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1 hours ago
Topic:
Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP

rockhopper
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Tommy and Gary,
Great adventure! Nice to see running water. That's a great place to find "cooler " temps when our desert heats up. Did you guys have to go thru a lot of poison oak? I am a magnet for that stuff down near the creeks. The Oriflame / Rodriguez loop is a neat one too. Nice arrow points you guys found! Gary's looks very unusual and old!!!! Material made of ?? Your green point is neat too. Obviously these ancient peoples were using what ever they could find to manufacture arrow/spear points when the ancient Lake Cahuilla covered the best local obsidian source. btw I found a green point near the coast years back. I think they used rhyolite??? or other semi chipping material.
edited by rockhopper on 4/26/2017
15 hours ago
Topic:
Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP

tommy750
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ziphius wrote:
Great point finds too. Was this an out-an-back trip or a counter-clockwise loop going through Mason Valley eventually?



Always nice to find some artifacts especially since we were preceded by a zillion collectors and cattle hooves. We did a loop.

I'm thinking Gary's done the hide the beer in a stream thing before smile Great idea.
15 hours ago
Topic:
Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP

tommy750
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dsefcik wrote:
Nice trip Tom, wish I could have gone with you.


Yep, you would have enjoyed yourself. Didn't realize how big Cottonwood Canyon really is looking at GE. That alone would be a nice three day trip.
16 hours ago
Topic:
Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP

ziphius
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Great point finds too. Was this an out-an-back trip or a counter-clockwise loop going through Mason Valley eventually?
16 hours ago
Topic:
Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP

ziphius
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Trip reports like that make this forum great. smile Thanks. Gary and the beer storage, would have never thought of that....
17 hours ago
Topic:
Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP

dsefcik
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Topic: Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP
Nice trip Tom, wish I could have gone with you.
1 days ago
Topic:
Oriflame to Cottonwood Canyon 3 day BP

tommy750
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As a very sketchy Plan B to a cancelled Santa Rosas backpack trip three weeks ago, Gary and I, the last hikers standing after cancellations, decided to head out to Oriflame Canyon. The canyon, an entry to the Lagunas for centuries, was first traveled by a European in 1772 (San Diego Military Commander Pedro Fages chasing deserters) and later by postmen, miners and ranchers. We started at the old CCC Camp Hark where workers carved out the Mason Truck Trail in the 1930s.

Steps from an abandoned Camp Hark structure.

Stairway to Oriflame by tomteske, on Flickr

Heading up Oriflame Creek. Still nice and green with lots of flowing water.

Oriflame Creek by tomteske, on Flickr

Really spent only minutes looking at GE and a topo map to plan the hike and only had a few points on the GPS. We were to head upstream till we got past BM Roost and then head left up to a "plateau" behind Oriflame Mt. where we would explore old mining and ranching sites. Gary was pretty skeptical but brought the wrong topo map so was stuck with me leading the way. Finally bush whacked our way 1,000 ft up to the base of BM Roost aided by brush clearing from prior fires.

BM Roost on the right and Whale in the background.

Boundary by tomteske, on Flickr

Lots of old troughs and feeder pipes leading mainly to tanks from the old ranching days.

Tank by tomteske, on Flickr

Made our way toward some mines high in Oriflame Canyon passing by beautiful magenta purple colored bushes I don't know the name of.

Magenta by tomteske, on Flickr

Magenta Bush by tomteske, on Flickr

Spent the night above a gurgling Oriflame Creek.

Camp 1 by tomteske, on Flickr

Never grow tired of this sound. Click to listen.

P1020525 by tomteske, on Flickr

The next day, headed nearby to explore some old mining ruins.

The remains of an old mining shack destroyed by one of recent fires.

Cabin Remnants by tomteske, on Flickr

Bed by tomteske, on FlickrOr

Nearby shafts.

Mine Shaft by tomteske, on Flickr

Shaft by tomteske, on Flickr

Lots of bush whacking on old mining roads choked with brush and fallen trees. Gary heading through a nice meadow.

