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21 days ago Topic: Alta Seca Bench rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Alta Seca Bench Nice expedition and great photos. Thanks for sharing. I also enjoy getting up there in the old growth trees.

24 days ago Topic: Alta Seca Bench Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Alta Seca Bench surfponto wrote: The views from the top are awesome. Crazy there was still snow up there. Yes we walked through some patches of snow. The pines at the top and on the bench are really fantastic. You do not feel like you are in Socal. Some sections of San Gorgonio-south side of Anderson Peak have some similar areas-giant old growth trees.

24 days ago Topic: Alta Seca Bench surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376 Topic: Alta Seca Bench The views from the top are awesome. Crazy there was still snow up there.

25 days ago Topic: Alta Seca Bench Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Alta Seca Bench I'll add that the Santa Rosa Truck Trail is in significantly worse shape than a year ago. There are a couple areas that are badly rutted. It's still passable with a Subaru, but it's slow going.

25 days ago Topic: Alta Seca Bench Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Alta Seca Bench A couple of weekends ago Brian and I did an overnight backpacking trip starting near Toro Peak, dropping off the Alta Seca bench and camping on the ridge, 5 miles south of where we started. This was plan B as another heat wave had hit and it was too hot near Rockhouse. It was nice and cool at the top of Toro although plenty warm near camp at 5,800ft. Our goal was to make it south along the ridge until we met up with the trail that goes down to Stiff. It was easy sailing through the pine forest sections of the bench. The real work started when we had to drop off the bench. Steep, brushy, lose rocks, cairns strewn sporadically from different routes-this made it harder for some reason. It’s slow going-1mph. Lots of back pedaling to get around obstacles. We stopped a couple miles short of the ridge that came up from Stiff and decided to just make camp. It was plenty warm. After a while I decided to try to make it to the spot above Stiff. Brian stayed back-the smart move. I wanted to see how fast I could get there-just over an hour for 1.75 miles-that was really pushing it. That section of the ridge was also relatively free of brush but you just can’t go much faster. There are nice pinon pines at that spot and plenty of places to camp had we made it. Looking north at the bench. The saddle to the right of the center peak is where you have to go.. Made it back to camp and was cooked. Was a windy night in the spot I had set up. The morning on the SR ridge are magical. The colors always blow me away. In the morning we started back up the bench-which was easier than going down. Besides a couple of navigation snafus it was an uneventful hike back to the pine forest- cool and less bugs than the day before. We talked about doing the entire ridge but near the end of the hike I think we both decided it was too much. Doing sections may be the best way to complete the entire ridge. Brian supplied the best pre and post hike beverage. I was very grateful. 10 miles, 2700ft gain/loss not including side trip to ridge above Stiff-that was 3.5 miles, 800ft gain extra.

3/15/2026 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Great flower shots. We just got back from the Jojoba Wash area. The cactus blooms are starting to really show.

3/12/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Brian. Thank you very much. I really appreciate the networking on this website

3/12/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Brian wrote: The issue isn't just the storm damage. The storm changed the course of the stream. It now flows along what was formerly the road between third crossing and the gate. Because of this, the park can't simply re-grade the road as they've done in the past. Opening the road would require coming up with a new route for that section, with all the environmental studies and permits such a thing would involve. The park hasn't been very forthcoming about whether a new road is in the planning stage or whether they even want to do it at all. Suffice it to say that even if they do want to do it, it probably won't happen for several years. It does seem like it's becoming more popular to backpack into Collins Valley and the park has lifted the restriction on that which was in place right after the storm. There was water in Cougar Canyon when I went last season, but I haven't gotten back there this season, so my info may be out of date.

3/11/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road The issue isn't just the storm damage. The storm changed the course of the stream. It now flows along what was formerly the road between third crossing and the gate. Because of this, the park can't simply re-grade the road as they've done in the past. Opening the road would require coming up with a new route for that section, with all the environmental studies and permits such a thing would involve. The park hasn't been very forthcoming about whether a new road is in the planning stage or whether they even want to do it at all. Suffice it to say that even if they do want to do it, it probably won't happen for several years. It does seem like it's becoming more popular to backpack into Collins Valley and the park has lifted the restriction on that which was in place right after the storm. There was water in Cougar Canyon when I went last season, but I haven't gotten back there this season, so my info may be out of date.

3/11/2026 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Coyote Canyon bi pass road I am looking for some help on the bi pass road which is closed due to storm damage. Does anyone know the status of it opening ? Also does anyone know if there is water in Cougar Canyon ? Thanks in advance Scooter

3/9/2026 Topic: Summer hiking Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper wrote: Brian wrote: rockhopper wrote: Did a neat exploration off the east side down into black rabbit towards Martinez That area has been on my radar lately. I never hear about anyone going there. Which is right up my alley. I found these photos from that trip. Mostly bushwaking down from the logging road off the east side. cheers That looks like my kind of exploring.

