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8 hours ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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dsefcik wrote:
Nice TR tommy750....Gary, myself and other gang members were not too far away up in the Domeland Wilderness and enjoyed some very hot summer weather as well. We did manage to see bears, deer and other local wildlife and some rock art. Glad you and the spouse had a good trip.

Definitely was warm out there. You guys probably had a nice portable shower at base camp like we did, right?? Looking forward to your post!
9 hours ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
tekewin wrote:
Thanks for report! It took me a few minutes to figure out that tent set up. Clever.


You got some close up sheep, always a treat. The White Mountains are still on my to-do list. I've heard the road is really long and rough.


All the dirt roads on top we traveled on were not bad and you could easily drive 30-40 mph. Not really sure about other seasons, however.
10 hours ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

dsefcik
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Nice TR tommy750....Gary, myself and other gang members were not too far away up in the Domeland Wilderness and enjoyed some very hot summer weather as well. We did manage to see bears, deer and other local wildlife and some rock art. Glad you and the spouse had a good trip.
10 hours ago
Topic:
Photography

dsefcik
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Lots of great photos here, thanks everyone for sharing..!

@buford...the milky way glow in the background...I hate that...I always thought it was El Centro but I think tommy750 suggested it was Calexico instead.
4 days ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
tekewin wrote:
Haha, yup. Tweezers are a necessity. It's not just the cactus itself, but the landmines that I often kick into my calf. But you win with 75+ needles. Ouch.

I had missed a needle in my foot from this trip and I just got it out last week after some 'surgery'. I really need some more cactus proof boots.smile
4 days ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

tekewin
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tekewin
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Topic: Diablo BM
Haha, yup. Tweezers are a necessity. It's not just the cactus itself, but the landmines that I often kick into my calf. But you win with 75+ needles. Ouch.
4 days ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:

There is a phenomenal amount of Cholla cactus. I have never been 'bit' by some many in any trip. I think at least 20 times I got jumped.
edited by Rocko1 on 7/10/2020



Yes! A couple of dense cholla gardens. As soon as I stop concentrating on it, it gets me...


edited by tekewin on 7/29/2020



I learned the value of REAL tweezers on this trip. I usually carry the small Swiss army knife that has 'tweezers'. They were completely useless for the 75+ needles I had to remove. I bought a couple of Uncle Bills Silver Gripper tweezers since.
4 days ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

tekewin
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tekewin
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Topic: Diablo BM
Rocko1 wrote:

There is a phenomenal amount of Cholla cactus. I have never been 'bit' by some many in any trip. I think at least 20 times I got jumped.
edited by Rocko1 on 7/10/2020



Yes! A couple of dense cholla gardens. As soon as I stop concentrating on it, it gets me...


edited by tekewin on 7/29/2020
4 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

tekewin
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tekewin
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Topic: Owens Valley
Thanks for report! It took me a few minutes to figure out that tent set up. Clever.


You got some close up sheep, always a treat. The White Mountains are still on my to-do list. I've heard the road is really long and rough.
6 days ago
Topic:
Photography

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Photography
Thanks all. This was so long ago, 2014. I was using my Sony mirrorless NEX-6 (still using it), with the downloadable time lapse app. Maybe a frame every 2 seconds or so?
tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Clouds rushing over San Ysidro Mtns from Big Spring area in 2014.
https://video.wixstatic.com/video/a56887_3e935c1a146c4aad98b3d4525a9296d5/1080p/mp4/file.mp4

Nice, I like it. Mind sharing your settings taking/making the clip? Thanks!

edited by ziphius on 7/27/2020
6 days ago
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Photography
ziphius wrote:
Clouds rushing over San Ysidro Mtns from Big Spring area in 2014.
https://video.wixstatic.com/video/a56887_3e935c1a146c4aad98b3d4525a9296d5/1080p/mp4/file.mp4

Nice, I like it. Mind sharing your settings taking/making the clip? Thanks!
6 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Photography
ziphius wrote:
Clouds rushing over San Ysidro Mtns from Big Spring area in 2014.
https://video.wixstatic.com/video/a56887_3e935c1a146c4aad98b3d4525a9296d5/1080p/mp4/file.mp4

That is great. I love the shadows shrinking this as well.
6 days ago
Topic:
Photography

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Photography
Clouds rushing over San Ysidro Mtns from Big Spring area in 2014.
https://video.wixstatic.com/video/a56887_3e935c1a146c4aad98b3d4525a9296d5/1080p/mp4/file.mp4
7 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Photography
Another timelapse experiment from a previous weekend:


Random milky way picture from last weekend
14 days ago
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Photography
Very nice time-lapse.
14 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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Buford
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One more from last weekend:


Photos of the comet from this weekend didn't come out as well.


Sunrise images from this weekend, the original is ~14000x5000 pixels:


Click the image below to play a timelapse of sunrise from the panorama above. I purposefully kept the sun out of the timelapse image, but unfortunately the clouds didn't light up across the sky so the video missed the best part.
Desert sunrise

edit -> to make link work
edited by Buford on 7/19/2020
15 days ago
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
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tommy750
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Here it is last night about 930 pm off EC 85 a few miles above Plaster City. Was windy and 90-95 degrees still so not the best conditions! You can see the faint second tail and the entire tail has swung rightward compared to Buford's earlier pic. Could easily see it with the naked eye out there but not in my front yard in El Centro even with binoculars. Was really cool to see.

Neowise1 by tomteske, on Flickr
15 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Owens Valley
tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.