Gary Grass by tomteske, on Flickr

Made it to a old ranching site with an abandoned car.

Wreck by tomteske, on Flickr

Door Handle by tomteske, on Flickr

Wandered a few feet away and stumbled onto lots of pottery and flakes and this nice green Desert Side Notch, abandoned before completion.

Green Point by tomteske, on Flickr

Unfinished by tomteske, on Flickr

My smugness didn't last long when a little bit up the trail, Gary found an amazing Paleoindian Lanceolate point.

Paleo by tomteske, on Flickr

Really weathered. Showed this pic to Jeff Sahagun, BLM Archaeologist, and he was quite impressed with Gary's find.

Paleo Point by tomteske, on Flickr

Finally made it to the top of Cottonwood Canyon. The old ranching road and now Cottonwood Hiking Trail would take us 2,000 ft to the canyon floor and our next camp next to the flowing Salt Creek.

Cottonwood Canyon by tomteske, on Flickr

Tommy750 by tomteske, on Flickr

Gary heading down.

Lone Hiker2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Camping next the the flowing Salt Creek and serenaded by frogs all night.

Salt Creek by tomteske, on Flickr

On the final day, visited a rock art site Daren said was nearby. Interesting cupules with four vertical grooves.

Pit and Groove by tomteske, on Flickr

Lots of old ranching and mining ruins on the valley floor. An old rock cabin partially hewn into the surrounding granite.

Rock House by tomteske, on Flickr

Chimney by tomteske, on Flickr

Carved by tomteske, on Flickr

View2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Looking west up Cottonwood Canyon.

Cottonwood Canyon 2 by tomteske, on Flickr

The trip ended up being about 19 miles, 4K G/L. Multiple streams crossed and lots of green for a change.

Gary holding the cold beers he hid in Oriflame Creek for our return. Enjoy. Tom

Three Cold Ones by tomteske, on Flickr
2 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

Borregolinda
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tekewin wrote:
Borregolinda wrote:

What story? What details do you want? Unfortunately he ended his life in his desert. Not sure what other details are needed to be released.



Oh, I didn't automatically go there. I read it as either an accident or someone shot him. I didn't mean to disparage him or this tragedy.


No worries. It just came across wrong. He was such a great guy, tend to get a bit protective.
2 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

tekewin
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Borregolinda wrote:

What story? What details do you want? Unfortunately he ended his life in his desert. Not sure what other details are needed to be released.



Oh, I didn't automatically go there. I read it as either an accident or someone shot him. I didn't mean to disparage him or this tragedy.
4 days ago
Topic:
Strange things you find in the desert.

Britain
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Cool! I see from the link theres one on the goat canyon trestle.
edited by Britain on 4/21/2017
5 days ago
Topic:
Border Patrol

railexplorer
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railexplorer
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Topic: Border Patrol
I ran into some BP agents today, in San Diego, and I asked them whether they knew if the BP out east had Navy grey helicopters in their inventory. They said they hadn't heard of any, but did say that on rare occasions they have worked with the military. Its possible that its a Navy helicopter that had to set down due to an inflight emergency and the BP came to assist the crew, before any one from NAS El Centro made it to their location. As we all know its always good to have friendlies around when you're out in the desert.

One thing about the desert, if you spend enough time out in it you will see the military fly over at some point. I've seen Apache gunships in Carrizo Gorge, been flat hatted (low pass overhead) by F18's on the North side of the Salton Sea and buzzed in a couple of other places.
5 days ago
Topic:
Strange things you find in the desert.

dsefcik
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Topic: Strange things you find in the desert.
RobMay wrote:
That's a Spencer Little sculpture. He works in San Diego.

https://www.instagram.com/johnniesmalls/?hl=en



Thanks for posting that!!! I like it!
5 days ago
Topic:
Border Patrol

dsefcik
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Topic: Border Patrol
I remember reading somewhere awhile back that BP either partners with the navy or they use some of their helicopters, maybe retired ones or such and you will see them flying over key areas of the desert all the time, Carrizo Gorge, Canebrake/Inner Pasture are well known areas for activity. As Ranger Steve (RIP) would always say, "they have non permitted sensors" all over those areas and you will most likely set them off while hiking.

