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3 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

Rocko1
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The state reopened parking to 27 state parks a few days ago-unfortunately none in SD County.
3 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

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Topic: Park Closed?
I am guessing the park needs guidance from Sacramento, all state parks appear to be under the same order. I was just looking up Cuyamaca and saw the same message from May 1st on their website.

Borrego Springs is still actively discouraging people from big cities from stopping in town for supplies.

I can’t wait for the park to reopen.

Edit->
Looks like Cuyamaca website just got updated. ABDSP still has the May 1st message.
edited by Buford on 5/22/2020
5 days ago
Topic:
Park Closed?

tekewin
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Anybody heard any rumors about re-opening? Park web site was last updated May 1, but still says everything closed including dirt roads.
7 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
dsefcik wrote:
Rocko1..nice...are you getting the CNF permits or just going out? Was half thinking for next weekend but we always get the (free) permits.

I applied for a permit and got a response from CNF ranger saying until the Descanso station is back open, no permits are required.
7 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Rocko1..nice...are you getting the CNF permits or just going out? Was half thinking for next weekend but we always get the (free) permits.
7 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
The wife and I did a quick overnight back in the CNF on Saturday. Was warm during the day, got to 49F at night, slight breeze. Really nice with the only exception being the bugs-out in full force-gnats, mosquito, flying ants, etc. Head nets really saved us, best 1oz item.



Sunrise comes early this time of year 5:41am




Was a nice trip.
8 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

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tommy750 wrote:
For the briefest of moments before Daren's ebike build was complete, I relished watching him struggle to keep up with me! Sadly, those days are over. Great build Daren. You are a multi talented guy! You ever though about getting one of those helmet thingies to protect your bean?? In camo of course smile

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8 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

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Britain wrote:
Cool build. Do the batteries build heat when on?



No idea...it's in ammo box for a reason...Thumbs Up

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edited by dsefcik on 5/17/2020
9 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

Britain
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Cool build. Do the batteries build heat when on?
10 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

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For the briefest of moments before Daren's ebike build was complete, I relished watching him struggle to keep up with me! Sadly, those days are over. Great build Daren. You are a multi talented guy! You ever though about getting one of those helmet thingies to protect your bean?? In camo of course smile
11 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

Rocko1
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Topic: E-Bike Build
dsefcik wrote:
Weight - Somewhere around 60-70lbs probably
Top Speed - Flat, no wind, wearing my 8lb hiking boots, in a tuck and using the 4.5" slick tires inflated to 30psi.....close to 30mph
Range - Off Road 25-30 miles, on road about 35-40 miles

I run the off road tires tubeless and 7 psi in the back and 5 psi in the front. The slicks I run with tubes and about 25psi front and 30 rear.

Motor kit is a BBSHD from Luna Cycle

Battery pack is a 52volt and about 15 amp made from laptop batteries I harvested from computers at work that were headed for the recycle farm.

If you look thru the pictures you can see 4.5" slicks for the road and the 4" knobbies for off road.

The racks I bought on Amazon and made custom mounts for them

The custom triangle bag is made from 500D Cordura in Pencott Badlands camo (need to make the saddle bags still)

I have around 200 miles on the motor build version.

What else..?

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Wow. That is incredible for the weight. Stellar job.
11 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Rocko1
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Topic: Cleveland NF
rockhopper wrote:
Nice trip Rocko. The wildlife was really enjoying that seasonal creek heading down to the desert floor.


I am shocked at how far it is making it, especially with the weather we have had.
11 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

rockhopper
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Pretty impressive Daren. Loaded for Bear. I still have my old school Trek 18 speed Mountian bike. I'm not worthy.
11 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

rockhopper
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice trip Rocko. The wildlife was really enjoying that seasonal creek heading down to the desert floor.
11 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

dsefcik
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Topic: E-Bike Build
Weight - Somewhere around 60-70lbs probably
Top Speed - Flat, no wind, wearing my 8lb hiking boots, in a tuck and using the 4.5" slick tires inflated to 30psi.....close to 30mph
Range - Off Road 25-30 miles, on road about 35-40 miles

I run the off road tires tubeless and 7 psi in the back and 5 psi in the front. The slicks I run with tubes and about 25psi front and 30 rear.