3/6/2026 Topic: Summer hiking Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Summer hiking Nice pics. I am hoping I can do something in that area in May when the desert gets too hot. I've always wanted to explore Ebbens Valley and I always thought I would approach it from the bottom. But now that you've got me looking at the topo map, it seems like it might be easier from the top.

3/5/2026 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Summer hiking Brian wrote: rockhopper wrote: Did a neat exploration off the east side down into black rabbit towards Martinez That area has been on my radar lately. I never hear about anyone going there. Which is right up my alley. I found these photos from that trip. Mostly bushwaking down from the logging road off the east side. cheers

3/1/2026 Topic: Summer hiking Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper wrote: Did a neat exploration off the east side down into black rabbit towards Martinez That area has been on my radar lately. I never hear about anyone going there. Which is right up my alley.

2/28/2026 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Rocko1 wrote: Looked like a really nice day. Update: Went out again last weekend after the storm to scope out some property and hot spring soak my overworked body. Sky valley and the San Andreas fault

2/28/2026 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Summer hiking Toro is great for base camp with water source nearby. Did a neat exploration off the east side down into black rabbit towards Martinez. The bench to cotton woods sounds neat also. Maybe find Figtree johns "lost gold mine" :-)

2/25/2026 Topic: Summer hiking Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Summer hiking I really enjoy the terrain up there and out to the bench. Brian and I have talked out doing a trip from the peak to the end of Rockhouse. Prob. better to start at the peak then drop down to cottonwoods.

2/24/2026 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Looked like a really nice day.

2/16/2026 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: San Andreas Fault trip and wildflowers Greetings adventure travelers. Took a quick trip out to the desert to get out and enjoy the weather and scope out some new hot spring soaking areas. Rockhopper The San Jacinto mountains from the east side. Desert daisies with Joshua Tree monument beyond. Desert flowers at San Andreas fault zone. Desert Lavender? Desert wildflowers still going. Incoming rains will extend the bloom. San Andreas fault with the mighty San Jacinto 10,851 ft. beyond. Second photo of same view as above. What are those three (3) objects. Not on lens. Are they 3 orbs?, 3 helicopters in distance. Three bees ! or dragon flies perhaps? (Water was flowing out of the fault nearby. Since dragon flies are always near a water source.) In flying formation! Cheers! edited by rockhopper on 2/16/2026 edited by rockhopper on 2/16/2026 edited by rockhopper on 2/19/2026

1/28/2026 Topic: Forum issues again surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376 Topic: Forum issues again Great thanks for the tip. I will take a look at what is involved and yes agree 100% about all the social media stuff. tekewin wrote: Nice photos! The San Gabriel mountains forum recently moved to PHPBB3, but it was a long, labor intensive process. They were able to preserve 95% of the posts and photos. I find value in forums that allow long form story telling without the distractions of social media platforms. Good luck if you decide to go with a new system.

1/28/2026 Topic: Forum issues again tekewin Posts: 394	tekewin Posts: 394 Topic: Forum issues again Nice photos! The San Gabriel mountains forum recently moved to PHPBB3, but it was a long, labor intensive process. They were able to preserve 95% of the posts and photos. I find value in forums that allow long form story telling without the distractions of social media platforms. Good luck if you decide to go with a new system.

1/26/2026 Topic: Forum issues again surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376 Topic: Forum issues again Sorry the forum was having issues again. Functionality has been restored but I had to disable email notifications. Mentioned to Daren that I may look for an alternative solution that is more robust and a little more up to current technologies. Anyway, thanks for your patience and thanks to all of you that keep this forum going. Bob Here are a couple of pictures I took a couple weeks ago near Bow Willow. edited by surfponto on 1/26/2026

1/26/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Bishop_Bob wrote: Greetings, fellow desert rats. I'm looking to backpack overnight from Culp Valley campground to South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon, traveling as far as the mouth of the canyon where it meets third palm grove. Will I have any luck along the way finding a campsite in this canyon - a flat space at least large enough for me to roll out my sleeping bag? Also, the greenery along the length of South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon (seen by satellite imagery) suggests water availability -- am I right, and if so, is it likely to be a flowing creek in early February? Sounds like a great trip. Post some pictures when you get back

1/26/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Let us know how it goes and post some pictures of your adventures Bishop_Bob wrote: Greetings, fellow desert rats. I'm looking to backpack overnight from Culp Valley campground to South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon, traveling as far as the mouth of the canyon where it meets third palm grove. Will I have any luck along the way finding a campsite in this canyon - a flat space at least large enough for me to roll out my sleeping bag? Also, the greenery along the length of South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon (seen by satellite imagery) suggests water availability -- am I right, and if so, is it likely to be a flowing creek in early February?