If you encounter BP out the field just talk to them, they have lots of good info about the area and they have always been friendly to me, they have told me where to find rock art and Bighorn Sheep. I have never had any problems with them, even at the checkpoints. They are real people just doing their job.
5 days ago
Topic:
Strange things you find in the desert.

RobMay
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That's a Spencer Little sculpture. He works in San Diego.

https://www.instagram.com/johnniesmalls/?hl=en
6 days ago
Topic:
Border Patrol

railexplorer
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railexplorer
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Topic: Border Patrol
Hi Mandie,
That helicopter looks to be a Navy one, although it is missing a Navy insignia. I have never seen the BP fly a helicopter in that color.

As for what was going on..... good question? I have some ideas about it but it would be pure speculation on my part and not worth posting.

As for avoiding the BP, I would say the best thing to do is approach them and ask them if you need to avoid them. Anytime I'm near or on the border I will approach the first BP agent I find and tell them where I'm heading and if there's anything going on in that sector I should be concerned about. The agents in the field have always been friendly, professional and full of information. The only time I've ever had an BP agent be less than friendly was at a checkpoint. They're not big into answering questions at checkpoints, especially if there's traffic.

You have to remember the border can be a pretty rough place.
6 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

Borregolinda
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tekewin wrote:
I can't believe there are still no details on this. I don't know why the story would not be released, but it is somewhat unsettling. RIP ranger Steve.
edited by tekewin on 4/20/2017


What story? What details do you want? Unfortunately he ended his life in his desert. Not sure what other details are needed to be released.
6 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

tekewin
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I can't believe there are still no details on this. I don't know why the story would not be released, but it is somewhat unsettling. RIP ranger Steve.
edited by tekewin on 4/20/2017
6 days ago
Topic:
First time in the park- need recommendations

dlichterman
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Came here to recommend Culp Valley as well. Temps are usually 10-15 degrees cooler than Borrego Springs. Grapevine Canyon is a fun easy offroad trail you could take down to the 78 where you could find some more hiking. Be careful with the heat and bring plenty of water.

There is also Rodriguez and Orriflame canyon if you wanted to not be in a campground - but you have to be careful where you camp as there is a lot of private land up there.
7 days ago
Topic:
First time in the park- need recommendations

dsefcik
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Topic: First time in the park- need recommendations
Be careful, it is definitely rattlesnake season right now and let us know how your trip turns out.
7 days ago
Topic:
First time in the park- need recommendations

zuey
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Great- Thank you!
7 days ago
Topic:
First time in the park- need recommendations

dsefcik
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Topic: First time in the park- need recommendations
Culp Valley and Shelter Valley (Earthquake / Blair / Little Blair Valley) will be cooler due to their higher altitudes and some (legal) offroad opportunities exist as well as plenty of primitive camping and hiking.
7 days ago
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

Britain
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I have the same picture, I believe for correct alignment the original photographer was on the freeway. Thats trail coming down from table mountain. But I could be wrong been many years.
7 days ago
Topic:
First time in the park- need recommendations

zuey
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Hi all
I am thinking of visiting the parking for some hiking and camping this week ( April 20). I live in SF and I'm flying to San Diego.The weather shows it's 94 degrees! Should I not be thinking about this?!! We like to camp in remote places- perhaps not designated sites. Are there any places you could recommend with some shade and good hikes around? We will have a 4 wheel drive. Are there some higher elevations which might be cooler? I would also welcome other recommendations for primitive camping near San Diego. Thank you!
7 days ago
Topic:
Trying to figure out where this is in the park

dlichterman
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Oh damn that looks just like it, thanks! Looks like if you go from Indian grove you gotta go over the hill, but coming from mountain springs camp is mostly flat along the wash?
7 days ago
Topic:
Trying to figure out where this is in the park

anutami
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yes it looks like he went hiking around the Mtn Palm Spring area and to be specific it looks like Palm Bowl Gove, There is also access up through Indian Gorge, just passed Torote Canyon



here is a link to check out
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/mar/06/roam-indian-gorge-palm-bowl/#
7 days ago
Topic:
Trying to figure out where this is in the park

dlichterman
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dsefcik wrote:
Probably Mtn Palm Springs area.



