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13 hours ago
Topic:
McCain and Wind Turbines

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Well, heres a FAA doc on lighting requirements.

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/150_5345_43g.pdf
14 hours ago
Topic:
McCain and Wind Turbines

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Topic: McCain and Wind Turbines
Technically I think the requirement is 32.5 candela once the obstruction reaches 200 feet but many of the lighting systems I researched had specs of 2,000 candela and some FAA docs had charts showing as much as 20,000 candela for some situations. I am no expert at all, just did some searching and learned a few new things.
14 hours ago
Topic:
McCain and Wind Turbines

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I would guess the lighting would be the same for Power poles and such. Never thought about the lighting requirements per FAA. Good info.
14 hours ago
Topic:
McCain and Wind Turbines

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About a month ago they left some of their junk at Buckman Springs.
14 hours ago
Topic:
McCain and Wind Turbines

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Topic: McCain and Wind Turbines
tommy750 wrote:
Should be enjoyable relaxing at Cottonwood with the nearby 2,000 lumen red LEDs flashing every few seconds and the whoosh whoosh providing audio.


I thought to myself, how does tommy750 know they are 2,000 lumens?? Well, it turns out the FAA measures aviation obstruction lights in candela, not lumen. Candela is more important as that defines (loosely) how far the light can be seen from whereas lumen defines how much can be seen with the light.

A laser pointer for example vs a big fat flashlight.

Minimal research suggests the FFA requirements are 2,000 candelas, visibility from about 1.2 miles away at night. There is more math and science behind the wind turbine obstructing lighting systems so do some research if that interests you.


Tom and I were there a month or so ago and I got stuck behind a caravan of turbine blade delivery trucks. Kinda sucked since I was on the new and improved McCain Valley dirt road freeway they created, it's practically paved all the way to Cottonwood.




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21 hours ago
Topic:
McCain and Wind Turbines

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tommy750 wrote:
Those things go up like weeds. Should be enjoyable relaxing at Cottonwood with the nearby 2,000 lumen red LEDs flashing every few seconds and the whoosh whoosh providing audio.



The R&R tracks at night when cooling down pop and crackle. But the Turbines also have the same noise. But there's was another noise I heard it sounded like the transformers were unloading there was a "Thumping" like sound periodically.
edited by Britain on 10/18/2017
1 days ago
Topic:
McCain and Wind Turbines

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Those things go up like weeds. Should be enjoyable relaxing at Cottonwood with the nearby 2,000 lumen red LEDs flashing every few seconds and the whoosh whoosh providing audio.
3 days ago
Topic:
McCain and Wind Turbines

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10.13.2017 Most of the poles are up, many are already assembled. A quick shot from the freeway. I would guess they will all be up in a month.
4 days ago
Topic:
Desert Night life

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Topic: Desert Night life
dsefcik wrote:
Britain wrote:
I haven't seen a reasonable priced low F wide open for Canon. I'm looking but I also want a better telephoto and that's 2K .


The Rokinon for Canon $399

Otherwise, yeah...Canon = $$$


Let me look into this. Mine is not a full frame. Price is right. Thanks
4 days ago
Topic:
Desert Night life

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Britain wrote:
I haven't seen a reasonable priced low F wide open for Canon. I'm looking but I also want a better telephoto and that's 2K .


The Rokinon for Canon $399

Otherwise, yeah...Canon = $$$
4 days ago
Topic:
Desert Night life

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Topic: Desert Night life
dsefcik wrote:
Nice photos...I have not done any night shots for awhile. I have several Rokinon manual lenses, they are affordable and can get you into the faster, wider lens space. On my Fuji camera I have a 12mm F/2.8 which runs about $400.


Thats a good price for was low F and wide open. These were shot @ F/3.5 my wide open 10mm is at F/4.5 and the pictures are much darker and when applying more ISO much grainier. I haven't seen a reasonable priced low F wide open for Canon. I'm looking but I also want a better telephoto and that's 2K .

