forum, especially given the history of some of those sources being diverted for illegal weed farms and the associated trash and other problems that come with discovery. Just didn't want you to think folks were ignoring your thread / post.
17 days ago
Topic:
2-3 Day Trip Recommendation?

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Looking to do a 2 day backpacking trip this summer. I was hoping I could make a reliable water source the halfway point so I wouldn't have to carry so much water. I know of a few of the sources-Palm Spring, Dos Cabezas but those don't fit will with a decent route. Can anyone point me towards a reliable source 8-12 miles from place I can park? It would be appreciated.
18 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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rockhopper wrote:
Nice back pack trip Daren and Gary. I need to get back out to Rockhouse valley again. It's been too long. Sorry to see the drug cartels setting up in "our" wilderness. I worry about the animal poison those guys use. Good to see wildlife at the water source and scat around. Good sign! I wish the feds would clean that up after they shut it down. Do they know the about that one? Nice red man picto. Looks very old. It's a special place. how high up in elevation did you go? Are the burial mounds still intact by the rock house ruins? Any "old " trails re-discovered.
cheers

Doesn't seem like the feds clean up much, usually just the irrigation lines get cut. There is an old indian trail out there we cleared the brush on for about 3 miles...spent most of the day doing that. Somebody also hauled out a pair of brush clippers we had stashed. Seems like somebody thought they were helping by removing the "trash" at the site.
18 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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ziphius wrote:
Expert consensus on your thumb-sized scat is roadrunner!
Thanks Jim....the FB group looks interesting also, didn't realize there were so many other people that liked animal poop as much as me...Big Grin
20 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Expert consensus on your thumb-sized scat is roadrunner!
20 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Nice back pack trip Daren and Gary. I need to get back out to Rockhouse valley again. It's been too long. Sorry to see the drug cartels setting up in "our" wilderness. I worry about the animal poison those guys use. Good to see wildlife at the water source and scat around. Good sign! I wish the feds would clean that up after they shut it down. Do they know the about that one? Nice red man picto. Looks very old. It's a special place. how high up in elevation did you go? Are the burial mounds still intact by the rock house ruins? Any "old " trails re-discovered.
cheers
21 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Daren, thanks I posted the photos to a couple of different groups. I recommend joining 'Animals Don't Cover Their Tracks', a FB group administered by Kim Cabrera. That is a very active forum at a national and international level, but there are a lot of California trackers on there. If you're interested in studying track & sign in person, there are about 6-8 of us that get together at various sites (Lake Morena, Border Field SP) every 2-3 weeks. I can fill you in on that offline if interested.
21 days ago
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RHC 4 Day Backpack

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ziphius wrote:
Daren,About what size was the scat?
Sorry, it was about the size of my thumb....boink
21 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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ziphius wrote:
Daren,Ok if I post a copy of that scat photo to a track & sign geek group and see if they think it's roadrunner? - Jim
Yes, and tell me how I can join!!
21 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Daren,

Looks like an a great trip! I believe your scat might belong to a roadrunner. There is usually a white uric acid cap attached to those, but it might have broken away or eroded out before the remainder. About what size was the scat? Ok if I post a copy of that scat photo to a track & sign geek group and see if they think it's roadrunner? - Jim
edited by ziphius on 5/31/2018
21 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Looks like a great trip, Daren. That birthday note to Andrew or Olaf has me confused.
21 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Wow that growing camp is crazy !
For some reason I always equate these with national forests.

Love the red man picto.

Great post Daren,

Bob
21 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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tekewin wrote:

Is that a 22 or an air rifle? Can't tell from the photo.
Air rifle....
22 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Nice! Seems like a well-traveled area. Need to put on my list for next year if I can get some company to come. Don't want to end up mountain lion food. So as written in an earlier posting "Whats on the menu? " That was a great write up also. Thanks for the share!
edited by Britain on 5/30/2018
22 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Awesome trip as usual. Looks like a gopher snake in the water.