I found the point lying on the ground near where I took the BW bristlecone pic. Wasn't really near anything. Assuming the road to the research station used to be open?? Wow, that would have been a nice trip. Now the gate is at 11.7K and you've got a 15 mile 3K g/l hike ahead of you. I found out my Tundra had a transmission fluid temp idiot light going up Silver Canyon. Magically went away when I changed from 4-Hi to 4-Lo. Silver Canyon is the short cut from Bishop to the White Mts and is about a 6,200 feet climb in 9 miles with a 43% grade in places. Was about 100 degrees till above 8000 ft. Our camp site off the road had great views of the night sky but totally forgot about the comet. Need to check that out this weekend.



This was back in the 1990's . The graded dirt ( rocky) road was open up to a locked gate just below the summit. You could see the research station beyond.
Also, When ever we are traveling up in that area during the cool seasons we always stop at nearby Benton Hot Springs or Kehoe Hot springs for a soak and talk story with the locals.
BTW nice Tundra and interesting camping set up.
15 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

ziphius
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Topic: Owens Valley
smile Yes sir! I have plans! Just need to get over a nagging piriformis injury!

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Great trip Tommy. Makes me miss the desert!

What are you waiting for Ziphius?? Everything is open and Inner Pasture this weekend is probably only as hot as El Cajon Mt. during an illicit August dayhike. smile
15 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Owens Valley
Rocko1 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.



I have read about the White Mtn Peak hike and the road going up to the trailhead. Didn't realize it was that steep.




It wasn't that steep. It was more our vehicle and the altitude. A older 90's Ford ranger with big tires and a small V6 fully loaded with a week of camping gear.
16 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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The comet was visible the last two nights in the city starting after sunset. It was only visible with assistance though. I couldn’t see it with the naked eye. Got more pictures.

In the desert last weekend it was clearly visible with the naked eye before sunrise.
16 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
Buford wrote:
Nice report.

I like the sheep shots of course smile. Two lambs to five ewes is not terrible. ABDSP in July lamb survival is close to 0% some years and areas, other areas close to 70%. I don't know what normal is near the Bristlecones.

I have been meaning to make my way up to the White Mountains.

Thanks for the info. Couldn't find anything specific regarding sheep in that area but it's not endangered like the Sierra or Peninsular sheep and the forest service website mentions sighting in that area.
16 days ago
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Photography
Nice pic! Was thinking of heading out tonight to take a peek.
17 days ago
Topic:
Photography

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Photography
Great shot of the comet Buford!
17 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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Buford
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I think most people will recognize the profile of the mountains here:
17 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Owens Valley
Nice report.

I like the sheep shots of course smile. Two lambs to five ewes is not terrible. ABDSP in July lamb survival is close to 0% some years and areas, other areas close to 70%. I don't know what normal is near the Bristlecones.

I have been meaning to make my way up to the White Mountains.
17 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Owens Valley
rockhopper wrote:
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.



I have read about the White Mtn Peak hike and the road going up to the trailhead. Didn't realize it was that steep.
18 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
ziphius wrote:
Great trip Tommy. Makes me miss the desert!

What are you waiting for Ziphius?? Everything is open and Inner Pasture this weekend is probably only as hot as El Cajon Mt. during an illicit August dayhike. smile
18 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
rockhopper wrote:
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.


I found the point lying on the ground near where I took the BW bristlecone pic. Wasn't really near anything. Assuming the road to the research station used to be open?? Wow, that would have been a nice trip. Now the gate is at 11.7K and you've got a 15 mile 3K g/l hike ahead of you. I found out my Tundra had a transmission fluid temp idiot light going up Silver Canyon. Magically went away when I changed from 4-Hi to 4-Lo. Silver Canyon is the short cut from Bishop to the White Mts and is about a 6,200 feet climb in 9 miles with a 43% grade in places. Was about 100 degrees till above 8000 ft. Our camp site off the road had great views of the night sky but totally forgot about the comet. Need to check that out this weekend.
18 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Owens Valley
Great trip Tommy. Makes me miss the desert!
18 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Owens Valley
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.
19 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice! I am always amazed at how you find these artifacts. You may have a built in dowsing rod ability for this stuff. wink

That's exactly what I used to say to everyone I went out with when they found stuff and I never did. Then one day I was out in Canebrake with Daren and found seven points. Now, it seems easier to find stuff. Guess something in your brain clicks and then they're much more obvious to locate.
19 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Owens Valley
Very nice! I am always amazed at how you find these artifacts. You may have a built in dowsing rod ability for this stuff. wink
20 days ago
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
Not exactly Anza Borrego but pretty much the same stuff: rocks and sand, heat, sheep, hiking, rock art, artifacts, exploring, you know. When the wife's planned trip to Baja fell through (expired passport and extension of travel ban), we decided to head to the Owens Valley area. Was going to be hot but figured we could camp either in the eastern Sierras or in the White Mts to stay cool and do whatever during the day. Made it to Indian Wells Canyon (near Inyokern) the first night and explored a rock art site reportedly dating mainly to the "Ghost Dance" period of the 1890's. The site had some nice pictos with some reportedly showing a rider with a white hat, the prophet Wavoka. During the trip started reading a book on the Ghost Dance and highly recommend it: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Red-Son-Religion-America/dp/0465015026

One of two sites in Indian Wells Canyon:

Indian Wells Canyon Pano_lxx_0.58_0.90_1.50 by tomteske, on Flickr


IMG_4288 by tomteske, on Flickr

Was planning on visiting the second site in the morning but constant 30-50 mph winds became unbearable so we just packed up at 0300 and headed north. Ended up near a site called Ayers Rock, reportedly the most researched picto site in California. Also one of the most plundered.

Ayers Rock is the large boulder at ground level left ot the Joshua Tree.