But the night temps were mid 70"s and clear out. Was a good night.
4 days ago
Topic:
Desert Night life

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Nice photos...I have not done any night shots for awhile. I have several Rokinon manual lenses, they are affordable and can get you into the faster, wider lens space. On my Fuji camera I have a 12mm F/2.8 which runs about $400.
5 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
Was in one of the big storm channels in Anaheim, there are thousands of homeless people. Just miles of them. I feel sorry for them. There are students living there. They just cannot afford to live in this area and this is the only option for them. It's truly sad this is happening. There's a line of what they can afford and moving to where they can afford. Most of them who I talked to are not of the crazy type.
5 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
dsefcik wrote:
cercidium wrote:
You need to plant some more down in the canyon...the new home of the homeless....I just cleared out more crap from them this morning.



i've been working with sdpd and canyonlands to clear that out—54th and uni is complete, the creekbed is next. that little canyon is best kept with natives... of course my hillside is fair game for all manner of sonoran desert friends!
6 days ago
Topic:
Desert Night life

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Topic: Desert Night life
To have a faster wide open lens...
War of the worlds
7 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
cercidium wrote:
nothing quite like an acacia to slow you down. i've got a beautiful one on my hillside overlooking chollas creek... if anybody ever entered our fence it'd be the first friend to greet them!

You need to plant some more down in the canyon...the new home of the homeless....I just cleared out more crap from them this morning.
7 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
nothing quite like an acacia to slow you down. i've got a beautiful one on my hillside overlooking chollas creek... if anybody ever entered our fence it'd be the first friend to greet them!
7 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
Got me a little cholla today. Those little ones that have broken off the ball. Had to take my pants off. Some of the spikes went through. But Love me some early morning hiking.
7 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
Also Cat's claw root is used as a tea for wound healing ( The cat's claw damage! ) and for stomach ulcers, arthritis and inflammation.
7 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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The worst part is the claws break off in your skin and then you gotta dig them out.
7 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
I notice that stuff right away now. I have many a torn shirt from that stuff. Do not recommend hiking dry creek beds in the desert . I try to stay up higher on the slopes or ridge lines. That's were all of the Native Americans trail are any way. The old boy's knew about cat's claw for sure.
8 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
Haha. Horrible stuff. Extracts a blood toll when you bushwhack through it.

According to the scientists it is good for sheep, it flowers and holds leaves later than most plants giving them food in the dry months.
edited by Buford on 10/10/2017
9 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
dsefcik wrote:
Cat's Claw....


Thanks makes sense!
9 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Cat's Claw....
9 days ago
Topic:
Thorny desert weed

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Topic: Thorny desert weed
What is this stuff. Has lots of very small thorns. Rips your skin up. Stuff always seems to end up in groves, right in your path. Caused me today a lot of deterring. And those big flys, they follow you for miles. Wish I would have had a flamethrower!
11 days ago
Topic:
Goat Benchmark

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Topic: Goat Benchmark
rocko1: 9.4 miles round trip, 2600' gain, took me 6 hours 10 minutes. I love this area, but it always seems more difficult than I expect.

ziphius: You are probably right about the scat. I saw several adult deer in the area and some deer bones. Please post your photos if you head out that way.
12 days ago
Topic:
Weather Balloon

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Topic: Weather Balloon
Probably like a bird going in. Still, wouldn't want to be on any aircraft digesting anything through the engines. But for me a cool find.!
12 days ago
Topic:
Weather Balloon

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Britain wrote:
Wonder what happens when one of these get sucked into a jet engine? I'll be mailing it back Saturday.

"it can be ingested by a jet engine without causing significant engine damage"


http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap01/balloon.html
12 days ago
Topic:
Weather Balloon

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Topic: Weather Balloon
Wonder what happens when one of these get sucked into a jet engine? I'll be mailing it back Saturday.
12 days ago
Topic:
Weather Balloon

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Nice find, I'm still hoping to find one. I encourage you to mail it back, the data are quite useful for improving the National Weather Service models.
12 days ago
Topic:
Weather Balloon

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My understanding is that two of those go up every day from Kearny Mesa, if they land in the desert they had a short life. I have dropped a couple off at the Rancho Bernardo office.
12 days ago
Topic:
Weather Balloon

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Topic: Weather Balloon
First hike of the season on Red Hill. Ended going up a canyon to stay in shade on the eastern side of the canyon. Bad choice upper end of the canyon ruined getting on top of Red Hill. But once I did get out of the canyon found the balloon.