I know there are lions in the desert, but surprised they find enough food. There aren't that many bighorns and I thought deer were in higher forested areas. I've read there are hundreds of lions in the Palomar and Agua Tibia areas. OTOH, they can roam hundreds of miles.

Is that a 22 or an air rifle? Can't tell from the photo. I am shocked that there are grow farms in RHC. They are all over the San Gabriels but this is news to me. Thanks for posting!
22 days ago
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No Big Horn this year seen during hiking

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Dang. I did two hikes in the area this year and nada. Come to think of it, the only place I've seen bighorns in AB was on a ridge on the way to San Ysidro East. Scat and prints are everywhere, but they are hard for me to spot.
22 days ago
Topic:
RHC 4 Day Backpack

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Gary and I went out for another 4 day backpack trip into Rockhouse Canyon. We did the rounds on the springs to make sure they were in good order and only noted the spring at Cowboy had been messed up by someone who probably thought they were helping. The branches that we placed to keep the animals from breaking down the rock build up were all tossed aside and the aluminum tent stake we had stashed to help clean out the piping was gone. We fixed it all back up and got it flowing good again.

Lots of new cairns were put up, looked like whoever did it was losing the trail and putting ducks up wherever they went.

2 nights at the Cottonwoods with a full day exploring the western Santa Rosa mountains below Toro Peak. Lots of now defunct Mary Jane plantations. Plenty of interesting artifacts still around

Defunct camp base


Even Mary Jane cultivators have dental hygiene


This was interesting, they placed a single bottle with a drip line to feed a single grow


Pit used to capture water form a nearby spring and then draw the irrigation lines down the grow areas


Varmit protection or hiker scare tactic?


Plenty of grow supplies


We were excited to find a new water hole even with wildlife


Managed to pick up another radiosonde, looks like it had a crash landing


On our way back to the Cottonwoods we saw some fresh mountain lion tracks and then ran into this large scat. My phone is about 6.5" long, this scat was pretty big


Red Man looked in good shape and the cactus bloom was a pretty addition


View from upper rockhouse area looking down towards the lower rockhouses


Bees were busy with the blloms that were coming out


Super deep morteros


New scat to me, anybody know what critter this is from?


Close up of scat


Last night out with an almost full moon and view of Dawns Peak


Total Mylar balloons - 10 (not all pictured)


Note attached some balloon


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23 days ago
Topic:
Pinyon Mountain Road Current Condition?

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Does anyone know the current condition of Pinyon Mountain Rd up to the Whale Peak trail head?
23 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge Work Camps

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One of my favorite areas also, lots to explore out in Carrizo. Thanks for sharing the photos.
25 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge Work Camps

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Those old time rail workers really did the impossible. I still am amazed.
26 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge Work Camps

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Looks like you got some nice weather.
Love that area.
26 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge Work Camps

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One of our favorite places to explore. Lots of neat R&R stuff there.
27 days ago
Topic:
Carrizo Gorge Work Camps

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A friend of mine and I took advantage of the nice weather last Sunday and went for a hike to look at some of the old work camps in the Carrizo Gorge. Due to a prior commitment Sunday late afternoon, we didn't spend all day out on the trail. But a few hours is better than no hours. The weather was good and the big bonus was there were no other hikers that day. A lot of the Desert Agave were in bloom as well. Here are a few photos from the day.



Desert Agave in bloom by Rail explorer, on Flickr


Can Dump by Rail explorer, on Flickr


Work Camp Timbers by Rail explorer, on Flickr
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No Big Horn this year seen during hiking

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Boy ...Canebreak Jeff was right !! I camped at Auga Caliente on Wednesday. I had to wait for the 11 bighorn to cross the driveway so I could get to my campsite. They were everywhere including the babies !!
5/22/2018
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Pool Table

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dsefcik wrote:
Was it full of bullet holes?

haha everything seems to be full of bullets out here. It looks like initially it was stoned to death. There's large rocks all over the cement slab. When this failed I guess they ran over. Dang thing died a bad death.
5/22/2018
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Pool Table

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Was it full of bullet holes?
5/21/2018
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Pool Table

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RobMay wrote:
You're not surprised are you? I was going to take it to the dump a few weekends ago when I hiked Groan BM but I had company on that hike and no room for it. It looks like it'll be easier to haul off in pieces but I probably won't be back out there until fall.