That was my thought as well - I think the Palm Bowl grove or Southwest grove looking at the satellite images on google maps and comparing to california trail map

Might have to go do some hiking.

7 days ago
Topic:
Trying to figure out where this is in the park

dsefcik
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Probably Mtn Palm Springs area.
7 days ago
Topic:
Trying to figure out where this is in the park

dlichterman
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Hey all -

My grandfather recently passed away and we were looking at some old slides of when they would camp out there in the 70s. I was wondering if any of you recognize these and could point out where it is. I think it looks like the Indian Gorge area but I've only been out there once on the north fork and I don't remember it well.

Sorry for the poor quality - I could go back with a DSLR and try to take better pics if needed.






Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
-Daniel
9 days ago
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

sddarkman619
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nope, the freeway is next to it. if you want to check it out sometime let me know I'll take you there.
From Jacumba.
10 days ago
Topic:
Border Patrol

Mandie
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Mandie
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Topic: Border Patrol
Hi everyone! I usually lurk all your wonderful posts but am breaking my silence to ask a question. I was heading out from Vallecito on the S-2 on Thursday evening and saw a big plume of dust go up across from Bow Willow. I grabbed my binoculars and saw one of the big helicopters that Border Patrol uses taking off. As I drove closer I found another was still on the ground and Border Patrol seemed all atwitter. In fact, they seemed atwitter all day; they arrested 4 people when I arrived in the morning at the Ocotillo checkpoint and they were parked everywhere I looked all the way up to Blair Valley. Does anyone know what that was all about? Google defies me so I thought I'd ask here. BP always gives me the rigmarole so I like to know when I should try to avoid them.
12 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

Borregolinda
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May,1st at the Borrego Springs High School, 10 AM.
12 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

Buford
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Very sad. Looks like a memorial will be held May 1st.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/north-county/sd-no-ranger-bier-20170413-story.html
15 days ago
Topic:
My Ride

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: My Ride
Nice. I maybe getting a Tacoma later. I've gone up, down and did it at night. I figure has many times as I've done that hill, the hill will have a pay back soon.
18 days ago
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

Britain
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Seen that one. I tried to place but I think the freeway is in the way.
19 days ago
Topic:
My Ride

sddarkman619
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Topic: My Ride
LOVE that hill.
here's my ride going down...
Britain let me know when you are going out, I might join you sometime. That is if you are ok with Tacomas. smile



Feel free to view in full screen.
19 days ago
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

sddarkman619
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Here's mine from the old stage road behind Table Mountain
and here's a GREAT article about the area of the old Stage Road including time tables:
http://www.sandiegohistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/V62_1Streetman.pdf

old-stage-coachroad by sddarkman619, on Flickr
19 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

sddarkman619
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Damn. upset
19 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba and Table Mountain Exploration

Britain
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I've hiked a lot the North Eastern side of table mountain. Tried to see If I could hook up with the upper mesa at Montero. I have seen no Yonies in this area. Did find where Devils Canyon Starts. Found some pottery frags.
19 days ago
Topic:
1968 Borrego Mtn. 6.5 Earth Quake Anniversary

tommy750
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Ah, the good 'ol days! Nice pics, Rockhopper.
20 days ago
Topic:
1968 Borrego Mtn. 6.5 Earth Quake Anniversary

ziphius
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Nice old photos rockhopper!
20 days ago
Topic:
1968 Borrego Mtn. 6.5 Earth Quake Anniversary

Britain
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Cool memories!
20 days ago
Topic:
1968 Borrego Mtn. 6.5 Earth Quake Anniversary

rockhopper
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coming April 8th. I was going thru of Dad's slide photos and found these. It will be 49 years this Saturday. Still hiking and camping all these years later. It was the most powerful EQ to hit the San Diego region in 15 years.