Ayers Rock Pano by tomteske, on Flickr

Ayers Rock Panel 1_lxx_0.40_0.84_1.14 by tomteske, on Flickr

Not your typical anthropomorphs!

Ayers Rock Bunny by tomteske, on Flickr

Very nice sheep and antelope panel.


Ayers Rock Panel_lxx_0.42_0.84_1.38 by tomteske, on Flickr

Walking back to the truck, found this really nice large projectile point with a broken tip and missing base. Probably the largest point I've ever seen and definitely atlatl/spear material.

Ayers Rock Point by tomteske, on Flickr

We next headed up to the Bishop area. The heat kinda limited our activities but spent a relaxing evening near Buttermilk Boulders. Here's a rock art site associated with this area.

Buttermilk Boulder Pano_lxx_0.36_0.78_1.02 by tomteske, on Flickr

Went up Silver Canyon Rd toward the Ancient Bristlecone Pine Forest, a rather steep (4-Lo) route to the crest of the White Mts. Saw a ewe group of five ewes and two lambs. Not sure if that's a good or bad ratio of mommies to babies but you sheep counters would know. Almost felt like Buford with my camera a couple times since the sheep were pretty close to the road smile

Ewe Group With Two Lambs by tomteske, on Flickr

Ewe on the DL by tomteske, on Flickr

Silver Canyon Switchbacks by tomteske, on Flickr

Camped at a nice plateau at about 8300 ft but still in the 90s when we got there. The evenings were always cool and had a great view of the night sky and Milky Way.

Silver Canyon Road by tomteske, on Flickr

Visited the Patriarch Grove.

Patriarch Grove by tomteske, on Flickr

Patriarch Grove A Giraud by tomteske, on Flickr

Found a nice ?western stemmed point in the middle of the tundra.

Great Basin Stemmed Point by tomteske, on Flickr

Great Basin Stemmed Point 3 by tomteske, on Flickr

Lots of nice little flowers in the tundra.

Tundra Flowers by tomteske, on Flickr

Tundra Flowers 2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Hawk near a water trough.

Hawk at Trough 2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Hawk at Trough by tomteske, on Flickr

Spent one night at Alabama Hills which is pretty, but.... Headed up to Whitney Portal for a mandatory water fall sighting per the spouse.

IMG_4411 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_4403 by tomteske, on Flickr

One last rock art site on the way home.

Walker Creek Boulder_xp-0.25_1.52 by tomteske, on Flickr

And probably the wife's favorite camping spot after five days in the heat smile Did hook her up with a new shower setup and awning which was greatly appreciated by all.

IMG_4439 by tomteske, on Flickr

About 1K mlles driving, maybe a couple miles hiking and another great time in the outdoors. Enjoy! Tom
23 days ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
tekewin wrote:
That's a fun hike. Great photos and stuff from the register. I remember lots of agave when you first leave the road.

There is a phenomenal amount of Cholla cactus. I have never been 'bit' by some many in any trip. I think at least 20 times I got jumped.
edited by Rocko1 on 7/10/2020
25 days ago
Topic:
Diablo BM

tekewin
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tekewin
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Topic: Diablo BM
That's a fun hike. Great photos and stuff from the register. I remember lots of agave when you first leave the road.
6/19/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
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Very interesting. The whole under water archaeological community will no doubt "bring up" new pieces to the puzzle of the history human occupation of our area. I always thought whole different civilizations came and went along the coast, the mountains and the desert. The oldest clues seem to be underwater up to miles off shore all along the San Diego county coast and up to 300 feet below the surface. I need a submarine. Sign me up!
6/18/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
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rockhopper wrote:
Tommy. Book is on order. Looking forward to adding to the Library. On topic, Back in the 80's during my "Surfing Years" we would see scuba divers coming out of the ocean with stone tools and grinding metates from off shore. This was in the N. County near Encinitas. The divers could only go so deep so alot is still out there. 10,000 years ago the shore line was around 300 feet lower and up to miles out from the current shore line. At the Spindrift site in La Jolla the ocean bottom drops off quickly and the old shore line was only a few hundred yards out.

Here's an interesting article on La Jolla off shore archaeology. Fascinating stuff.
https://www.lajollalight.com/news/health-science/sd-scripps-center-marine-archaeology-20170803-story.html
6/17/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

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rockhopper wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.



Back in the 1990's our company ( Foundation / Structural Engineering / Construction) worked on the bluff house to the left of the top of the red outline. We had to excavate with Archaeology reps on site . Neat info that the Tennis pond was a former lagoon marsh. Great forum. Always learning something new.



Interesting. We have to have archaeologist and native representative approve the dig and site.
6/17/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
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Tommy. Book is on order. Looking forward to adding to the Library. On topic, Back in the 80's during my "Surfing Years" we would see scuba divers coming out of the ocean with stone tools and grinding metates from off shore. This was in the N. County near Encinitas. The divers could only go so deep so alot is still out there. 10,000 years ago the shore line was around 300 feet lower and up to miles out from the current shore line. At the Spindrift site in La Jolla the ocean bottom drops off quickly and the old shore line was only a few hundred yards out.
6/17/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
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Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.



Back in the 1990's our company ( Foundation / Structural Engineering / Construction) worked on the bluff house to the left of the top of the red outline. We had to excavate with Archaeology reps on site . Neat info that the Tennis pond was a former lagoon marsh. Great forum. Always learning something new.
6/10/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
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tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.
6/10/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
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There is this sign on the Scripps Institution of Oceanography campus as well. https://images.app.goo.gl/fMmz5J5RrYaXcSUZA
edited by ziphius on 6/10/2020
6/10/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
tommy750 wrote:
Nice TR Rocko1. Have only been there once in 2014 but the register had stuff back to 1955. Think there were two register caches near the benchmark if I recall correctly.