Not at all surprised. Surprised it lasted that long.
5/21/2018
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Pool Table

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You're not surprised are you? I was going to take it to the dump a few weekends ago when I hiked Groan BM but I had company on that hike and no room for it. It looks like it'll be easier to haul off in pieces but I probably won't be back out there until fall.
5/20/2018
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Pool Table

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Well if you're going out to see the pool table forget it. The weekend destroyers wrecked it.
5/19/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Topic: Sawtooth / Vallecito
Nice trip report Daren. You are the King of radiosondes and water sources.
5/19/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Thanks for doing the research Bob, you dug up more than I was able to.

Yep, I would say hunting was in their blood, this was also there



surfponto wrote:
Regarding the signs I found this. for J.D. Wright
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sandiegouniontribune/obituary.aspx?n=rd-wright&pid=86337863
He had an adventurous spirit and enjoyed hunting, fishing, sailing and traveling/camping in Baja.
That is a nice tribute .

This looks like Jim Graham's obituary but date is a little off
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/james-graham-obituary?pid=20504440&view=guestbook

Nice find Daren,

Bob
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5/19/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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tommy750 wrote:
Looks like a nice trip Daren. Trail cam pointed at your campsite all night probably would have made a hilarious video.
I could have recorded them with my phone but you remember my high quality skills from the rattlesnake.....upset
5/19/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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rockhopper wrote:
Amazing you keep finding those NOAA beacons.

This one I found in 3 pieces, that´s why the different pictures...I found one half hiking in and then on the way back out I found the other half and the 3 mile long string attached to it. Looks like some critters chewed it up.
5/19/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Looks like a nice trip Daren. Trail cam pointed at your campsite all night probably would have made a hilarious video.
5/19/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Nice finds and nice sandy bivy spot. With all those critters running around on your bivy sack, must have been a "interesting" night. Amazing you keep finding those NOAA beacons. I have yet to come upon one.
5/18/2018
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Piepkorn slot

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Really don't understand the mentality of some people. :-(
5/18/2018
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Piepkorn slot

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I've been following the plaque for near 20 years. Used to have a plaster lighthouse next to it. People would pay their tokens, most likely ended up a geocache. About 5 years ago the weekend warriors found it and destroyed the lighthouse and tried prying off the plaque. It was still there this year a bit more destroyed.
There used to be some black rock designs in the earth above it and a ways away. Spirals and a sun with rays. Those also have been destroyed by weekend wheelers.
5/18/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Regarding the signs I found this. for J.D. Wright
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sandiegouniontribune/obituary.aspx?n=rd-wright&pid=86337863
He had an adventurous spirit and enjoyed hunting, fishing, sailing and traveling/camping in Baja.
That is a nice tribute .

This looks like Jim Graham's obituary but date is a little off
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/james-graham-obituary?pid=20504440&view=guestbook

Nice find Daren,

Bob
edited by surfponto on 5/18/2018
5/17/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Cool. Going to try and hit Jacumba Jims mid summer to see what critters water at the springs.
5/17/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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The chimney / flue sure looks close by also...but again my GE kung fu not so strong....
5/17/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Oh, I did see one snake...one super fast faded yellow looking one but he sped off into the brush before I could get a good look at him.
5/17/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Yeah, they just welded the names on there, kinda like tractors do on their different buckets and such. Bubbly water, yep....
5/17/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Nice, Is that welding on the name signs? Looks like the Rattlers will have a field day with the field mice! Is that water bubbling out of the pipe? Looks like a fun outing.
5/17/2018
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Sawtooth / Vallecito

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Did a 24 hour solo trip to Vallecito / Sawtooth area again last weekend. Weather was pretty good, maybe low 80's during the day and about 50 at night. I mostly just needed to get out for a couple days and that is a good area with water. I picked up another radiosond and managed to find a new active water source. Wildlife was mostly birds, rabbits a dead coyote and tons of field mice at night running all over my gear and sleeping bag...I was kinda wishing I had Tom's tent that night.