1/17/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Buford Posts: 471	Buford Posts: 471 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Depending on the route, could be interesting. I assume you know how rugged the terrain is? There will likely be water where the south fork meets the middle fork of Palm Canyon, although I have not been there for a couple years. Not sure about water in the South Fork itself. Overall water situation will depend on the time of year, how recent, and how much rain fell.

1/16/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon There are always places big enough to roll out a pad and bag. Hellhole Flat is a great area to camp and explore. Can't comment on the water, maybe somebody who has been out there recently will know.

1/15/2026 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Bishop_Bob Posts: 1	Bishop_Bob Posts: 1 Topic: South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon Greetings, fellow desert rats. I'm looking to backpack overnight from Culp Valley campground to South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon, traveling as far as the mouth of the canyon where it meets third palm grove. Will I have any luck along the way finding a campsite in this canyon - a flat space at least large enough for me to roll out my sleeping bag? Also, the greenery along the length of South Fork Borrego Palm Canyon (seen by satellite imagery) suggests water availability -- am I right, and if so, is it likely to be a flowing creek in early February?

12/8/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Yaqui Peak Thank you all for the info! Will have to check it out.

12/6/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 wrote: can you drive all the way to the top of the western Pinyon Ridge on Jasper Trail/Old Culp Valley Rd or are those dirt roads closed?. I've generally found the section from Ranchita to the Wilson TH to be in really good shape. The turnoff for Jasper trail is just after you start going downhill from Ranchita and it is super easy to miss unless you know right where it is. From there to Old Culp Valley road is easy enough to do in a passenger car. From the intersection with Old Culp Valley Road down to the Wilson trail is also generally good except sometimes has a lengthwise rut which I have generally been able to steer around. From the Wilson trail downhill to Culp Valley I would classify as 4WD only.

12/5/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 wrote: Nice TR Tekewin and thanks for getting the forum's winter season going! Pardon my ignorance, but can you drive all the way to the top of the western Pinyon Ridge on Jasper Trail/Old Culp Valley Rd or are those dirt roads closed? Have never been on Pinyon Ridge but looks like an interesting place to hike/camp. Old Culp Valley Rd for sure (or at least in 2021 and before) but most likely 4WD as there are deep ruts and off camber sections. I wanna say yes to Jasper trail but I never drove it that I remember. You can drive and camp OCVR out to the Pinyon Ridge trailhead.

12/5/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 394	tekewin Posts: 394 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 wrote: Nice TR Tekewin and thanks for getting the forum's winter season going! Pardon my ignorance, but can you drive all the way to the top of the western Pinyon Ridge on Jasper Trail/Old Culp Valley Rd or are those dirt roads closed? Have never been on Pinyon Ridge but looks like an interesting place to hike/camp. I don't know if those roads are open and/or in good shape. It's been quite a few years since I was hiking in that area. Hopefully, someone in the forum knows the answer and current status. I think those roads are all on public land.

12/5/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Yaqui Peak Nice TR Tekewin and thanks for getting the forum's winter season going! Pardon my ignorance, but can you drive all the way to the top of the western Pinyon Ridge on Jasper Trail/Old Culp Valley Rd or are those dirt roads closed? Have never been on Pinyon Ridge but looks like an interesting place to hike/camp.

12/3/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 394	tekewin Posts: 394 Topic: Yaqui Peak Brian wrote: Nice trip report. Rocko1 and I went to the guzzler from the other direction last year, starting from the Wilson trail. https://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic1729-pinyon-ridge-and-the-guzzler.aspx Very nice!

12/3/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Yaqui Peak Nice trip report. Rocko1 and I went to the guzzler from the other direction last year, starting from the Wilson trail. https://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic1729-pinyon-ridge-and-the-guzzler.aspx

12/2/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 394	tekewin Posts: 394 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik wrote: Every time I have driven out there I have always looked up and thought about an ascent from the cactus loop trail / yaqui campground area up one of the those fingers. Another trip I have thought of would be to park out in Culp Valley and backpack out to Yaqui peak and camp for the night and hike back the next day, exploring all the way. That would be a great trip from Culp Valley. I don't think the ridge between Wilson Benchmark and Yaqui is much traveled.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639 Topic: Yaqui Peak Every time I have driven out there I have always looked up and thought about an ascent from the cactus loop trail / yaqui campground area up one of the those fingers. Another trip I have thought of would be to park out in Culp Valley and backpack out to Yaqui peak and camp for the night and hike back the next day, exploring all the way.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 394	tekewin Posts: 394 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik wrote: Nice TR Only a hair more to go see the guzzlers. I went up Ship many moons ago, nice little bump off the hwy. I knew they were up the ridge somewhere, but wasn't sure how far. I wish I would have wandered up that way to take a look. Maybe next time.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639 Topic: Yaqui Peak Nice TR Only a hair more to go see the guzzlers. I went up Ship many moons ago, nice little bump off the hwy.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Yaqui Peak Nice trip. I have not considered doing that one. Thanks for the trip report. One Rosy Boa crossing the road in Blair Valley a few years ago.