And a self_adressed bag to send their junk back to them!
13 days ago
Topic:
Photo hosting recommendations

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Here's a link to a firefox and a google chrome plug-in so you can see all of the "broken" photobucket images....

Firefox... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/photobucket-fixer/?src=cb-dl-recentlyadded

Google Chrome.... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embedded-imag/ogipgokcopooepeipngiikdkpmcpkaon

Brings the pictures back. At least for now.
15 days ago
Topic:
Goat Benchmark

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Topic: Goat Benchmark
Not sure how I missed this original post.... thanks for sharing the backcountry adventure. That's an area I plan on spending time in. The scats you found are likely from deer. Deer scat looks about the same as bighorn scat and the area you were in is generally a bit west and higher than preferred bighorn habitat.
15 days ago
Topic:
Goat Benchmark

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Nice trip. Care to share any stats? Miles hiked, etc?
15 days ago
Topic:
Most western+highest elevation backpacking spot?

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ziphius wrote:
Not sure if your desire for 'highest' spots are due to cooler temperatures, if so, the Culp Valley area is 'west' and relatively high (3000 - 4000 ft). Then there are the San Ysidro mountains, hellish terrain, but high and just west of Borrego Springs.



I like the fauna/flora of the higher altitudes near the desert as well as lower temps. Near Whale Peak for example. Remoteness also is important.
21 days ago
Topic:
Most western+highest elevation backpacking spot?

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Not sure if your desire for 'highest' spots are due to cooler temperatures, if so, the Culp Valley area is 'west' and relatively high (3000 - 4000 ft). Then there are the San Ysidro mountains, hellish terrain, but high and just west of Borrego Springs.
22 days ago
Topic:
Most western+highest elevation backpacking spot?

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ziphius wrote:
The Combs Peak / Bucksnort Mountain area along the Pacific Crest Trail north of Hot Springs Mtn. Nice, wild country back there.



I will check this out. Thanks.
22 days ago
Topic:
Most western+highest elevation backpacking spot?

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The Combs Peak / Bucksnort Mountain area along the Pacific Crest Trail north of Hot Springs Mtn. Nice, wild country back there.
23 days ago
Topic:
Most western+highest elevation backpacking spot?

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I am looking for the highest and most westerly spot within the park boundary that I could do a 2 day backpacking trip. Anyone have any ideas?
24 days ago
Topic:
New photo host test

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Topic: New photo host test
ziphius wrote:
Can't say I can really see anything that jumps out at me.



Check out the area at the red arrow. Looks very old and weathered medicine circle or roasting pit. I am going to head out and check it out this winter. btw this is one of a few of the same circles in the general area. Will reveal upon trip report. Also: I can finally post photos again! Cheers.
24 days ago
Topic:
New photo host test

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Can't say I can really see anything that jumps out at me.
25 days ago
Topic:
New photo host test

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Hello all, trying out my new photo hosting after the photo bucket debacle. This photo taken from G. Earth shows what looks like and old encampment near and old trail. Looks like two rings and a cross within. Natural or man made? What say ye?
edited by rockhopper on 9/23/2017
28 days ago
Topic:
2017 Sheep Count info

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sddarkman619 wrote:
Didn't Ranger Steve used to do this?

Yes

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1274-ranger-steve-dies-in-shooting-incident.aspx
29 days ago
Topic:
2017 Sheep Count info

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dsefcik wrote:
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Daren I signed up for this and got no notification. any idea why?
There were new folks coordinating the sheep count effort this year, it is possible some volunteers were not contacted, I am not sure. There is contact info for the new people at this link I would suggest contacting them to find out and make sure you are on the email list for the 2018 count.