This was near the Ocotillo airport.


Checking out the cracks.

Hwy 78 already repaired.

Looks like were were camping near Yaqui well. My brother and I exploring with Dad. You can see Dad's car off in the distance.

edited by rockhopper on 4/5/2017
edited by rockhopper on 4/5/2017
21 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

dsefcik
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https://www.gofundme.com/in-memory-of-ranger-steve-bier
22 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba and Table Mountain Exploration

outnabout
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i will gladly provide a copy of my thesis to anyone who is interested. I have also been looking at sites up in Riverside....same thing up there...n
Mode 1 fractures, naturally occurring and not enhanced.
22 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

surfponto
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Topic: Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident
Wow I had not heard about this.
Very sad.
We met him a couple times and he was always friendly. :-(

dsefcik wrote:
No details yet but a very, very sad day....Ranger Steve will be missed by the many that knew him.

http://www.borregosun.com/story/2017/04/01/news/borrego-springs-ranger-shooting/3462.html
23 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

tommy750
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Tragic news.
23 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

Borregolinda
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Statement from State Parks''

http://www.borregosun.com/story/2017/04/01/news/state-park-statement/3469.html
25 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

Britain
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Just awful!
25 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

Borregolinda
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So very sad. When I saw this yesterday I couldn't believe it. We had just heard him on the scanner Sunday in a foot chase that resulted in 2 arrests. He was such a fixture in the Park and in our town Always stopped to talk and ask about our dog. Always smiling. Will miss him and miss hearing him check into work....24boy24 playing ranger in Borrego.
25 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

rockhopper
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Oh no. Sad day for a honorable man. Sending our prayers to the family and friends.
25 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

Buford
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That is terrible news.

I don't know what to say.
26 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

anutami
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Devastating news upset crying right now and my son who he was amazing to will be just as devastated when he finds out. Steve was nothing but nice and my thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.
26 days ago
Topic:
Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident

dsefcik
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Topic: Ranger Steve dies in shooting incident
No details yet but a very, very sad day....Ranger Steve will be missed by the many that knew him.

http://www.borregosun.com/story/2017/04/01/news/borrego-springs-ranger-shooting/3462.html
26 days ago
Topic:
Red Tail and Kestrel going at it.

Britain
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tekewin wrote:
Awesome birds! Awesome snake! Those are some high quality shots. Impressed.


Thanks. I carry 4 lens ( 10-18mm, 100mm macro, 100-400mm and 18-135mm) and use a 60 liter pack to store the stuff. Sometimes a smuggle some of it into my wife's day pack when shes not looking. smile
27 days ago
Topic:
Red Tail and Kestrel going at it.

tekewin
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Awesome birds! Awesome snake! Those are some high quality shots. Impressed.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Florian
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I placed a few geocaches in the AB before they were banned. I agree with the current ban.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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Here's the one that's near the crest line of Granite mountain. Biggo ammo box.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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Heres the last entry in the one I took out. But I may take the plastic lizard for memories...
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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dsefcik wrote:
Britain wrote:
Umm theres one on top of Red Hill off of S2. I found it a couple years back. Its an easy hike, I may go back and see if its still there. I took the one out of the Powder house area. Was more mad than happy about it.


If so inclined you can return them to the rangers at the station near the VC, they will usually try to contact the owner if the info is in the cache and offer to have them come pick it up. I know where several are but they are usually ammo cans and I just don't have the room in my pack or back strength to carry them out.


Yeah my packs pretty heavy with camera glass, I wouldn't take an ammo box.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

dsefcik
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Topic: Be careful for what you wish for.
Buford wrote:
I've found a couple spiders in summit registers bolt out and make me jump.

I don't like stumbling on geocaches. I think of them as litter.