12/1/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376	surfponto Administrator Posts: 1376 Topic: Yaqui Peak Looks like a great trip and the weather looks perfect. Have never seen a rosy boa out there only a red racer when Daren and I were hiking around Indian Valley. Thanks for posting.👍🏻

11/30/2025 Topic: Yaqui Peak tekewin Posts: 394	tekewin Posts: 394 Topic: Yaqui Peak It's been too long since I visited Anza-Borrego. I went back to pick up some lesser peaks I've missed like Plum Peak (unofficial near Sentenac). After that quickie, I drove up Yaqui Pass Road and parked at a turnout on the west side below Ship Benchmark. Ship had a benchmark with a lot of signatures. From there, I went cross country to Yaqui Peak (aka peak 3398). I debated whether to take a gully up or stick to the ridges. There were three major gullies, I took the middle one that ended on a ridge south of the summit. There were also a series of class 2 dry falls that made it fun. I spotted some cairns at a few falls marking bypass routes. This gully was not a stranger to humans. After intersecting the ridge, I continued another mile weaving around cactus. On the way, I stumbled across a rosy boa, the first I'd seen in over 100 trips to the desert. It's head was in a hole and it was sluggish in the cool weather. Ship Benchmark Yaqui Peak on the right In the gully Yaqui Peak summit, ammo box. Wilson Benchmark somewhere on the ridge behind. Yaqui Peak had a metal ammo box containing several registers going back to 1997. Yaqui sported a beautiful view of Borrego Springs to the north and some of my favorite desert mountains: San Ysidro, Indianhead, Coyote, the Santa Rosa ridge, and even snowy San Jacinto. Yaqui exceeded expectations. It seemed this peak is only climbed a few times a year. Heading down, I stuck to the ridge which was a little easier. The ridge ended at Yaqui Pass Road and I walked back along a sandy wash about 30' below the road. 7 miles round trip, 2000' gain. Looking back at where I started Borrego Springs below. Snowy San Jacinto distant left.

7/23/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland davidwyby wrote: Very dry everywhere this year (or two) can't keep the dust down. Stop by sometime, Britain. How have been David? Well stop by next time at the desert house.

7/23/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland davidwyby Posts: 48	davidwyby Posts: 48 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Very dry everywhere this year (or two) can't keep the dust down. Stop by sometime, Britain.

7/23/2025 Topic: The Santa Rosas Sawmill Trail (Sort Of) davidwyby Posts: 48	davidwyby Posts: 48 Topic: The Santa Rosas Sawmill Trail (Sort Of) Howdy, all. I became friends with Buford Crites a few years ago by finding the cabin ransacked and calling him. Took a few trips up a year to escape the heat and maintain the cabin. After his passing I haven't been up much, been pursuing other interests, but went up and camped last weekend. I'll post some pics and links, my Santa Rosa-itis has flared up again. :-) I want to see if I can get in touch with Harry Quinn and pick his brain on history up there. If you google him and Pinyon Pines, as well as Ann Japenga you'll find enough to keep you busy reading about the area for a while. oops, forgot pics have to be hosted and linked...Haven't used any hosting svcs in years. edited by davidwyby on 7/24/2025

7/16/2025 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash TheFastRunner Posts: 2	TheFastRunner Posts: 2 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash Maybe. I didn’t try to dig it out at all, but it may be possible. The standing water that was there looked pretty green so I would leave that alone.

7/15/2025 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash Interesting find! Was there enough to collect if needed?

7/13/2025 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Nice. On my list to visit now.

7/13/2025 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story The pictures in the article are from the artwork from Indian hill. Compared them to the ones I took.