Carl Whitefield (2018_09_25 07_05_23 UTC) by tomteske, on Flickr

1957 by tomteske, on Flickr



Fantastic! I only saw one red can with two small spiral logs(one starting in 1992 the other 2019) in a ziplock. I didn't look for another can to be honest.
6/9/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Diablo BM
Nice TR Rocko1. Have only been there once in 2014 but the register had stuff back to 1955. Think there were two register caches near the benchmark if I recall correctly.

Carl Whitefield (2018_09_25 07_05_23 UTC) by tomteske, on Flickr

1957 by tomteske, on Flickr
6/9/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Brian
Brian
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Brian
Brian
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Topic: Diablo BM
I've done several trips to Sandstone Canyon by way of June before I had a car that could get there the usual way. It was always fun to run into people in Jeeps who weren't expecting to see anyone without a vehicle and couldn't figure out how I got there. The route goes by the base of Diablo but I've never gone up to the summit. I should add it to my list.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Britain
Britain
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Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Topic: Diablo BM
I'm at 'Sketchy"
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Topic: Diablo BM
Rocko1 wrote:
Britain wrote:
On my list for next year.

It's a good hike-great views. I did come down the southern spine that has some really narrow sections and it that was a bit sketchy with strong gusts. I then caught a drainage that connected to June wash. It's a nice area.



Seen the peak from the near end of Sandstone. Didnt realize there's a BM on it. Ill hit it from June since most of sandstone now has been blocked off.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
Britain wrote:
On my list for next year.

It's a good hike-great views. I did come down the southern spine that has some really narrow sections and it that was a bit sketchy with strong gusts. I then caught a drainage that connected to June wash. It's a nice area.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Britain
Britain
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Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
Topic: Diablo BM
On my list for next year.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
ziphius wrote:
Lizard is a desert iguana. Nice one. What is the status of the park open / closure?

Thank you.

What is open now?
Anza- Borrego Desert SP is open to the public for day-use activities only from sunrise to sunset. The park remains closed to camping (developed and primitive).
  • Backcountry Unpaved Roads for day-use activities that do not lead into Ocotillo Wells.
  • Hell Hole Day-use Area
  • Sunrise Trail Head Parking / Day-use Areas
  • Very limited parking is now available to the public.

What is currently closed at this park and throughout the State Park System?
At this park:
  • Camping (developed and primitive)
  • Backcountry Unpaved Roads that lead into Ocotillo Wells
  • Open Dispersed Backcountry Camping
  • Peg Leg Primitive Camping Area
  • Culp Valley Primitive Camping Area
  • Coyote Canyon Above 3rd Crossing
  • North Coyote Canyon / Turkey Track Access Gate
  • Borrego Palm Canyon Day-use and Campground
  • Tamarisk Grove Campground Campgrounds
  • Arroyo Salado Primitive Camp
  • Blair Valley Primitive Camp
  • Yaqui Pass Primitive Camp
  • Yaqui Well Primitive Camp
  • Bow Willow Primitive Camp
  • Mt. Palm Springs Primitive Camp
  • Fish Creek Primitive Camp
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.
Statewide:
  • Campgrounds.
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

ziphius
ziphius
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ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 832
Topic: Diablo BM
Lizard is a desert iguana. Nice one. What is the status of the park open / closure?
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
Took my first trip out on Sunday to AB since it closed. Hiked to Diablo benchmark via June wash. It was clear and very windy with some really strong gusts at the top. 75F when I got back to the car at 10:45am. I only saw 5 cars total in the park-all on the road-no people except the clerk at the Stagecoach store. No one at any trail head parking lots I passed. Was a bit strange. Felt good to be back.





Most of the flowers were gone at this point.


From a small bump going up June Wash towards Diablo.


At the top




Video-sorry for the shakiness. Trying 4k60fps format which apparently doesn't have good stabilization on my phone.

https://i.imgur.com/OOQkFcu.mp4

One of the better registers I have seen. Went back to 1992 and had someone sign about every 2-5 months.



Saw this lizard on the way back. Anyone know what kind?

https://i.imgur.com/38CzaKm.mp4

Trip was 10 miles and 1,365ft gain. All cross country-except short section along wash road.
No trash seen-20+ jackrabbits though.

Album- https://imgur.com/a/Kegm8qK

edited by Rocko1 on 6/8/2020
6/8/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
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rockhopper wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice finds. Neat adventure Tommy! Were the camping circles on the benches above the ancient lake shore line? The multiple lake fills over the past 12,000 years ( At least 8 full fills but probably many more) supported large populations at various periods of lake fills. Lake fills may have lasted 50 years or more with constant inflows from the Colorado river. Population peak may have reached 10,000 around the lake. Those stone tools could be 1000 years old or 10,000 years old.

Was exploring around Ocotillo and SW of the Coyote Mts. Lots of reported Archaic sites in that area. The Park spent a lot of time last year excavating such a site near Carrizo. The history of early man in this area is quite fascinating. The earliest first man site in San Diego is probably beneath the fancy homes south of the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club. Just finished reading this book on the subject and would definitely recommend it for those interested in the topic: https://sunbeltpublications.com/shop/first-people/



Thanks for the publication heads up. Will add this to my library. Looks like a collaboration of the latest information in our So Cal. area.

Quick relative story. Having been in the construction industry for nearing 40 years. I have seen a lot of excavations. Our company spent around 10 years doing remodels and new construction in the La Jolla / Mt. Soladad and Spindrift areas. The city required archaeological and seismic study trenches cut on the properties for inspection. Every excavation in the Spindrift area was full of shell middens, fire hearths and stone tools going back thousands of years. Many were deep.