Motor kit is a BBSHD from Luna Cycle

Battery pack is a 52volt and about 15 amp made from laptop batteries I harvested from computers at work that were headed for the recycle farm.

If you look thru the pictures you can see 4.5" slicks for the road and the 4" knobbies for off road.

The racks I bought on Amazon and made custom mounts for them

The custom triangle bag is made from 500D Cordura in Pencott Badlands camo (need to make the saddle bags still)

I have around 200 miles on the motor build version.

What else..?

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11 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

Rocko1
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Now that is impressive Daren! Can you give the specs? Weight, top speed, range?
11 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Tommy that fuzzy plant is a mystery to me!
11 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

ziphius
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Quite the engineering feat Daren, I bow to your skills. My GF has a fancy Trek ebike that she loves for commuting, back in the days when we used to commute.
11 days ago
Topic:
E-Bike Build

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Topic: E-Bike Build
Moved this over to a new thread.

Been telling myself I am gonna write up a post on my ebike but who knows when that will happen.
Here is a link to the photos over the last year of building it up from brand new out of the box....all inspired by tommy750 and his ebike.

https://www.darensefcik.com/Photography/Bicycles/E-Bike-Build/


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11 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Moved the ebike build to a new thread http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1533-ebike-build.aspx?MessageID=10771#post10771



@Tommy750, I like that pic of the bikes..nice!

Yeah, sorry I did hijack it, too lazy to start my own thread...Thread Hijack!

Been telling myself I am gonna write up a post on my ebike but who knows when that will happen.
Here is a link to the photos over the last year of building it up from brand new out of the box....all inspired by tommy750 and his ebike.

https://www.darensefcik.com/Photography/Bicycles/E-Bike-Build/

Thread Hijack!
Thread Hijack!

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edited by dsefcik on 5/13/2020
12 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Goodness, great pictures!! Love the views, those colors are amazing. The balancing rock is really cool. And yes, great bike / trail shots!

I haven't been getting out. My usual go-to spots are within the park boundaries or areas that are closed, and I guess it's all just been a bit disorienting so I've been staying local. I really appreciate the reminders that there are options, even with all the closures. Thanks for sharing a bit of "normal". smile
13 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

tekewin
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Great! The view from Garnet is one of my favorites in the park. Can't wait until the whole park is officially re-opened.
13 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Rocko1 wrote:
Did you ever try a bug net? I used my buff to cover my mouth but they still swarm near my eyes-even with having my shirt/pants/hat treated with permethrin.


I bought one a couple years ago for backpacking in the Sierras. That's a good idea to use it for biking in buggy areas. The helmet would probably keep it the perfect distance away from the face.
edited by Brian on 5/12/2020
13 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Brian wrote:
I used to do a lot of mountain biking and I had always heard that Noble Canyon was one of the best spots. When I rode it, I had to keep the speed up to outrun the gnats, but every time I had to slow down for a technical section they would be swarming around my head and I had to be careful not to inhale them. I never went back.



Did you ever try a bug net? I used my buff to cover my mouth but they still swarm near my eyes-even with having my shirt/pants/hat treated with permethrin.
13 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
tommy750 wrote:
Nice pics Rocko1. Glad to see water down in Storm. Last time I was in that area was early 2019 and that drainage was bone dry. You ever looked around Oasis Spring? Assuming that's where most of that water is originating from. Now to continue Daren's hijack of your post, here's another ebike pic up in McCain. Gunna have to step up my game to get that fully accessorized look Daren's bike has smile

IMG_3881 by tomteske, on Flickr

Ziphius, you know what this cute fuzzy plant is?? Can't say I've ever noticed it before.