7/12/2025 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash TheFastRunner Posts: 2	TheFastRunner Posts: 2 Topic: Upper Palo Verde Wash This is a couple years old, but I recently found the forum and thought I would add to some of the other reports in here. My family loves spending time in Anza Borrego and I've done a number of hikes and backpacking trips in the area. It really is amazing what you can find out there just a couple hours from LA or San Diego. On a prior hike to Rattlesnake Spring I hiked down into Palo Verde wash on the way out and noticed the huge dry fall that separates Lower Palo Verde wash and Upper Palo Verde wash. It's at least 100'; I would love to see what it looks like during a heavy rain. On a number of topo maps it shows there is a spring (Palo Verde Spring) on the headwall of Lower Palo Verde wash, but I had not seen any sign of water in that area. I decided to put together a hike that would take me up into Upper Palo Verde wash, then up to the mountain that looms over the wash before hiking across to Pyramid Peak and back down into Smoke Tree Canyon. I hadn't been into Smoke Tree Canyon before and wanted to see the water tanks as well before I took the cut across back into Palo Verde wash to get back to the car. On New Years Eve I set off and climbed the steep trail that brings you out of Palo Verde wash and up onto the ridge. From there I hiked a little further to get above the upper section of the wash before I dropped back down to Upper Palo Verde wash. The way down was not a lot of fun. Upper Palo Verde wash is great--I highly recommend exploring it. The section right before the drop off is really amazing--it's' completely scoured from water and is just granite. I was a little nervous around the edge--it's a long way down. It was in this area (noted on the track below) where I think I found a small spring (pictured). There was no standing water or even wet gravel anywhere else on this hike and there hadn't been any recent rain. I wonder if this is "Palo Verde Spring" as called out on some of the topo maps, or if it's something else entirely. Worth checking out--always exciting to find sources of water out here. From here I climbed out of the wash and made my way to the top of the nearby mountain to take a break. Tons of Cholla on the way up but manageable (pictured). Beautiful views from the top, especially with some morning fog in the valley. From here, it was a fairly easy cross country hike over to Pyramid. Pyramid was really windy, but again great views from the top. Going down I wasn't sure if there was a path so I just went straight down the face towards Smoke Tree Canyon, which was easy enough. I think there's a trail that stays out of the upper section of the canyon but I hadn't been here before and I knew if I stayed in the canyon I couldn't get lost. Unfortunately there are a few small dry falls that need to be navigated. This is not my favorite thing to do, especially by myself but it wasn't too much of a problem and otherwise the canyon was a lot of fun to descend. There wasn't an easy way around that I could see, so it's probably best to find a path that avoids this altogether. I included pictures of a couple of them. Once I got down into the flatter section I detoured to check out the water tanks (fairly full) then found the cut off that led back towards Palo Verde wash and the Moly Mine. All in the hike was 10.8 miles with 3,937 feet of elevation gain. It took me five hours with a stop for lunch. Has anyone else spent any time in the upper section of the Palo Verde wash? It looks like you could almost follow it to the top of Mile High Mountain, which I might try later. I've done Rabbit and Villager, and feel like I need to cross mile high off the list. But it's just such a long hike any way you go. I've also been meaning to hike Indian Head some time, maybe this fall. So many great things to see in the area.

7/12/2025 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story Thanks for posting. Will have to check out. Welcome to the forum! Trekking in the wilderness. I try to connect with the sense of awe and wonder the ancient native people must have felt.

7/11/2025 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story Karan77 Posts: 1	Karan77 Posts: 1 Topic: DesertUSA - Shaman Cave story The Shaman Cave story on DesertUSA offers a fascinating glimpse into the rich cultural and spiritual history of the American Southwest. It captures the mystery and reverence surrounding the sacred places used by Native American shamans for rituals and ceremonies. The article paints a vivid picture of the desert landscape and the hidden stories carved into stone, passed down through generations. I was especially intrigued by the blend of natural beauty and spiritual symbolism described in the narrative. This is a must-read for anyone interested in Native American heritage, desert exploration, or the mystical side of the Southwest. https://teerresulttoday.org/

7/8/2025 Topic: Summer hiking Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Summer hiking Interesting

7/7/2025 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Thanks for sharing and the excellent photos! I have been meaning to visit there and soak in the hot springs. enjoy your olla. Looks very cool!

7/7/2025 Topic: Summer hiking rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Summer hiking Great place to escape the heat. I have enjoyed many camps on the sides of Toro peak over the decades. Sweet water was always flowing at "the spring" to tank up. Last car camp (truck) was off an old logging road heading east / south east from the main road near the spring. My understanding of the lack of Native occupation at up in the higher mountain areas is that is home to the spirits. edited by rockhopper on 7/8/2025

7/4/2025 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Agua Caliente Cultural Museum Thank You Tommy for the suggestion. Great museum ! I am trying to make it to Barona’s. Just about to go when Covid hit.

7/4/2025 Topic: Summer hiking Scooter Posts: 121	Scooter Posts: 121 Topic: Summer hiking We all know the desert is too hot. Last year we went and car camped up on Toro Peak. Then did day hikes on the bench east of Toro. It amazes me that there are no signs of Native American occupation. Not one shard of pottery ! The helicopter crash site is just North of the landing pad east of Toro Peak. We camped about a half mile before the locked gate to Toro Peak on the North side of the road. Nice campsite.

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 wrote: Britain wrote: Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy. Was it this trip? https://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1665-lucia-and-alamo-canyon-rock-house-ruins--day-bp.aspx Was on a 2/2022 BP trip from Rattlesnake to Wonderstone to Travertine Palms but don't think I posted on that one. Agree, lots of interesting trails out there. Could be that hike. Wasnt you it is was Gary who was in the picture. He was off in the distance with the Salton in the background.