Elsewhere up the coast I found a shell midden, mammal bones with charcoal 20 feet deep!

"Quite fascinating" is a great discription.
edited by rockhopper on 6/8/2020
edited by rockhopper on 6/8/2020




Interesting! Our company is doing a remodel in La Jolla and we are dealing this now. The footings are only 12-24" deep maybe a total of 100LF but the archaeologist is still required to inspect.
6/8/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 534
tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice finds. Neat adventure Tommy! Were the camping circles on the benches above the ancient lake shore line? The multiple lake fills over the past 12,000 years ( At least 8 full fills but probably many more) supported large populations at various periods of lake fills. Lake fills may have lasted 50 years or more with constant inflows from the Colorado river. Population peak may have reached 10,000 around the lake. Those stone tools could be 1000 years old or 10,000 years old.

Was exploring around Ocotillo and SW of the Coyote Mts. Lots of reported Archaic sites in that area. The Park spent a lot of time last year excavating such a site near Carrizo. The history of early man in this area is quite fascinating. The earliest first man site in San Diego is probably beneath the fancy homes south of the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club. Just finished reading this book on the subject and would definitely recommend it for those interested in the topic: https://sunbeltpublications.com/shop/first-people/



Thanks for the publication heads up. Will add this to my library. Looks like a collaboration of the latest information in our So Cal. area.

Quick relative story. Having been in the construction industry for nearing 40 years. I have seen a lot of excavations. Our company spent around 10 years doing remodels and new construction in the La Jolla / Mt. Soladad and Spindrift areas. The city required archaeological and seismic study trenches cut on the properties for inspection. Every excavation in the Spindrift area was full of shell middens, fire hearths and stone tools going back thousands of years. Many were deep.

Elsewhere up the coast I found a shell midden, mammal bones with charcoal 20 feet deep!

"Quite fascinating" is a great discription.
edited by rockhopper on 6/8/2020
edited by rockhopper on 6/8/2020
6/6/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
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Tommy, I don't get to pilot the UAVs, I'm one of the "whale finders" that helps direct the UAV towards the whales. It's kind of like sheep-counting, wait around for hours while nothing happens, and then something happens.


tommy750 wrote:
So Ziphius you get paid to do this stuff?? Dang. Guess some of us got those good guidance couselers

edited by ziphius on 6/6/2020
edited by ziphius on 6/6/2020
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Britain
Britain
Posts: 474
DJi makes some good drones. I was thinking about doing the same as Tommy. Just to see what something looks like from above.
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
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Posts: 924
ziphius wrote:


Gray whales from 150 ft altitude. Custom hexacopter with Sony A7R mirrorless body.

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.

You have any pics you could post from your work with that setup?? Would be very interesting to see.

edited by ziphius on 6/5/2020

Gray whales from 150 ft altitude. Custom hexacopter with Sony A7R mirrorless body.

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.

You have any pics you could post from your work with that setup?? Would be very interesting to see.

edited by ziphius on 6/5/2020
So Ziphius you get paid to do this stuff?? Dang. Guess some of us got those good guidance couselers smile
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 832


Gray whales from 150 ft altitude. Custom hexacopter with Sony A7R mirrorless body.

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.

You have any pics you could post from your work with that setup?? Would be very interesting to see.

edited by ziphius on 6/5/2020
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
tommy750 wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Sound like everyone is in agreement drones are awesome and terrible depending on how they're used. Ziphius, nice article on seal counting. My cheap drone camera now has more MP than the one in your article which is from 2011. Your Sony mirrorless setup is probably a completely different story! My little drone in intentionally 249 grams, one less than required for an FAA certificate which is .55 to 55lbs.

What interests me the most is high resolution panoramas and I think our area has a lot of possibilities.


What is your drones MP count Tommy? Some high res panos would be pretty fantastic.

Mine is 12.7MP and not bad for the price. Definitely could stitch a few pics together in Photoshop for a decent pano.



Thanks. It does give a great perspective.
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
ziphius wrote:
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.

You have any pics you could post from your work with that setup?? Would be very interesting to see.
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Sound like everyone is in agreement drones are awesome and terrible depending on how they're used. Ziphius, nice article on seal counting. My cheap drone camera now has more MP than the one in your article which is from 2011. Your Sony mirrorless setup is probably a completely different story! My little drone in intentionally 249 grams, one less than required for an FAA certificate which is .55 to 55lbs.

What interests me the most is high resolution panoramas and I think our area has a lot of possibilities.


What is your drones MP count Tommy? Some high res panos would be pretty fantastic.

Mine is 12.7MP and not bad for the price. Definitely could stitch a few pics together in Photoshop for a decent pano.
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
rockhopper wrote:
Nice finds. Neat adventure Tommy! Were the camping circles on the benches above the ancient lake shore line? The multiple lake fills over the past 12,000 years ( At least 8 full fills but probably many more) supported large populations at various periods of lake fills. Lake fills may have lasted 50 years or more with constant inflows from the Colorado river. Population peak may have reached 10,000 around the lake. Those stone tools could be 1000 years old or 10,000 years old.

Was exploring around Ocotillo and SW of the Coyote Mts. Lots of reported Archaic sites in that area. The Park spent a lot of time last year excavating such a site near Carrizo. The history of early man in this area is quite fascinating. The earliest first man site in San Diego is probably beneath the fancy homes south of the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club. Just finished reading this book on the subject and would definitely recommend it for those interested in the topic: https://sunbeltpublications.com/shop/first-people/
6/5/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 832
Tommy yeah the article is a little outdated! We're using a 36 MP Sony A7R on a hexacopter these days.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Park Closed?
Just saw the semi good news. Hopefully the park doesn’t get over run.