IMG_3895 by tomteske, on Flickr

I have always wanted to go check out the building at Oasis Spring-heck I am up in that area enough I always forget somehow. Water was flowing really nice in Indian Creek also.

Need more info on those bikes. Would love to get into that.
13 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice pics Rocko1. Glad to see water down in Storm. Last time I was in that area was early 2019 and that drainage was bone dry. You ever looked around Oasis Spring? Assuming that's where most of that water is originating from. Now to continue Daren's hijack of your post, here's another ebike pic up in McCain. Gunna have to step up my game to get that fully accessorized look Daren's bike has smile

IMG_3881 by tomteske, on Flickr

Ziphius, you know what this cute fuzzy plant is?? Can't say I've ever noticed it before.

IMG_3895 by tomteske, on Flickr
13 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

ziphius
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice looking photos / trip Rocko1 and Daren!
13 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

ziphius
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice looking photos / trip Rocko1 and Daren!
13 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Brian
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Topic: Cleveland NF
I used to do a lot of mountain biking and I had always heard that Noble Canyon was one of the best spots. When I rode it, I had to keep the speed up to outrun the gnats, but every time I had to slow down for a technical section they would be swarming around my head and I had to be careful not to inhale them. I never went back.
14 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

Britain
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Topic: Cleveland NF
Nice shots from the top. Dig the battle bike.
14 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
dsefcik wrote:
Very nice...Tom and I went out to McCain Valley for a bike ride, yes...bugs are in FULL force.






Sweet bike! Is that yours?
14 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Very nice...Tom and I went out to McCain Valley for a bike ride, yes...bugs are in FULL force.




14 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Thanks Great pictures
14 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Scooter wrote:
Very nice. Is the forest open?

Trails are. Improved sites with bathrooms still closed.
14 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Very nice. Is the forest open?
14 days ago
Topic:
Cleveland NF

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Topic: Cleveland NF
Did a quick hike in the Cleveland NF this weekend. 9 miles, early start to beat the heat. Went up Garnet Peak then explored the Noble Canyon area. Bugs and gnats are out in full force.


From the top of Garnet Peak you can see water from Storm Canyon still flowing pretty far into Vallecito Valley.




Looking towards Granite.


Lots for flowers blooming.


18 days ago
Topic:
Photography

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Topic: Photography
El Centro NAF
Blue Angels will not post the schedules I asked. They show up in El Centro the first week of January and leave after the airshow at NAF around the second week of March. They usually practice in the morning around 9 am and then in the afternoon at 1 pm. They fly for about 2 hrs.

Yes, the rest of the year is wildlife and hiking. You got some great captures!


Buford wrote:
Nice pictures of the Blue Angels. Is there a way to get the schedule when the they will be in El Centro? I hope they do a local flyover like the East Coast.

Only pictures I've taken in the last couple days are local wild life.
18 days ago
Topic:
Photography

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Nice pictures of the Blue Angels. Is there a way to get the schedule when the they will be in El Centro? I hope they do a local flyover like the East Coast.

Only pictures I've taken in the last couple days are local wild life.
19 days ago
Topic:
Photography

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Britain wrote:
Well, its in the desert (El Centro). Blue Angel # 7 coming in with a blown tire. #7 carries VIP backseaters. There was one in this one.

Thumbs Up
19 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Britain
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Well, its in the desert (El Centro). Blue Angel # 7 coming in with a blown tire. #7 carries VIP backseaters. There was one in this one.

19 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Britain
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Topic: Photography
Got to like the lens. Have friends that also have it. Nice Hums shots!

Buford wrote:
All these were with the Sigma 150-600C and MC-11 adapter.

I wish we had a feeder or fountain but don't have space for one in the yard. All these are from walking around the neighborhood. Despite being in the middle of the city there are tons of hummingbirds everywhere.