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy. Was it this trip? https://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1665-lucia-and-alamo-canyon-rock-house-ruins--day-bp.aspx Was on a 2/2022 BP trip from Rattlesnake to Wonderstone to Travertine Palms but don't think I posted on that one. Agree, lots of interesting trails out there.

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639	dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2639 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy. From Rattlesnake, you can head up the hills S/SE and find a trail that will take you over to Mile High and that general area. Lots of old trails and roasting pits on those ridges. Just gotta go explore..!

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy. Tommy will chime in. I am amazed at all the old native trails interlacing the Santa Rosas. The ones on the east as you refer are seldom hiked but worth the effort! edited by rockhopper on 6/11/2025

6/11/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Tommy posted a picture about 5 years ago of him on the old Indian trail above the Salton sea. Up east of Rattlesnake and south east of Mile High. Picture stuck in my mind of something I wanted to do. Dont think Ill get up there anytime soon. Epic Picture At least I think it was Tommy.

6/10/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Buford Posts: 471	Buford Posts: 471 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Williamson is fun, did it a couple years ago via Shepherd pass and the bowl. May as well hit Tyndall while you are in the area. Cactus to clouds is another fun one. I use metal hiking poles. With all the bushwhacking, I don't think carbon ones would survive the way I use them.

6/7/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Finally did The Ramp rockhopper wrote: Britain wrote: tommy750 wrote: Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I saw Mile High leering at me a couple times on the way up and down but just wasn't ready for that add on Buddy and me did Cactus to clouds the following week. Working at getting shape to tackle Mt Williamson again. Group of us did it in the late 70's. But lol by friend busted his ankle a week before we were to go. Mt Williamson! The mighty Sierras! Now you're talking. I spent 20 years of summers peak bagging and fishing above timberline. Good luck. Solo'd it back in the 90's. Day hike bottom to top and back. 1 Qt. of water, jerky and a camera. No hiking poles! In the late 70's we hit Williamson 2 times. First time after the boulder field and before the ladder we camped but a storm moved through during the night and dumped a couple of feet of snow in front of us. Wet frozen stuff. WE turned around. Second time we got the top. The third time same guy we went up broke his ankle but we were both in our late 50's at that time. Fun stuff couldnt do it now.

6/6/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: tommy750 wrote: Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I saw Mile High leering at me a couple times on the way up and down but just wasn't ready for that add on Buddy and me did Cactus to clouds the following week. Working at getting shape to tackle Mt Williamson again. Group of us did it in the late 70's. But lol by friend busted his ankle a week before we were to go. Mt Williamson! The mighty Sierras! Now you're talking. I spent 20 years of summers peak bagging and fishing above timberline. Good luck. Solo'd it back in the 90's. Day hike bottom to top and back. 1 Qt. of water, jerky and a camera. No hiking poles!

6/5/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I highly recommend the Cascade Mountain Tech carbon poles. Costco has them from time to time $30. Parts are inexpensive also. I have beat the snot out of mine and they hold up well.

6/4/2025 Topic: New Camera Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: New Camera tommy750 wrote: Great choice and great pics! Used to drag my dslr around in my backpack but gave up cuz carrying an extra 5+ lbs was often the break even point between fun/not fun. Yeah. I mount the dslr on my shoulder strap and sometimes pack a long lens at least when I was younger. Now just the dslr.

6/4/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 wrote: Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I saw Mile High leering at me a couple times on the way up and down but just wasn't ready for that add on Buddy and me did Cactus to clouds the following week. Working at getting shape to tackle Mt Williamson again. Group of us did it in the late 70's. But lol by friend busted his ankle a week before we were to go.

6/4/2025 Topic: New Camera tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: New Camera Great choice and great pics! Used to drag my dslr around in my backpack but gave up cuz carrying an extra 5+ lbs was often the break even point between fun/not fun.

6/4/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain wrote: Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago. I saw Mile High leering at me a couple times on the way up and down but just wasn't ready for that add on

6/4/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Upper June Wash Brian wrote: Rocko1 wrote: Same. Every time I am up there I say 'someday'... I think the "easy" way to do a backpacking trip to those flats would be to drive to Hapaha flat and start from the guzzler. I haven't been able to make it to Hapaha by car for a few years now due to a rock obstacle blocking the road, but I recently saw a Facebook post from someone who made it there in a Forrester. Made me wonder if the obstacle has recently been cleared. Yeah, there's always that one place. I last drove through there in 2/2024 and noticed someone had removed a couple large boulders on the north side of the track that were an issue (to a pickup at least) the previous month but not sure how things are now. Used to be easy after a dozer went through there sometime around 2013 as I recall. Is Pinyon Mt Rd up to Pinyon Mt and then hike to Whale an option these days? Havent been up that road for years. The Spot by tomteske, on Flickr

6/3/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Upper June Wash Rocko1 wrote: Same. Every time I am up there I say 'someday'... I think the "easy" way to do a backpacking trip to those flats would be to drive to Hapaha flat and start from the guzzler. I haven't been able to make it to Hapaha by car for a few years now due to a rock obstacle blocking the road, but I recently saw a Facebook post from someone who made it there in a Forrester. Made me wonder if the obstacle has recently been cleared.