No dispersed camping is a bummer. I definitely don’t like camping near others, even before the pandemic. The sunrise to sunset hours are not great either.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

dsefcik
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dsefcik
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Topic: Park Closed?
http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=638

========

UPDATE (June 5, 2020) - As California State Parks begins working with locals on a phased and regionally-driven approach to increase access to state park units where compliance with state and local public health ordinances can be achieved, it is important for visitors to continue to practice physical distancing and avoid congregating with people outside their immediate household. Everyone has the responsibility to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.

Here are some guidelines for people visiting Anza-Borrego Desert State Park:

What is open now?
Anza- Borrego Desert SP is open to the public for day-use activities only from sunrise to sunset. The park remains closed to camping (developed and primitive).
  • Backcountry Unpaved Roads for day-use activities that do not lead into Ocotillo Wells.
  • Hell Hole Day-use Area
  • Sunrise Trail Head Parking / Day-use Areas
  • Very limited parking is now available to the public.

What is currently closed at this park and throughout the State Park System?
At this park:
  • Camping (developed and primitive)
  • Backcountry Unpaved Roads that lead into Ocotillo Wells
  • Open Dispersed Backcountry Camping
  • Peg Leg Primitive Camping Area
  • Culp Valley Primitive Camping Area
  • Coyote Canyon Above 3rd Crossing
  • North Coyote Canyon / Turkey Track Access Gate
  • Borrego Palm Canyon Day-use and Campground
  • Tamarisk Grove Campground Campgrounds
  • Arroyo Salado Primitive Camp
  • Blair Valley Primitive Camp
  • Yaqui Pass Primitive Camp
  • Yaqui Well Primitive Camp
  • Bow Willow Primitive Camp
  • Mt. Palm Springs Primitive Camp
  • Fish Creek Primitive Camp
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.
Statewide:
  • Campgrounds.
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.

Are there any new visitor guidelines?
Yes, please see below:
  • Stay Local: Stay close to home. Walk or bike into the park. Parking is very limited. Do not take road trips to parks and beaches or to neighboring states.
  • Stay Active: Keep walking, jogging, hiking and biking. Watch for one-way trails.
  • Stay Safer at 6 Feet: Maintain a physical distance of 6 feet or more. Gatherings, picnics and parties are not allowed. Visitors will be asked to leave if there are too many people at the park, beach or on trails to allow for the required physical distance.
  • Stay Clean: Be prepared. Bring soap/sanitizer and pack out all trash.
  • Stay Covered: wear a face covering whenever you are within six feet of another person who is not a member of your family or household.

Thank you for your patience and continued support of California State Parks as we work to limit your risk for exposure to COVID-19 in the outdoors. For more information, please visit parks.ca.gov/FlattenTheCurve.
edited by dsefcik on 6/4/2020
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

tekewin
tekewin
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tekewin
tekewin
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Great news! I'll be checking the web site tomorrow.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

deborah
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deborah
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
I just called the park. It sounds like they are planning to open up some access tomorrow for day use. (!!!!) Here's what I understood from the conversation:


Some jeep trails and parking areas will be open for day use. Access to Ocotillo Wells will remain closed for now. Campgrounds will still be closed. I believe that she said overnight camping is not yet allowed, but I don't know if that applies to backcountry trips. I could have that wrong. Coyote Canyon will still have the usual seasonal closure for Bighorn Sheep that started on June 1.

I certainly don't want to spread any unfounded rumors. But I'm so ridiculously happy even at the possibility of being back in our desert, I had to share with you guys. I guess we'll see if the updates happen tomorrow. I'm going to gas up my truck just in case. smile
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
tekewin wrote:
Called the state park today and they said no idea on re-opening AB, but it would be posted on the web site the day the decision was made. Not very helpful.

Thanks. I can't imagine there is any logic involved in what parks open when. AB is one of the largest, least dense parks.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

dsefcik
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dsefcik
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
railexplorer wrote:
Its probably closed because A) They don't realize the park exists. B) They have no plan and are winging it. C) All of the above.

Yeah I'm a bit over the handling of this whole thing.


Good Postingi agreeWhat He SaidLogic
6/4/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

tekewin
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tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 231
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Called the state park today and they said no idea on re-opening AB, but it would be posted on the web site the day the decision was made. Not very helpful.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
tommy750 wrote:
Sound like everyone is in agreement drones are awesome and terrible depending on how they're used. Ziphius, nice article on seal counting. My cheap drone camera now has more MP than the one in your article which is from 2011. Your Sony mirrorless setup is probably a completely different story! My little drone in intentionally 249 grams, one less than required for an FAA certificate which is .55 to 55lbs.

What interests me the most is high resolution panoramas and I think our area has a lot of possibilities.



What is your drones MP count Tommy? Some high res panos would be pretty fantastic.
6/4/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 534
Nice finds. Neat adventure Tommy! Were the camping circles on the benches above the ancient lake shore line? The multiple lake fills over the past 12,000 years ( At least 8 full fills but probably many more) supported large populations at various periods of lake fills. Lake fills may have lasted 50 years or more with constant inflows from the Colorado river. Population peak may have reached 10,000 around the lake. Those stone tools could be 1000 years old or 10,000 years old.
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

deborah
deborah
Posts: 90
deborah
deborah
Posts: 90
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Rocko1 wrote:
deborah wrote:
Yes, I guess it's just wishful thinking on my part. Looking at the public lands map layer on CalTopo, it seems the Pedro Fages Monument is in Anza Borrego as well.

Thanks for the info!



No problem. Cleveland NF is mostly open as well. You could park off S2 in this area(Pioneer Mail parking lot is open) and access the PCT and take it into AB if you wanted.