Didn't Ranger Steve used to do this?
9/18/2017
Topic:
2017 Sheep Count info

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sddarkman619 wrote:
Daren I signed up for this and got no notification. any idea why?
There were new folks coordinating the sheep count effort this year, it is possible some volunteers were not contacted, I am not sure. There is contact info for the new people at this link I would suggest contacting them to find out and make sure you are on the email list for the 2018 count.
9/18/2017
Topic:
2017 Sheep Count info

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Daren I signed up for this and got no notification. any idea why?
9/18/2017
Topic:
BM's

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Topic: BM's
Fantastic map with great old time info. Thanks for sharing! I really like the "under construction" new State hwy.
9/15/2017
Topic:
North McCain Valley

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Saw the new GE images. Looks bad up close and from afar.
9/15/2017
Topic:
Railroad Police

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Topic: Railroad Police
This guy was pretty determined to do this. He wheeled from the east coast just to do the gorge.
9/15/2017
Topic:
Railroad Police

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Last year the tracks were like a highway at rush hour. really full of people out enjoying what they do. I was surprised when I saw this one on the bridge.
9/15/2017
Topic:
North McCain Valley

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Interesting they must have recently updated GE. I see this else where also.
9/15/2017
Topic:
North McCain Valley

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9/13/2017
Topic:
Railroad Police

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The large rail cars are still derailed near De Anza resort, any access would have to come from Dos Cabezas. There are dozens...yes dozens of cyclists and hikers almost every single weekend going out to the trestle, there is no way they will enforce anything right now without massive effort. In the last 2 years I have seen several groups of 10 or more motorcyclists on the tracks, tourist groups shuttled in from baja and the De Anza resort now putting up no parking signs all along the road...it is really bad now.
9/13/2017
Topic:
Railroad Police

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Topic: Railroad Police
You won't see them out there now..... at least not in their vehicles. (That vehicle setup is called a Hi-rail by the way.) With zero maintenance in the gorge there's zero chance of a vehicle getting through on the tracks. The Border Patrol would occasionally use a Hi-rail vehicle to patrol the gorge.

I don't know if the RR police still patrol out that way and there would be questions to their ability to enforce anything anyway.
9/11/2017
Topic:
North McCain Valley

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Progress....we all just need to go back to outhouses and horses.....
9/11/2017
Topic:
BM's

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Ditto, very cool...thanks for posting.
9/11/2017
Topic:
BM's

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That is a cool map! Thanks.
9/11/2017
Topic:
BM's

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I was wondering why a 1/4 section was marked. So I dug into some old maps. Didn't find the reason yet but found this cool map from 1910 of Western Imperial County. Its a bit large.

edited by Britain on 9/11/2017
9/10/2017
Topic:
BM's

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Thanks makes sense.. I'm sort of familiar been working with Plat maps. I'll gps it next time to see how it matches up. .
9/10/2017
Topic:
Railroad Police

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Topic: Railroad Police
Yes they do exist. Picture taken in 2014 on the hill south of Goat Canyon. They have drop down wheels that fit the track. I think the next tunnel is partially blocked from a slide.


edited by Britain on 9/10/2017
9/10/2017
Topic:
BM's

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Britain wrote:
Question, Why would it be 1/4 S on S33? Caltopo survey map.
edited by Britain on 9/10/2017
edited by Britain on 9/10/2017



I'm interpreting that marker to mean it's a quarter of the way along a boundary of Section 1. Assuming it's that particular S1 since you said it was near the downer turbine and that section also has a junction approximately 1/4 the way west of one of its corners.

Here's a nice blurb on Township and Range stuff: https://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/a_plss.html

I find the topics of surveying and geodetics fascinating on a superficial level but overwhelming past the basics.
9/10/2017
Topic:
BM's

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Question, Why would it be 1/4 S on S33? Caltopo survey map.
edited by Britain on 9/10/2017
edited by Britain on 9/10/2017
9/10/2017
Topic:
BM's

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Guessing this is probably the exact location.