I don't know what species are in the pictures. I think we have Anna's, Rufous, Costa's and Allen's in San Diego. I'll have to check my bird books. I am not much of a birder. I just like taking pictures of things that look cool.

Here are the frames immediately before and after the uncropped one, but cropped slightly:




Had some fun with macros too but this might have been a previous weekend.


I saw them flash the colors under their beak many times but couldn't get any great pictures of the color in sunlight.

Hopefully everyone can return to the desert soon.
27 days ago
Topic:
Photography

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All these were with the Sigma 150-600C and MC-11 adapter.

I wish we had a feeder or fountain but don't have space for one in the yard. All these are from walking around the neighborhood. Despite being in the middle of the city there are tons of hummingbirds everywhere.

I don't know what species are in the pictures. I think we have Anna's, Rufous, Costa's and Allen's in San Diego. I'll have to check my bird books. I am not much of a birder. I just like taking pictures of things that look cool.

Here are the frames immediately before and after the uncropped one, but cropped slightly:




Had some fun with macros too but this might have been a previous weekend.


I saw them flash the colors under their beak many times but couldn't get any great pictures of the color in sunlight.

Hopefully everyone can return to the desert soon.
27 days ago
Topic:
Photography

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We have an inexpensive fountain in our backyard we must have a dozen hummingbirds, finches, doves and oriels. It is great to sit and watch them come in for water and baths.
27 days ago
Topic:
Photography

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Stunning hummingbirds! Whenever I run into them, their wings sound like large bugs.
27 days ago
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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rockhopper wrote:
Nice clear desert views. Your expedition was perfectly timed. Thanks for sharing.



Just lucky on timing. smile
28 days ago
Topic:
Photography

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Buford wrote:


My first real camera is now a year old.

I love this guy, do you know what kind it is?
I can't remember how old my "first real camera" is but I do remember I paid waaay too much for it....ain't even worth selling now.
Great pictures, thanks for posting...Thumbs Up
28 days ago
Topic:
Photography

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Still haven't been out to the desert.

These guys are all in my area, just as easily could be in the desert. At least two species I think.











Completely uncropped. In the full resolution version you can almost count the pollen grains on his beak. Not sharp enough though, too slow a shutter speed since I was just taking images of one in the shade:


My first real camera is now a year old.
29 days ago
Topic:
Solstice Cave and Goat Canyon

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rockhopper wrote:
deborah wrote:
Nice trip report and pictures! I'm catching up on all the activity, been oddly busy with work this past month or so. These posts are a great reminder that the desert will still be there. smile



It is comforting to know that desert will still be there. Ready for another expedition.


Yep, I suspect it will be October before I check to make sure the desert is still there. I usually do a few trips in May after a cold front goes through, but I don't think I'll bother this year. I hiked to the playa above Box Canyon on the day the state ended up issuing the stay at home order and when I came back out the next day it was a different world. It was a fitting end of the season for me.
29 days ago
Topic:
Solstice Cave and Goat Canyon

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deborah wrote:
Nice trip report and pictures! I'm catching up on all the activity, been oddly busy with work this past month or so. These posts are a great reminder that the desert will still be there. smile



It is comforting to know that desert will still be there. Ready for another expedition.
29 days ago
Topic:
Toloache

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Topic: Toloache
The indigenous peoples used about every plant in their habitat for various uses. Teas made from herbs, roots, bark etc. I imagine the "Medicine Man" was the most respected and protected member of the tribe or clan.
29 days ago
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

rockhopper
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Nice clear desert views. Your expedition was perfectly timed. Thanks for sharing.
4/25/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

deborah
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Great pictures and info! Thanks for sharing!
4/25/2020
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

deborah
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Nice pictures and trip report! Laughing about the "type 2 fun". smile
4/25/2020
Topic:
Solstice Cave and Goat Canyon

deborah
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Nice trip report and pictures! I'm catching up on all the activity, been oddly busy with work this past month or so. These posts are a great reminder that the desert will still be there. smile
4/23/2020
Topic:
Show Us Your Mask!