Oh that's a great recommendation. I'm thinking a weekday trip would be really nice. I'm due for a day off work. smile Thanks!!
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

railexplorer
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railexplorer
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Its probably closed because A) They don't realize the park exists. B) They have no plan and are winging it. C) All of the above.

Yeah I'm a bit over the handling of this whole thing.
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
tekewin wrote:
Thanks for the photos and update.

Can't believe AB is still closed. Most of ANF is open, OC trails and parks open. San Diego county had +2 cases today, almost nothing. Hair salons are open in the OC, but the 600,000 acres in AB is just too tight to be safe. I will call them tomorrow if I have time to find out why.
edited by tekewin on 6/3/2020

This one doesn't make sense-it's one of the safest/largest parks.
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

tekewin
tekewin
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tekewin
tekewin
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Thanks for the photos and update.

Can't believe AB is still closed. Most of ANF is open, OC trails and parks open. San Diego county had +2 cases today, almost nothing. Hair salons are open in the OC, but the 600,000 acres in AB is just too tight to be safe. I will call them tomorrow if I have time to find out why.
edited by tekewin on 6/3/2020
6/3/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
deborah wrote:
Yes, I guess it's just wishful thinking on my part. Looking at the public lands map layer on CalTopo, it seems the Pedro Fages Monument is in Anza Borrego as well.

Thanks for the info!



No problem. Cleveland NF is mostly open as well. You could park off S2 in this area(Pioneer Mail parking lot is open) and access the PCT and take it into AB if you wanted.
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

tommy750
tommy750
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tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Nice pics Rocko1. Like the one from the top.
6/2/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
Sound like everyone is in agreement drones are awesome and terrible depending on how they're used. Ziphius, nice article on seal counting. My cheap drone camera now has more MP than the one in your article which is from 2011. Your Sony mirrorless setup is probably a completely different story! My little drone in intentionally 249 grams, one less than required for an FAA certificate which is .55 to 55lbs.

What interests me the most is high resolution panoramas and I think our area has a lot of possibilities.
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

deborah
deborah
Posts: 90
deborah
deborah
Posts: 90
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Yes, I guess it's just wishful thinking on my part. Looking at the public lands map layer on CalTopo, it seems the Pedro Fages Monument is in Anza Borrego as well.

Thanks for the info!
6/2/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 832
Love the photos. Thanks for being a responsible drone operator and keeping it out of the park. Drones are like dogs, great.... but too many people own them. If you eventually want to upgrade to a fancier camera and a bigger system, Don Leroi at Aerial Imaging Systems builds a bunch of hexacopters for NOAA to photograph whales, sea lions, and penguins. We use mainly Sony mirrorless cameras on our systems. https://aerialimagingsolutions.com

Their training for these systems are taken seriously, FAA certification required. https://aerialimagingsolutions.com/training/
edited by ziphius on 6/2/2020
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
deborah wrote:
Thanks Rocko1 for the report and the lovely pictures.

Do you happen to know if the Sunrise Trailhead is open for parking? Although, that is within the Anza Borrego park boundaries, so I guess it's still closed...

I did not drive by it this weekend but 2 weeks ago it was closed and since AB website has not changed for a while I would assume it's closed. You can park at the Pedro Fages Monument turn out-it has been open for a while and should still be.
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

deborah
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deborah
deborah
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Thanks Rocko1 for the report and the lovely pictures.

Do you happen to know if the Sunrise Trailhead is open for parking? Although, that is within the Anza Borrego park boundaries, so I guess it's still closed...
6/2/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

deborah
deborah
Posts: 90
It does give a really interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing!
6/2/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Buford wrote:
Nice to see some greenery and flowers.

I went hiking in Cuyamaca Saturday. The parking pullouts along the 79 were open, not just the Sweetwater one listed.

As for crowds, it was not crowded at all, although I did not hike to a waterfall or peak. The parking pullout was overflowing with cars on return, but never saw most of the people.



It is. I saw many young pine trees 5-15' doing well. I made it to the peak and halfway down before I saw anyone. Passed 3 people before I got back to the car.

Strange Sweetwater was closed Saturday-it was open on Sunday-about 70% full as I passed it on the way out.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Buford
Buford
Posts: 311
Nice. I actually enjoy the pictures as much as I find drones obnoxious.

I saw someone flying a drone within feet over an active peregrine nest this weekend. I don’t know if they knew the nest was there. Sadly the falcons didn’t take out the drone for our entertainment.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Buford
Buford
Posts: 311
Buford
Buford
Posts: 311
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Nice to see some greenery and flowers.

I went hiking in Cuyamaca Saturday. The parking pullouts along the 79 were open, not just the Sweetwater one listed.

As for crowds, it was not crowded at all, although I did not hike to a waterfall or peak. The parking pullout was overflowing with cars on return, but never saw most of the people.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
dsefcik wrote:
That's nice...I was wondering, is the (Cuyamaca) park open for parking and hiking as usual? No restrictions?



Parking is open on streets as well at campgrounds($10-day use only currently). Most trails open.

What is open now?
  • Paso Picacho Day-Use
  • Green Valley Falls Day-Use
  • Merigan Day-Use
  • Sweetwater Highway 79 Turnout
  • Very limited parking is now available to the public

What is currently closed at this park and throughout the State Park System?

At this park:
  • Dyar Visitor Center and Day-Use
  • Stonewall Mine Day-Use
Statewide:
  • Campgrounds.
  • High public-use indoor facilities, including museums and visitor centers.
  • Special events and tours continue to be canceled until further notice.