This is probably 6 now and I have two I need to drop off at NOAA




There were a few cactus blooms on the hillsides


Busted metate next to spring pipe


Some mexican bottles near the water


Not sure if this was natural or predator induced


This must have been the calf trough


Anybody know these guys?


My custom made bivy sack & backpack in Pencott Badlands pattern


These guys came out like ants when the sun set, they were everywhere all over my gear and bivy sack


Total Mylar balloons - 5



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5/17/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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OK, yeah..I looked at that spot twenty times last night...I got it now...thanks, my GE kung fu level just got stronger..!!
5/17/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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Heres a Photo from a plane. Looks like someone had some interest in this area a while ago.
5/17/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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Someone had a good eye to spot this .
5/17/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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I am still searching...apparently my GE kung fu is not very strong.....I know I am close though...smile
5/17/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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Excellent sleuthing.
5/16/2018
Topic:
No Big Horn this year seen during hiking

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Canebrake Jeff wrote:
Lots of Bighorns in the Agua Caliente Campground in the last few days. They come into the camp to drink in the middle of the day. Several just above the pool on Monday.

Well, good to see someone spotted some!
5/16/2018
Topic:
No Big Horn this year seen during hiking

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Lots of Bighorns in the Agua Caliente Campground in the last few days. They come into the camp to drink in the middle of the day. Several just above the pool on Monday.
5/15/2018
Topic:
Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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rockhopper wrote:
Britain wrote:
Been wanting to hike this side of the desert for a while. Did you get to the trails from the Salton sea side? Like when you find old foot trails! Nice Pictures!

Britain, The last photo. I parked in the farmers field below. I have a old "trail head" vehicle I use just in case. In all the years I never had a problem. I parked in an organic lemon field and the smell was glorious, especially upon my return. There are quite a few "old trials" criss crossing the Santa Rosas in areas of low erosion. They are a blessing when I find them. Especially when you are lugging heavy gear + water.
Cheers
edited by rockhopper on 5/15/2018


I found the image on GE, amazing that you spotted this. Thanks for the reply!
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5/15/2018
Topic:
Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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Nice GE find and trip.
5/15/2018
Topic:
Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Photos loaded this time. Thanks Daren!

Nice find, now you will have everyone searching for the rockhopper rockhouse....

Daren,
Maybe I will call the unnamed canyon Lucia canyon, or maybe Rockhopper canyon :-)
5/15/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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Britain wrote:
Been wanting to hike this side of the desert for a while. Did you get to the trails from the Salton sea side? Like when you find old foot trails! Nice Pictures!

Britain, The last photo. I parked in the farmers field below. I have a old "trail head" vehicle I use just in case. In all the years I never had a problem. I parked in an organic lemon field and the smell was glorious, especially upon my return. There are quite a few "old trials" criss crossing the Santa Rosas in areas of low erosion. They are a blessing when I find them. Especially when you are lugging heavy gear + water.
Cheers
edited by rockhopper on 5/15/2018
5/15/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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rockhopper wrote:
Photos loaded this time. Thanks Daren!

Nice find, now you will have everyone searching for the rockhopper rockhouse....
5/15/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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Been wanting to hike this side of the desert for a while. Did you get to the trails from the Salton sea side? Like when you find old foot trails! Nice Pictures!
5/15/2018
Topic:
Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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Photos loaded this time. Thanks Daren!
5/14/2018
Topic:
Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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Rockhouse I saw on Google Earth

Hiking up a un-named canyon I found it.