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Topic: Show Us Your Mask!
Didnt make one but mines a grey camo
4/23/2020
Topic:
Toloache

Rocko1
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Topic: Toloache
I was reading a few 'trip' reports regarding this plant. It does not sound like a fun time. Can last for days, user can't tell real people from hallucinations, high fever, etc. This is one heavy deliriant.
4/23/2020
Topic:
Photography

tekewin
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Topic: Photography
Bug's Life edition. Cool. Nice looking spider.
4/23/2020
Topic:
Toloache

tekewin
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Topic: Toloache
I've seen dozens of those plants on the Coal Canyon trail off the 91 at Green River. I knew they were poisonous, but not that they were used for so many pharmaceuticals. Cool plants.
4/23/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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Topic: Domeland/Wind Caves
Excellent! Love the flowers. I hope to visit some day.
4/22/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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tommy750 wrote:
Rocko1, here's a petroglyph you walked right by on the way to the wind caves. Looks like another petroglyph down in Pinto Canyon a little ways to the south. The ruler is being held by Jeff Sagun, BLM archaeologist, who called it a tortoise. Not aware of any water source in the Coyotes except maybe a few tinajas. Definitely a lot of slots, mining stuff, fossils and amazing scenery out there.
Tortoise Petroglyphs (2018_09_25 07_05_23 UTC) by tomteske, on Flickr



Dang, that is really cool. I really need to spend more time out there
edited by Rocko1 on 4/22/2020
4/21/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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Topic: Domeland/Wind Caves
Rocko1, here's a petroglyph you walked right by on the way to the wind caves. Looks like another petroglyph down in Pinto Canyon a little ways to the south. The ruler is being held by Jeff Sagun, BLM archaeologist, who called it a tortoise. Not aware of any water source in the Coyotes except maybe a few tinajas. Definitely a lot of slots, mining stuff, fossils and amazing scenery out there.

Tortoise Petroglyphs (2018_09_25 07_05_23 UTC) by tomteske, on Flickr
4/21/2020
Topic:
Toloache

tommy750
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dsefcik wrote:
Well, isn't tommy750 full of surprise botanical medicine information!...where did you say I could find those ICU carts, by the wind caves..?? hitit

I am getting kinda itchy to get out....maybe this weekend, especially now that gas prices are down, it will only cost me $30 in gas instead of $50

Thanks for the flower update.

Daren, you being a little glass vial aficionado AND international traveler AND new botanical chemical guy, I present the ATROPINE TRIFECTA! This little glass vial was found in an abandoned medical clinic crash cart deep in the jungles of Chiapas, Mexico. With an expiration date of 11/1991 (about 7 years after I found it), it still might pack as much punch as an ounce of datura honey smile

Atropine by tomteske, on Flickr

And speaking of bees, actually found a hive under a boulder in the middle of a drainage not too far from said datura plant. Have not found a living hive in years around here so this was kind of nice to see even thought the bee traffic was light. You'll need to click on the image twice to see the clip.

IMG_3772 by tomteske, on Flickr
4/21/2020
Topic:
Toloache

ziphius
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Honey bees definitely visit Datura flowers. I wonder what 100% pure 'Datura honey' would be like. smile

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
I have a few Datura plants in the garden, grown from seed. A great plant that attracts weird pollinators and Sphinx moth caterpillars. The plant itself sort of smells like peanut butter and the flowers are spectacular.