Crowded though-much more than normal. I got to the parking turn out at 5:40am, no cars. When I got back at 9:30 it was full with about 15 cars. Go early..or mid-week.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

dsefcik
dsefcik
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dsefcik
dsefcik
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Topic: Colorado Desert From The Air
I like those red onion pics and the other IV pics also, nice work tommy750..Thumbs Up



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6/1/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

dsefcik
dsefcik
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dsefcik
dsefcik
Administrator
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Topic: Cuyamaca SP
That's nice...I was wondering, is the (Cuyamaca) park open for parking and hiking as usual? No restrictions?
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
Rocko1 wrote:
Tommy you have a fantastic eye for finding things! Great pictures and finds. I have considered a drone but have reservations after being out in nature and having them buzz around near me-the noise can be quite off putting.


Agree, those yahoos flying drones all over public spaces or 2 ft away from the wildlife need to stay away. That said, really think it would be a great addition to park volunteers needing to document change over time at sensitive cultural sites. For example, just noticed by drone photos someone had been substantially altering a well known spoked wheel geoglyph near Ocotillo in the past years. Changes were made to another rather obscure geoglyph as well. Do-gooders? Kumeyaay? I don't know, but I forwarded the info to BLM for follow up. Not sure what the sheep counters would have to say about drones as a supplemental viewing platform. Drones can be annoying and noisy but many including mine are rather invisible and inaudible at about 50 ft overhead and may not be an issue for careful wildlife observers.

One last thing. I never have GPS enabled for cameras and phones but your drone will. Had to remind myself to remove all GPS data from pics of sensitive sites.
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
Scooter wrote:
Thank you for a very interesting trip report. It sure has been a slow spring in the desert and on the blog. Thanks Again


2020 sure has been a terrible year for just about everything including enjoying the desert. Hopefully things will change soon
6/1/2020
Topic:
Cuyamaca SP

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Topic: Cuyamaca SP
Did a quick early hike to the peak in Cuyamaca Sunday to beat the crowds and heat. Everything is so green. Bugs are again out in full force. Was about 49F when I started at 6am and low 70's by 9:30am when I got back.

Sky looked really cool over Viejas Mtn.


The lake from near the top


Water flowing from a small tributary feeding Cold Stream at about 5,100ft.
https://imgur.com/FXllwXB



Pines are doing great this year. Plenty of young trees thriving as well.
https://i.imgur.com/iAz91Tp.mp4

Looking north from the peak.




9.75 miles, 2,300ft gain. Album https://imgur.com/a/EJYwWzG
edited by Rocko1 on 6/1/2020
6/1/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Tommy you have a fantastic eye for finding things! Great pictures and finds. I have considered a drone but have reservations after being out in nature and having them buzz around near me-the noise can be quite off putting.
5/31/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Scooter
Scooter
Posts: 64
Thank you for a very interesting trip report. It sure has been a slow spring in the desert and on the blog. Thanks Again
5/31/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 924
Got a relatively inexpensive drone (Mavic Mini) recently to see how the desert looks from above. Went out on several trips this month to photograph known cultural sites and a couple things I found on GE that may or may not be "real." Would rate my drone flying skills as comparable to a teenager on Day 1 of Driver's Ed but haven't crashed it yet so happy about that. All of the pics are non ABDSP

Here's an archaic site near Ocotillo described by Begole back in the 70's.

IMP-110 by tomteske, on Flickr

Tool were typically rather large and crude and pottery/small projectile points many years in the future. Here's a couple stone tools still lying on the ground. Both are made of the commonly used green porphyric metavolcanic (that green spotted stuff) rock and both heavily patinated indicating they've been there a long time.

IMP-110 Tool by tomteske, on Flickr

IMP-110 Tool2 by tomteske, on Flickr


Was pretty sure I'd found a new geoglyph when I spotted this guy but apparently it has previously been recorded and is associated with a large quarry site for, you guessed it, porphyritic green metavolcanic rock. The geoglyph is a serpentine line about 65-70 meters long. Tire tracks are in the top middle of the pic.

Geoglyph Drone by tomteske, on Flickr


Geoglyph by tomteske, on Flickr

Geoglyph2 by tomteske, on Flickr

I think this is a geoglyph that was transected by Old Hwy 80 years ago and even more so by I-8.

Geoglyph by tomteske, on Flickr

Nearby cleared circles on a bench overlooking the Ocotillo area.

Rock Circles by tomteske, on Flickr

A large cleared cicle with a smaller rock circle in the perimetry on a bench overlooking Ocotillo.

Rock Circle2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Rock Circle by tomteske, on Flickr

Went out today and took pics of the lake bed of Ancient Lake Cahuilla. Definitely a different perspective.

Red Onions by tomteske, on Flickr

Red Onions3 by tomteske, on Flickr

Tree on Canal Bank by tomteske, on Flickr

If you can't fathom how the Imperial Valley can use 2M acre feet of Colorado River water every year, wonder no longer.

River Water2 by tomteske, on Flickr

River Water by tomteske, on Flickr

Would really like to do more drone photography with a nicer camera after I learn how to not crash. Shows a completely unique perspective of what we've seen a million times. Enjoy! Tom
5/22/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 334
Topic: Park Closed?
The state reopened parking to 27 state parks a few days ago-unfortunately none in SD County.
5/22/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

Buford
Buford
Posts: 311
Buford
Buford
Posts: 311
Topic: Park Closed?
I am guessing the park needs guidance from Sacramento, all state parks appear to be under the same order. I was just looking up Cuyamaca and saw the same message from May 1st on their website.

Borrego Springs is still actively discouraging people from big cities from stopping in town for supplies.

I can’t wait for the park to reopen.

Edit->
Looks like Cuyamaca website just got updated. ABDSP still has the May 1st message.
edited by Buford on 5/22/2020




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