I don't mind summit registers. I don't know if the rangers see a distinction though?
Geocache and Virtual Earth caches....

December 26, 2007.
By order of the:
Superintendent
Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
Colorado Desert District

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY

Numerous geocaches have been placed within the Anza-Borrego Desert State Park without authorization. No consideration was given to resource sensitivity in the placement of any of these geocaches, and many have been discovered in very sensitive locales. Caches have been removed from archeological sites, paleontological areas, bighorn sheep watering sites and in sensitive caves.

All physical geocaches placed within Anza-Borrego Desert State Park must be removed. If the cache owner does not take responsibility for removing his/her own cache, it will be removed for them and it will not be returned.

As of this date, December 21, 2007, placement of new physical caches will be prohibited in Anza-Borrego Desert State Park. Virtual Earth Caches will be considered on a case by case basis and must be approved before being

published on the Geocaching.com website.

Contact information for Earth cache approval:

Mark C. Jorgensen
Superintendent

Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
200 Palm Canyon Drive
Borrego Springs, CA 92004
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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Buford wrote:
I've found a couple spiders in summit registers bolt out and make me jump.

I don't like stumbling on geocaches. I think of them as litter.

I don't mind summit registers. I don't know if the rangers see a distinction though?



Interesting topic. Signed a few summits.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Buford
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I've found a couple spiders in summit registers bolt out and make me jump.

I don't like stumbling on geocaches. I think of them as litter.

I don't mind summit registers. I don't know if the rangers see a distinction though?
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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I'll keep it in the Jeep, Usually catch up with a ranger or 2. Don is the ranger for this area I bump into once in a while.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

dsefcik
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Topic: Be careful for what you wish for.
Britain wrote:
Umm theres one on top of Red Hill off of S2. I found it a couple years back. Its an easy hike, I may go back and see if its still there. I took the one out of the Powder house area. Was more mad than happy about it.


If so inclined you can return them to the rangers at the station near the VC, they will usually try to contact the owner if the info is in the cache and offer to have them come pick it up. I know where several are but they are usually ammo cans and I just don't have the room in my pack or back strength to carry them out.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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dsefcik wrote:
Back when the park banned them they had all of the geocache sites remove the listings, not sure they really keep up on it anymore though...I would be surprised to see any listed in the park though.


Umm theres one on top of Red Hill off of S2. I found it a couple years back. Its an easy hike, I may go back and see if its still there. I took the one out of the Powder house area. Was more mad than happy about it.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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ziphius wrote:
I was shaking the detritus out of an old Coors can that I'd picked up from the floor of Coyote Canyon last week, but having trouble getting all the junk out, so I pushed my finger into the tab to make the opening bigger and resumed shaking. I wasn't watching the can as I shook it, but as soon as the sound of stuff inside the can stopped, this windscorpion appeared at my feet. Luckily, they don't really sting people, they just pinch. smile


Well for sure once I got my heart back into my chest, I wont be so anxious to open containers now. Put my pack back on and continued. My boot picked a cholla love ball and planted onto the back side of my other leg, woke me up. Reminded me I'm still in the desert.
28 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

ziphius
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I was shaking the detritus out of an old Coors can that I'd picked up from the floor of Coyote Canyon last week, but having trouble getting all the junk out, so I pushed my finger into the tab to make the opening bigger and resumed shaking. I wasn't watching the can as I shook it, but as soon as the sound of stuff inside the can stopped, this windscorpion appeared at my feet. Luckily, they don't really sting people, they just pinch. smile
29 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

dsefcik
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Back when the park banned them they had all of the geocache sites remove the listings, not sure they really keep up on it anymore though...I would be surprised to see any listed in the park though.
29 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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Seems like the Geocache website this is from, Team Gecko, has those things all over the park. This one is not listed. There was card inside.
29 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

dsefcik
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Topic: Be careful for what you wish for.
wow, I didn't think geocaches were that old...wink

geocaches were banned in ABDSP back in 2007 I believe it was, rangers will remove all geocaches found...just FYI for those that didn't know.
29 days ago
Topic:
Be careful for what you wish for.