That's interesting. Do you see honey bees polinating the flowers? Read somewhere honey produced near datura plants can be problematic but they mentioned honey wasps whatever those are.
4/21/2020
Topic:
Toloache

dsefcik
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Well, isn't tommy750 full of surprise botanical medicine information!...where did you say I could find those ICU carts, by the wind caves..?? hitit

I am getting kinda itchy to get out....maybe this weekend, especially now that gas prices are down, it will only cost me $30 in gas instead of $50

Thanks for the flower update.
4/21/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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Nice...I really like the fossil and flower pics. I have never been to those caves...been close many times but never actually gone to them...Thumbs Up
4/21/2020
Topic:
Toloache

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Topic: Toloache
ziphius wrote:
I have a few Datura plants in the garden, grown from seed. A great plant that attracts weird pollinators and Sphinx moth caterpillars. The plant itself sort of smells like peanut butter and the flowers are spectacular.

That's interesting. Do you see honey bees polinating the flowers? Read somewhere honey produced near datura plants can be problematic but they mentioned honey wasps whatever those are.
4/21/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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ziphius wrote:
Nice trip report, envious.



Thanks. It was more crowded-and by that we passed 4 groups on the way back-saw none first half-for my liking-but beggars can't be choosers. You could get off the trail though and really get away easily. So many little/big side canyons, whatever you like.
4/21/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

ziphius
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Nice trip report, envious.
4/21/2020
Topic:
Toloache

ziphius
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I have a few Datura plants in the garden, grown from seed. A great plant that attracts weird pollinators and Sphinx moth caterpillars. The plant itself sort of smells like peanut butter and the flowers are spectacular.
4/21/2020
Topic:
Toloache

Rocko1
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Very nice! I just read about this in Desert Solitaire-Edward Abbey's book. Very interesting.
4/21/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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tommy750 wrote:
Nice TR Rocko1. Lots of neat places to explore out there.

There really is. Great place to break into cowboy camping. I counted about 20 caves suitable for 1 person and many for 2 people.

It is dry out here. I don't think there is any chance of finding a spring in this area.
4/20/2020
Topic:
Toloache

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Hiked a ways up Carrizo Canyon with my wife yesterday after parking on S2. On the way back NOT driving 30 mph down the dirt road, we noticed what I'm pretty sure is a nice Datura Inoxia AKA Toloache plant growing a few feet from the road. Renown for its mind altering effects, it contains a mix of chemicals still widely used by modern medicine including scopolamine (TransdernScop patches for sea sickness), atropine to speed up a slowing heart rate (found in every ICU crash cart in the world) and hyoscamine (old treatment for irritable Bowel Syndrome and stomach cramps). The concentration of these chemicals can vary greatly between plants due to soil and other growing conditions so experimenting with this plant is perilous. The above chemicals are all members of the anticholinergic drug class and a classic side effect is confusion and hallucinations. Before the hike I had just stumbled onto an old article on indigenous use of datura and its curious occurrence near archaeological sites located here: https://4fe6dae8-b225-4a05-a4bd-cedfd2c07440.filesusr.com/ugd/488b16_dfca29adc70643eba7be69b8d09af202.pdf Maybe a nice self isolation read. Enjoy. Tom

Datura Inoxia by tomteske, on Flickr

Apparently everything is toxic especially the flowers and seeds.

Datura Inoxia Flower by tomteske, on Flickr

Lots of color variation found in the flowers.

Datura Inoxia Flowers2 by tomteske, on Flickr

The seed pod.

Datura Inoxia Fruit by tomteske, on Flickr
4/20/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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Nice TR Rocko1. Lots of neat places to explore out there.
4/20/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

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Topic: Park Closed?
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Yesterday it was closed when we passed heading north but was open with the barricade in place stopping traffic when we returned later in the afternoon.


Never been stopped at that checkpoint even when it was manned. I assume they are now since the 8 fwy checkpoint is closed.