6/3/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Nice pics and report. Did Villager a long time ago and tagged Mile high at the same time. Walmart sells cheap trek poles. Still have my black diamonds I bought about 20 years ago.

6/3/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Upper June Wash ziphius wrote: Great trip Tom, the 'old way' was the best route. I've looked longingly at those flats east of Whale Peak during a camp summit, gotta get out there. Best, Jim Same. Every time I am up there I say 'someday'...

6/3/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 wrote: Rocko1 wrote: Very nice! And not many people which is an added bonus. Too bad about the hiking pole. I have snapped sections in the same manner. Yeah, I'll try to be a bit more careful next time. BTW, recently enjoyed watching a YT WolfeAdventures trip up to Villager/Rabbit! Oh glad you liked it!

5/26/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Upper June Wash ziphius wrote: Great trip Tom, the 'old way' was the best route. I've looked longingly at those flats east of Whale Peak during a camp summit, gotta get out there. Best, Jim Hi Ziphius, glad to hear you're still getting out. Take care! Tom

5/23/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash ziphius Posts: 912	ziphius Posts: 912 Topic: Upper June Wash Great trip Tom, the 'old way' was the best route. I've looked longingly at those flats east of Whale Peak during a camp summit, gotta get out there. Best, Jim

5/20/2025 Topic: New Camera Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: New Camera tekewin wrote: Wow, great photos! I admire the quality. I'm too cheap to spring for a pro rig like that. Well done. lol. Im retired and sitting on my retirement savings. Best spend it before I pass on. Dont want to leave the wife too much.

5/20/2025 Topic: New Camera Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: New Camera Buford wrote: Nice upgrade! That is a great camera body. I bet it makes the old dslr feel like using a rotary phone on a landline in 2025. I’ve taken my Sony full frame and 600mm on some tougher hikes. Always makes me a little nervous. My old camera is a crop sensor. I have a quick-release system on my shoulder strap, camera mounts there. I'll have the 18-135 on the camera mounted but pack the 100-400. Yes, it's hard going back to the old dslr, especially now that you can see the histogram live.

5/20/2025 Topic: New Camera Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: New Camera dtoujours wrote: Nice purchase! Where did you take the photo of the burrowing owl? Near NAF El Centro edited by Britain on 5/20/2025

5/13/2025 Topic: New Camera tekewin Posts: 394	tekewin Posts: 394 Topic: New Camera Wow, great photos! I admire the quality. I'm too cheap to spring for a pro rig like that. Well done.

5/13/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash tekewin Posts: 394	tekewin Posts: 394 Topic: Upper June Wash Nice trip! That dry fall was unexpected. What a cool formation. Thanks for sharing.

5/10/2025 Topic: New Camera dtoujours Posts: 40	dtoujours Posts: 40 Topic: New Camera Nice purchase! Where did you take the photo of the burrowing owl?

5/10/2025 Topic: New Camera Buford Posts: 471	Buford Posts: 471 Topic: New Camera Nice upgrade! That is a great camera body. I bet it makes the old dslr feel like using a rotary phone on a landline in 2025. I’ve taken my Sony full frame and 600mm on some tougher hikes. Always makes me a little nervous.

5/9/2025 Topic: New Camera Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: New Camera Finally broke down and got a new camera. Canon R5 Mark2 full frame and a few RF Lenses. I wont be taking it out packing and will still use the older DSLR for it has the rock rash don't want to damage the new one ..not yet. Went out on time in the rig but nothing to capture worth mentioning. Burrowing Owl. @800mm Grand Funk Railroad Moon at 800mm with the new 200-800 lens. LOL 20ft below sea level. Moon at 2030mm (8 inch Telescope). Both with really bad seeing conditions. edited by Britain on 5/9/2025

5/5/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland tommy750 wrote: Desert hiking weather is fading fast. Nice to see you and your wife got a chance to get out there, Britain. This coming Monday is looking like one of the last days for a while to enjoy a hike in the 70's-80's. Well I did get in a few holes this season. Missed a few it just seemed more windy this year. Currently out of the desert but I think by the time I return in May the dragon will be back.