Here by tomteske, on Flickr
9/10/2017
Topic:
BM's

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Though not a BM I found this near the Turbine that collapsed south of 8. I didn't have the gps so no exact location.


9/10/2017
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Topic: The Island - PAH BM
This was an awesome report and PAH is going on my list! Way to stick with the research.

Darren, if you wouldn't mind, could you email Terry Flood through Peakbagger with the correct coordinates of PAH so he can fix the entry? He was the one who added it to the Peakbagger and I'm sure he would be happy to fix it. That's probably faster than contacting Greg Slayden who runs Peakbagger. I (and a lot of people) rely on accurate data there and you could save someone else the wild goose chase.
9/10/2017
Topic:
Goat Benchmark

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Topic: Goat Benchmark
I wasn't sure whether to post this under trip reports or here, but this is pretty hard to reach. Goat Benchmark is #45 on the Sierra Club San Diego Peak List. It is a small bump near the head of Hellhole Canyon and nearly invisible until you are right on top it. There are many small boulder piles in the area and picking it out without a GPS would take superior map skills. I used a GPS to find it, leaving from S22 and circling around to it from the north past the Thimble. I made a direct attempt in May from Culp Valley but ran out of time before reaching it that way. In one of the side canyons, I found deer parts and what looked like a juvenile deer head, still with some wet brain matter inside. Insects hadn't had enough time to clean it up completely.



Starting at sunrise




Goat is a small bump out there somewhere


Descending


Passing by The Thimble




Juvenile deer I think

As far as other wildlife, I startled a couple of adult mule deer, but they were too fast for me to get any photos. Jackrabbits and birds were in abundance. Bighorn scat was everywhere, but I didn't see any. It seemed like a long time before I finally laid eyes on Goat. Once found, the summit was an easy boulder. A higher mound stands just behind it. The register went back to 2001 and was quite thin. I was the fifth party to visit Goat in 2017. It doesn't see much activity. Unless you are chasing the San Diego list, there is no reason to go there. If you end up there by accident, you are probably in serious trouble. I don't know why the US Army Corps of Engineers decided to mark it, but I really appreciated the remoteness. It had great views, being sort of Hellhole Central.





Benchmark and register cans




Looking down Hellhole Canyon

Here it is circled from my trip in May, the direct route is pretty tough


On my way back, I climbed Clyde and Hut BM, I had done Bonny on a previous trip


edited by tekewin on 9/10/2017
9/10/2017
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Topic: The Island - PAH BM
Well I bagged that tough Spring BM today. Heck of a hike! smile
9/10/2017
Topic:
North McCain Valley

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Topic: North McCain Valley
Britain wrote:
Its tragic whats happened to McCain area with power lines and turbines. Last time I was there in 2002 we packed down the trail to Cranebrake. Hoping find some of the McCain history. In the 70's we tested our rock climbing skills on the big junk of granite. I dont remember the name of it anymore. Did loose some anchors in it.


If you drive to the end of the road and don't look south, it's still a great place to escape. There's going to be huge turbines just north of Cottonwood Campground to keep you company from now on.
9/10/2017
Topic:
North McCain Valley

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Topic: North McCain Valley
Its tragic whats happened to McCain area with power lines and turbines. Last time I was there in 2002 we packed down the trail to Cranebrake. Hoping find some of the McCain history. In the 70's we tested our rock climbing skills on the big chunk of granite. I dont remember the name of it anymore. Did loose some anchors in it.
edited by Britain on 9/10/2017
9/10/2017
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North McCain Valley

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I caught one of the base sections @ Buckman Springs. Made in Korea.
9/10/2017
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North McCain Valley

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Drove out to McCain Valley yesterday for a dayhike. Went to the end of McCain Valley Rd and then just kept going. There's an abandoned dirt road heading north but it's pretty hard to follow. Was mainly cloudy and foggy with brief rain showers throughout the day but great to be out of the heat. The scenery sure has change out there.

McCain Valley Road, Now, there's a second row of power poles for the wind turbines.