Would estimate I've had to stop maybe ten times in the 15 or so years the checkpoint has been open. Used to hike Wind Caves at night a lot after work for exercise and would routinely get stopped when I would turn back onto S2. Did get chased down once when I missed the Wind Caves turnoff and made an obvious U turn in front of the checkpoint in my old white cargo van. Nothing suspicious there, right? The In-Ko-Pah checkpoint right before the I-8 grade has been closed for years. Used to be 30+ minute waits after BP Agent Robert Rosas was cut down in the line of duty in 2009. Nice guy. You've probably seen his name on signs along the freeway. My wife and I worked with his spouse for years.
4/20/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

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tommy750 wrote:
Yesterday it was closed when we passed heading north but was open with the barricade in place stopping traffic when we returned later in the afternoon.


Never been stopped at that checkpoint even when it was manned. I assume they are now since the 8 fwy checkpoint is closed.
4/20/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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Brian wrote:
Nice pics. My first trip to Domelands was before they had the sign at the turnoff. I mistakenly took a road that was maybe a quarter mile S of the correct one and promptly got stuck in the sand. That was about the time I started to seriously consider that I needed a car with AWD if I was going to continue doing the desert thing.



That stinks. Tacoma truck is on my wishlist. The road in is in very good shape. Any 2wd sedan could make it.
4/20/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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Nice pics. My first trip to Domelands was before they had the sign at the turnoff. I mistakenly took a road that was maybe a quarter mile S of the correct one and promptly got stuck in the sand. That was about the time I started to seriously consider that I needed a car with AWD if I was going to continue doing the desert thing.
4/20/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

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Yesterday it was closed when we passed heading north but was open with the barricade in place stopping traffic when we returned later in the afternoon.
4/20/2020
Topic:
Domeland/Wind Caves

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Did a short hike to the wind caves this weekend. Were a few campers out in this area when we arrived at 7am. Hiked up to peak 1662 via the wind cave trail that follows the wash for a ways. Flowers are starting to bloom. Another week or so out to be great.

On the way up towards 1662




Great views from here


Register on 1662. About a signature every few weeks.


Lot of scallop fossils. Saw some broken silver dollars and snails as well. Walrus and Camelid fossils were found here according to the trailhead information.


Interesting caves all over. Could spend a lot of time around here.


The main dome had many caves and the large one could house a few people easily. Plenty of smaller caves you could cowboy camp in easily.




View to the west


Very healthy cacti


Wife and I drank some coffee near the peak and decided to save the loop-through the slot canyons- for another outing, backpacking maybe. I have never been to this area and was impressed.

Trash retrieved-
Balloon: 0
Slightly used extinguisher: 1
Beverage: 1

edited by Rocko1 on 4/20/2020
4/20/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

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dsefcik wrote:
Were the BP checkpoints staffed and stopping cars?

I was there Saturday checking out Domelands. I didn't see any BP at the station on S2.
4/20/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

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Were the BP checkpoints staffed and stopping cars?
4/19/2020
Topic:
Park Closed?

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Today, driving out to Carrizo Canyon for a day hike, every access road to the park was blocked including the numerous viewpoints overlooking Canyon Sin Nombre. The S2 BP checkpoint had a sign flashing State Park closed. Last weekend the Jojoba Wash turnout was full of cars but not today.

Closed by tomteske, on Flickr
4/19/2020
Topic:
Photography

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Great photos Buford. Thanks for posting. It is sad we are missing the best part of the year in the desert. Was able to get a trip in to Blue Spring right as the park was closing.
4/19/2020
Topic:
Photography

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Haven't been out to ABDSP since February with the situation recently. This will be my longest absence from the park in years.

I wonder how busy this guy has been:



Not my license, but relevant and seen this week:



I picked up a macro lens. Unfortunately I have only been able to use it locally instead of on desert flowers and insects. Hopefully no one is bored by non desert photos.


Flower:


Flower with bee:


No idea what these things are:


Snail crossing:


A cooperative spider posing:
4/19/2020
Topic:
Show Us Your Mask!

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Nice. I like both, but don't know if I would recognize you without camo.
4/19/2020
Topic:
Show Us Your Mask!