5/3/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Brian wrote: tommy750 wrote: Brian wrote: Glad someone's getting out there. A fractured ankle meant an early end to the season for me. With any luck I'll be ready to go when next season comes around. Brian, were you near civilization or way out there when you fractured your ankle? That's gotta suck. Good luck on your recovery! It was on the trip to Agua Alta spring that I recently did with Rocko1. I fell right after we left camp, so we were still 10 miles from the car. I used ibuprofen and some oxycontin that I keep in my pack for just such an occasion. It didn't make the experience pain-free, but probably made it better than it would have been otherwise. Having said that, although it did slow me down the pain was never severe. I went about my daily life for a week afterward not realizing that anything was broken. I only decided to have it checked out when some time had passed and the swelling wasn't going down. When I broke mine I duct taped the ankle to hold it together. Made a crutch from some dead stalks from a cactus. Wasnt fun getting out.

5/3/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland tommy750 wrote: Brian wrote: Glad someone's getting out there. A fractured ankle meant an early end to the season for me. With any luck I'll be ready to go when next season comes around. Brian, were you near civilization or way out there when you fractured your ankle? That's gotta suck. Good luck on your recovery! It was on the trip to Agua Alta spring that I recently did with Rocko1. I fell right after we left camp, so we were still 10 miles from the car. I used ibuprofen and some oxycontin that I keep in my pack for just such an occasion. It didn't make the experience pain-free, but probably made it better than it would have been otherwise. Having said that, although it did slow me down the pain was never severe. I went about my daily life for a week afterward not realizing that anything was broken. I only decided to have it checked out when some time had passed and the swelling wasn't going down.

5/3/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Buford wrote: Great trip. The views from the ramp are some of the best in the area. The ramp is the "easy" way up to Villager. The easy way sounds about right.

5/3/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Brian wrote: Glad someone's getting out there. A fractured ankle meant an early end to the season for me. With any luck I'll be ready to go when next season comes around. Brian, were you near civilization or way out there when you fractured your ankle? That's gotta suck. Good luck on your recovery!

5/3/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Desert hiking weather is fading fast. Nice to see you and your wife got a chance to get out there, Britain. This coming Monday is looking like one of the last days for a while to enjoy a hike in the 70's-80's.

5/3/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Looks like you all had a nice day hike. Thanks for the post. Brian: Gook luck with that ankle. It should heal and you will hiking again. No pain meds. Go old school.

5/2/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Brian wrote: Glad someone's getting out there. A fractured ankle meant an early end to the season for me. With any luck I'll be ready to go when next season comes around. It took nearly 6 months when I busted up my ankle to get in any miles. Best of luck.

5/1/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Brian Posts: 262	Brian Posts: 262 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Glad someone's getting out there. A fractured ankle meant an early end to the season for me. With any luck I'll be ready to go when next season comes around.

5/1/2025 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Britain Posts: 627	Britain Posts: 627 Topic: Carrizo Creek Badland Did a loop through the badlands starting where Canyon Sin Nombre and Carrizo creek meet. Headed south and up and over the first hill into the washes that butt up against the Coyote's. 7 miler temps started at 75 but quickly went into the mid 90's. Nothing worth the mention except getting out. Looking back towards Whale and Granite. Nice day out. Into the washes. The washes lol all look the same. Really dry out. After roaming about up through this, nearing noon we took a break. Wife shadowing. Had lunch near the Leckie BM. Exited the washes near the Leckie BM. Usually the wash near here is pretty swampy but it was bone dry today. We took a small wash up near the exit into the creek instead of following the cliffs. Found a steep drop off into the creek area. Wash was green but dry. Doesnt look like the removal of the Tamarisk worked. 2 mylars removed. edited by Britain on 5/1/2025

4/23/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Buford Posts: 471	Buford Posts: 471 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Great trip. The views from the ramp are some of the best in the area. The ramp is the "easy" way up to Villager.

4/23/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Rocko1 wrote: Very nice! And not many people which is an added bonus. Too bad about the hiking pole. I have snapped sections in the same manner. Yeah, I'll try to be a bit more careful next time. BTW, recently enjoyed watching a YT WolfeAdventures trip up to Villager/Rabbit!

4/23/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash tommy750 Posts: 1096	tommy750 Posts: 1096 Topic: Upper June Wash Rocko1 wrote: Now that's a trip! I always wanted to hit Whale form this side. This has inspired me to do it next season. Agree. There seems like ten routes up Whale and they all look pretty interesting.

4/22/2025 Topic: Upper June Wash Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Upper June Wash Now that's a trip! I always wanted to hit Whale form this side. This has inspired me to do it next season.

4/22/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Rocko1 Posts: 631	Rocko1 Posts: 631 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Very nice! And not many people which is an added bonus. Too bad about the hiking pole. I have snapped sections in the same manner.

4/21/2025 Topic: Finally did The Ramp rockhopper Posts: 689	rockhopper Posts: 689 Topic: Finally did The Ramp Yes, that's what I remember reading. Around 500 million years ago!

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