New McCain Valley Rd by tomteske, on Flickr

Pulling Wire by tomteske, on Flickr

The turbines are going up quickly. Already a bunch of towers in place behind Lark Canyon. Assuming everyone quit work when the thunderstorm rolled through...

Turbine by tomteske, on Flickr

Meandered up the valley till I got to the start of the steep descent into Canebrake. This is a from a rocky promintory overlooking Canebrake. Great expansive views.

Canebrake by tomteske, on Flickr

Looking North up Canebrake. Pepperwood Canyon is in the foreground.

Canebrake North by tomteske, on Flickr

Looking across Pepperwood Canyon at Peppwood Peak, the one in the middle.

Pepperwood Canyon by tomteske, on Flickr

The sky had mainly cleared on the way out. More pics of how things have changed.

Striations by tomteske, on Flickr

Three Colors by tomteske, on Flickr

Turbine Parts by tomteske, on Flickr


Sombrero View by tomteske, on Flickr

Enjoy. Tom
9/9/2017
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Guess I wont run across the freeway after all.
9/9/2017
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Britain wrote:
Who names these things. Spring? Was there a Spring there? I may hopp across the freeway to look at LOAF on the way out Sunday.


Well, here it is. Or isn't. Looks like BM LOAF got replaced with a generic disk. Too bad.

BM LOAF by tomteske, on Flickr

Missing LOAF by tomteske, on Flickr


LOAF Local by tomteske, on Flickr
9/9/2017
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The Island - PAH BM

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Seen where you went up today to POH. Bee line!. LOAF yup Sugarloaf.
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And LOAF maybe from Sugarloaf nearby?
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Prob short for Mountainsprings.
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Who names these things. Spring? Was there a Spring there? I may hopp across the freeway to look at LOAF on the way out Sunday.
9/9/2017
Topic:
BM's

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tommy750 wrote:
Peakbaggers.com has BMs. They list BM PAH at the incorrect location and three people report bagging it but none actually leave a trip report.

http://www.peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=27325

John Strauch, the first entry at peakbagger is the first entry on the register and the date matches...but the map is wrong.

9/9/2017
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BM's

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Peakbaggers.com has BMs. They list BM PAH at the incorrect location and three people report bagging it but none actually leave a trip report.

http://www.peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=27325
9/9/2017
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BM's

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Yes I'll use that as a source also. Just double check the gps. If theres 2 location check both if possible.
9/8/2017
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BM's

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Caltopo with the MapBuilder layer will also have them and have been accurate for me until PAH.
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BM's

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Thanks NOAA site has some good stuff.
9/8/2017
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The Island - PAH BM

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Topic: The Island - PAH BM
tommy750 wrote:
Britain wrote:
So what was that stuck in the rock crack? Looks like a bullet casing.



Someone shoved a water bottle in the crack.


Haha crack is bigger then it appears! .
9/8/2017
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BM's

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Try these. Both are incomplete but have lots of info. Tom

https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/CORS-Proxy/NGSDataExplorer/

https://www.geocaching.com/mark/
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The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
So what was that stuck in the rock crack? Looks like a bullet casing.



Someone shoved a water bottle in the crack.
9/8/2017
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BM's

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Are there any good resources for finding these? Some maps have them, have them on the wrong locations. I didnt know about these until reading the posts on this forum about them. So far I've walked over the INKO and MOAN BM's. And were close to others. I figure if I'm in the area why not and try and bag a few.
9/8/2017
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The Island - PAH BM

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So what was that stuck in the rock crack? Looks like a bullet casing.
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The Island - PAH BM

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Looks like a fun trip guys. Too bad about the inaccurate locations on topos. Yep, the NOAA data explorer is a good tool to find these things. Go NOAA !
9/8/2017
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The Island - PAH BM

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Topic: The Island - PAH BM
Those surveyors back in 1958 probably found a few artifacts hiking all over the back country back then. Those guys were tough! So are you guys. Hiking in 108 degree temps! Whew. Thanks for sharing.
9/8/2017
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tommy750 wrote:

The Island's named BMs are DEVIL, INKO, PAH (those easy ones Daren did) and then the really tough ones, SPRING and LOAF. Bagged SPRING with a brutal 15ft RT 1ft G/L death march. LOAF is a few feet from the #1 westbound lane of I-8. Was blocked from LOAF by the wife who forbade me from dashing across both lanes last Friday night because of the holiday Zonie invasion that made crossing riskier than a Widlebeest fording the Mara River during a Serengeti migration smile


yep...still a few more BM's to go find.....
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The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
My first was a Garmin 60csx , bright screen battery life good. Busted the screen climbing in the rocks then lost it on the eastern mesa of table mountain. No freeze ups worked great. I now have the Garmen Oregon 500.

I wonder how many 60csx units are buried out in the wilderness....I lost one out in a canyon in Canebrake, another hiking buddy lost one coming down from 6582. I had the Oregon before the Montana and it worked great, I gave it to Gary. Was looking at the watch ones but again battery life is dismal.
9/7/2017
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Was kinda warm that day but the desert is a four season adventure! Here's a few more pics:

Already about 100 degrees

P1030206 by tomteske, on Flickr


Here's the "rock art" I was admiring in that large boulder:

P1030214 by tomteske, on Flickr

The turbine view about halfway up to BM Not PAH

P1030208 by tomteske, on Flickr

Daren admiring the view

P1030210 by tomteske, on Flickr

P1030213 by tomteske, on Flickr


The Island's named BMs are DEVIL, INKO, PAH (those easy ones Daren did) and then the really tough ones, SPRING and LOAF. Bagged SPRING with a brutal 15ft RT 1ft G/L death march. LOAF is a few feet from the #1 westbound lane of I-8. Was blocked from LOAF by the wife who forbade me from dashing across both lanes last Friday night because of the holiday Zonie invasion that made crossing riskier than a Widlebeest fording the Mara River during a Serengeti migration smile

IMG_3902 by tomteske, on Flickr

BM Spring by tomteske, on Flickr
9/7/2017
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The Island - PAH BM

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My first was a Garmin 60csx , bright screen battery life good. Busted the screen climbing in the rocks then lost it on the eastern mesa of table mountain. No freeze ups worked great. I now have the Garmen Oregon 500. Screen brightness sucks rocks but can be read. Have 4 maps loaded, Baja, Italy , California and the stock map. No freeze ups, battery life soso depends on how many times I pull up the screen. Will last 16 hrs. Always carry spare batts. Can load satellite image overlays but only through Garmen. I use it more for tracks, trip meter and marking items. I'll use the compass with way points (added before) for getting to and from in rough stuff. Has funky camera never use it.
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The Island - PAH BM

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AlpineQuest on my phone....I had a Garmin 680 and it would freeze or reboot several times on each trip, I had it replaced with a new one and same thing, different versions of firmware, same thing...so I sold it. May get another model though, phone batteries just don't last out in the field for days at a time.
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The Island - PAH BM

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What are you using now for the tracks and item locations?
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The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
Yes looks like the way I'll drive up to the end of what you can do on the side of 8 , The Calif Topo I use has the correct location . Its free. You can get it here. Loads on my Garmin fine and Base camp.
https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/

Yeah, I have that map also but I sold my garmin awhile ago, may get another. Also used the Arizona map from there.
9/7/2017
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The Island - PAH BM

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Yes looks like the way I'll drive up to the end of what you can do on the side of 8 , The Calif Topo I use has the correct location . Its free. You can get it here. Loads on my Garmin fine and Base camp.
https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/
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The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
OK got it. Doesn't look like any easy way up.

Wasn't too bad actually...the route Tom and I took was worse

9/7/2017
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The Island - PAH BM

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Topic: The Island - PAH BM
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Britain wrote:
PAH, I havent been on the northern end but I also show 2 positions for this. One on the far North and the other near where the 2 sides of the freeway are closest. Which one ?
It is the peak across from 1740, near the power line towers


OK got it. Doesn't look like any easy way up.




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