More recent rockhouse was built on a Native American seasonal village site. Rusted iron and tin cans on top of pottery shards and arrowheads.
Who was this person? Rancher, prospector?..........mystery solved!

Next canyon had this. Memorial? chimney with no flue?

Found this old trail heading over from canyon to canyon.


View from trail.

note: I did not show G.E. cords due to sensitive artifacts noted in the area. I can pass them along to our moderator to use as he wishes.
Cheers
regards, rockhopper




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edited by rockhopper on 5/15/2018
5/14/2018
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Santa Rosas Prospectors Rock House

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I wanted to share a few more pictures I thought were interesting from my Santa Rosa backpack trip I took a few weeks back. Up a un-named canyon to a rock house I spotted on Google Earth. The rock house was square not round. I believe I would find a more modern ruin built by a non-native settler, rancher or prospector. Well I was presently surprised to find both. A prospectors rock house built on top of a native American site. A small site of maybe a few acres of a gentle slope bench against the steep mountian and canyons of the mightly Santa Rosas. A old water source nearby.

Rock house I spotted on G. Earth




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5/12/2018
Topic:
Table Mountain East Mesa

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Looks like you are covering the area pretty well. Nice photos. Thanks for sharing.
5/10/2018
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Table Mountain East Mesa

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dsefcik wrote:
I love that whole area...gotta be a desert person to enjoy it.


The season went to fast. Seemed to be a bit warmer than usual. But found some new places to poke around in. Can't wait till next year.
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5/9/2018
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Table Mountain East Mesa

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I love that whole area...gotta be a desert person to enjoy it.
5/9/2018
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Table Mountain East Mesa

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dsefcik wrote:
Was finally looking at the map trying to figure out where you were hiking....not seeing where Devils leads to Mortero Palms. Did you drive into Table Mtn area and park off one of the north forks and hike from there? That is definitely a neat area very few people visit.

Devils doesn't lead to Montero, it though starts in the east mesa area of Table Mountain. I didnt spend as much time as I wanted to this season in this area. Got sidetracked with some hikes in the Carrizo creek area thanks to some of Tommy's posts. Heres a google cut out. The peak in the center is Jacumba. The white track is what I need to complete. Perhaps next year.
5/9/2018
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Table Mountain East Mesa

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Was finally looking at the map trying to figure out where you were hiking....not seeing where Devils leads to Mortero Palms. Did you drive into Table Mtn area and park off one of the north forks and hike from there? That is definitely a neat area very few people visit.
5/9/2018
Topic:
McCain Valley

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Topic: McCain Valley
Great trip! Had no idea there were packrats in the desert. I sometimes find woodrat nests in the Santa Ana Mountains, 90% sticks and twigs.

What an impressive snake. Reds are my favorite rattlesnakes. I've only seen one rattlesnake this year (speckled), in the San Mateo Wilderness. Never seen one in Anza-Borrego. I'm not complaining, it probably means I'm making enough vibrations with my heavy steps and pole to shoo them away.
5/5/2018
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Table Mountain East Mesa

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Did a short hike. Dropped down to Devils Canyon, followed it up to its origin. Followed the south side of Jacumba Mountain until the mesa dropped away. We have been hacking out a trail down to Monterol Plalms. We got within 1.5 miles of our gps marker on the upper south side of Montero. If wasn't for the late start we would have gone down to the small valley.
Exiting Devils canyon
Devils canyon starts here.
End of Mesa north side, before dropping down. Theres another small valley below about 1/2 mile.
View of small valley below. Next year I'll hit the valley and go over the ridge to the west. Should put be close to the gps marker.
We followed the ridge of east mesa for a while , then zig-zagged back. Only about 5 miles, temps were in the mid 70's slight breeze .
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5/5/2018
Topic:
Park here

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Shuttle haha, the sign laying on the ground had Open 24 hrs on it. Guess someone called it out.
5/4/2018
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Park here

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They have a shuttle....




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