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DesertWRX
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11/10/2013
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Thought I'd try something new. Post pictures of memorials you have found in ABDSP or nearby BLM land.

On a hill above Carrizo Impact area border. ABDSP patrolled BLM land


In ABDSP just east of the Palm Canyon campground
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tommy750
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11/10/2013
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Interesting idea. Should be quite a few pics for this topic. Tom

Near Coyote Wash and EC085. According to the Internet, found lying outside his car with a shotgun nearby.


Sixteen by tomteske, on Flickr

Yuha Desert


Yuha Cruz by tomteske, on Flickr

West of Coyote Mts


Ali by tomteske, on Flickr
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dsefcik
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11/11/2013
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Hey Tom, where is the one you have from out in Pinto area?

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Carrizo Gorge near DeAnza, there is stuff written on the crosses but that was not the emphasis of the photo


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Unknown graves on the West side of Toro Peak , South West of the old lumber mill at elevation approx. 6500 ft.
Anyone have any info?


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dsefcik wrote:
Hey Tom, where is the one you have from out in Pinto area?


Here it is. Tom


Cruz Azul2 by tomteske, on Flickr




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11/13/2013
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rockhopper wrote:
Unknown graves on the West side of Toro Peak , South West of the old lumber mill at elevation approx. 6500 ft.
Anyone have any info?


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Assuming that's near Coyote Creek east of Vandeventer Flat somewhere? That looks like an interesting place to explore. You hiked there or drove? Looks like it's somewhat accessible off 74. Tom
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11/14/2013
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Hi Tommy 750,
Either hike in from Rock house Canyon or Hike down from Toro Peak. It's eaiser coming down from the mountian.
As I remember there were about 8 or more marked ( falling apart) wooden grave markers with no info. No idea of age
or who they were. But the view from the memorial ground was fantastic! I have a guess.
a) Converted Christian native Americans
b) Lumber mill workers ( seems like a lot) from the old Santa Rosa lumber mill
c) Homesteders who lived on or around the mountian
Going back has been on my list. If I can still find it! We just stumbled on it hiking down towards Toro Spring.
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rockhopper wrote:
Hi Tommy 750,
Either hike in from Rock house Canyon or Hike down from Toro Peak. It's eaiser coming down from the mountian.
As I remember there were about 8 or more marked ( falling apart) wooden grave markers with no info. No idea of age
or who they were. But the view from the memorial ground was fantastic! I have a guess.
a) Converted Christian native Americans
b) Lumber mill workers ( seems like a lot) from the old Santa Rosa lumber mill
c) Homesteders who lived on or around the mountian
Going back has been on my list. If I can still find it! We just stumbled on it hiking down towards Toro Spring.



Thanks for the info. Need to head out there sometime. Tom
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11/18/2013
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Not my photo (credit to Space Cowboy) but it certainly belongs in this thread.
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DesertWRX
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11/23/2013
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The Frank Fox shooting is mentioned in one of the Lindsey books. Interesting to see a memorial!
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10/23/2017
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rockhopper wrote:
Hi Tommy 750,
Either hike in from Rock house Canyon or Hike down from Toro Peak. It's eaiser coming down from the mountian.
As I remember there were about 8 or more marked ( falling apart) wooden grave markers with no info. No idea of age
or who they were. But the view from the memorial ground was fantastic! I have a guess.
a) Converted Christian native Americans
b) Lumber mill workers ( seems like a lot) from the old Santa Rosa lumber mill
c) Homesteders who lived on or around the mountian
Going back has been on my list. If I can still find it! We just stumbled on it hiking down towards Toro Spring.


I don't have any better info but was able to find the location this past weekend.

Rockhopper's original film photo


My attempt to duplicate Rockhopper's photo



Close up of the single remaining cross



View of Rockhouse Valley


Thank you Rockhopper for posting this, it was of great interest to many people.

Daren

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10/23/2017
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Nice find, Daren. Thanks for the update.
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Daren,
You found them! Wow haven't seen that view in over 20 years. I still wonder who they were and when they were all buried. It does have a nice view for a burial spot IMHO.
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That's pretty cool!

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24 days ago
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Daren, Tommy and the crew. I found these burial mounds east of the Santa Rosas on a trail heading down to the ancient Lake Cahuilla shoreline.
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rockhopper wrote:
Daren, Tommy and the crew. I found these burial mounds east of the Santa Rosas on a trail heading down to the ancient Lake Cahuilla shoreline.
Working on posting pic with new photo hosting#%@!
I saw them with the link...interesting, they looked like they had been dug up

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dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Daren, Tommy and the crew. I found these burial mounds east of the Santa Rosas on a trail heading down to the ancient Lake Cahuilla shoreline.
Working on posting pic with new photo hosting#%@!
I saw them with the link...interesting, they looked like they had been dug up



Daren, I am still struggling with my new hosting service as you can see. I am pretty old school so it takes awhile to figure the new photo sizing.
Anyway, here they are. Yes one of the 3 burial mounds was dug up. Why? I've only seen these in a few places around ABDSP and both times at least one was "disturbed". The first pic is the undisturbed one. These were found about halfway between the Ancient Lake Cahuilla shore line to the East and the Ancient mountain springs to the east.

Burial mound with unearthed mound behind.


This piece of pottery nearby shows an incluse and painted design. Meaning?
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