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surfponto wrote:
Those are really nice Daren.
Didn't realize you knew how to sew so well
Thanks..I am not so much a good sewer as much as I like to peddle the treadle..it's fun..Wiggle
4/19/2020
Topic:
Show Us Your Mask!

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tommy750 wrote:
So of all the fabric out there in the world, you went with the dancing hula girl print? Nice!
Go with what you got....I was thinking it would be a nice Trader Joes mask and it was, I got several compliments from TJ employees while shopping..!
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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I assume the small solar panel and array is BP, but I don't know for certain. I do know I stumbled on a similar setup somewhere in the vicinity of the Stage BM.
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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Tommy 750,

Thanks! Will take a look.
4/17/2020
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Show Us Your Mask!

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So of all the fabric out there in the world, you went with the dancing hula girl print? Nice!
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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Nice TR Tekewin. My favorite place to head out to in the warmer summer months. Nice snake pic.

The Domelands are on the North side of the Coyote Mts. The most common route out there is the Wind Caves trail. You can also go up Fossil Canyon and just keep going over the top. Another route to the north side is taking the first mile of the Wind Caves trail and when you drop into the main drainage, turn left down stream and keep going. Nice scramble down a dry falls and lots of interesting views to follow.
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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Rocko1,

Can you point me toward Domelands? Not sure where that is.
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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tekewin wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
I think parts of CNF are open as well as wilderness areas of BLM, all within reach of ABDSP areas.



Thanks, I'll do some more research. Caltopo has nice overlays for BLM. I probably shouldn't complain about closed parks. First world problem.

Domelands looks interesting. Decent amount to explore in that area.
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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dsefcik wrote:
I think parts of CNF are open as well as wilderness areas of BLM, all within reach of ABDSP areas.



Thanks, I'll do some more research. Caltopo has nice overlays for BLM. I probably shouldn't complain about closed parks. First world problem.
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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dsefcik wrote:
I love that area, Tom and I have been at the base of Pepperwood like a million times but never scrambled up. You should have looked closer at that radio thing to see what it was, most likely BP but not sure what for but would not doubt crossers at all. We have run into folks on the path out there at least 3 times now. That rutted section only lasts a few hundred feet, usually you can straddle it and get past if you have some ground clearance.



It is a cool area. I had only started around there once before heading to Al Holden Peak. I have plenty of clearance (4Runner) but didn't know the road got better so backed down.
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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tekewin wrote:
I'm thinking about looking around Mojave until AB reopens. Or going further east on I-8. I can do those trips with one stop for self serve gas and no interactions.
I think parts of CNF are open as well as wilderness areas of BLM, all within reach of ABDSP areas.
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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I love that area, Tom and I have been at the base of Pepperwood like a million times but never scrambled up. You should have looked closer at that radio thing to see what it was, most likely BP but not sure what for but would not doubt crossers at all. We have run into folks on the path out there at least 3 times now. That rutted section only lasts a few hundred feet, usually you can straddle it and get past if you have some ground clearance.
4/17/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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Brian wrote:
Great trip report. I've done hikes leaving from Cottonwood campground, but have never driven the road beyond there. Always meant to some day. It's on my very long list of places I want to explore some day.



There's maybe a mile of road after Cottonwood. I chickened out when facing the deep ruts, probably could have driven them but was happy to hike a little extra. I'm thinking about looking around Mojave until AB reopens. Or going further east on I-8. I can do those trips with one stop for self serve gas and no interactions.
4/16/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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Great trip report. I've done hikes leaving from Cottonwood campground, but have never driven the road beyond there. Always meant to some day. It's on my very long list of places I want to explore some day.
4/16/2020
Topic:
Pepperwood and Bow Willow

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Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice! Isn't the route into Canebreak from there a heavily traveled immigrant route? Maybe the radio is used by them?



I'd probably guess border patrol over immigrants based on resources, but who knows. I didn't take the rocks off to open it or get serial numbers. Should have.




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