Britain
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So I'm out following the R&R service roads east of the powder house. There's this large granite area full of caves and neat stuff. So I find this cave that has this frame of some long ago brief case.

Perhaps this was some payroll case? Imagination running here. So I look around and see this in a hole on the wall of the cave.

So I reach in nervously and pull this canister out. What treasures await me? There is something in it, its rattling around.

It looks old and the lid is really rusty and has a hole in it. Some R&R worker hiding his goods? I cant manually open it. So I get my knife out. Here a pry there a pry the lid is opening. I put the knife down and use my hand to open it. As soon as the lid pops open ...something jumps out and lands on my face. I start swatting it, it moves to inside my hat. I fall back off the rock out cropping. Rip off my hat and it jumps to the ground...a lizard. Whew I climb back up to look at my findings....a geocache.....
3/26/2017
Topic:
Strange things you find in the desert.

DesertWRX
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Pretty nice job!
3/26/2017
Topic:
Anza Borrego Super Bloom crowds

Borregolinda
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Lived here for almost 13 years and the most people we've ever seen. However it's great for the town businesses to help survive the summer. This is a once in many year's happening and it will calm down soon! Still wouldn't live anywhere else!
3/26/2017
Topic:
My Ride

Britain
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Topic: My Ride
surfponto wrote:
Very nice.
What type of suspension?
Front coil overs look bad ass.....Toast



Rubicon 4.5 long arm. Its a bit high for my taste. Was going to put on 37's but for the best stopped putting money into it. Has dana 60 highs front and back both axes are locked.
3/26/2017
Topic:
Red Tail and Kestrel going at it.

ziphius
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Nice Crotalus ruber!
3/25/2017
Topic:
Red Tail and Kestrel going at it.

Britain
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Caught this one getting a little pissed off with me. Should be a good season for these.
3/25/2017
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

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dsefcik wrote:
Great photos..I really like them, thanks for posting. I was in that exact same spot near table mtn a couple weeks ago, was gonna go down to the spring but stopped near where that photo is taken and hiked around a bit. That was the weekend of the mass crowds in ABDSP, I didn't see a single sole that whole day out there though.

I like hiking the area thats north of that. The trail dead ends into some kind of nature preserve. Its in the North east corner of Table. In 2005 my wife lost her cell phone while we were on a hike. A few years later I went in to back track the track to find the cell and lost the GPS. ( Belt clip came off)

Two years ago we went back in and found the cell back tracking the tracks. Will probably go back in the next couple weeks and snoop around for the GPS.
3/25/2017
Topic:
Red Tail and Kestrel going at it.

dsefcik
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Nice photography, love the wildlife shots.
3/24/2017
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

dsefcik
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Great photos..I really like them, thanks for posting. I was in that exact same spot near table mtn a couple weeks ago, was gonna go down to the spring but stopped near where that photo is taken and hiked around a bit. That was the weekend of the mass crowds in ABDSP, I didn't see a single sole that whole day out there though.
3/23/2017
Topic:
Goat Canyon trip

Britain
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Topic: Goat Canyon trip
Couple weeks ago we passed a lot of people with flip-flops. While up at the newer powder house looking down there was lots of people hiking. Some look like they were in agony and not very prepared. Going down the tracks is a fairly easy trip.
3/21/2017
Topic:
Goat Canyon trip

railexplorer
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Topic: Goat Canyon trip
ziphius wrote:
Nice, too bad about the crowds.


The crowds were a bit surprising. Some of the people were not equipped for the hike. One guy was wearing flip flops. A couple of others weren't really sure where they started their hike from and thought about heading back a different way. There was a dad out with his two children and a dog. He sent the kids and the dog through tunnel 16 and over the rockfall while he walked around on the old construction trail.

It felt like rookie hiker day on the trail.
3/21/2017
Topic:
Best places for viewing?

tekewin
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Awesome photos! I could not drag the family out the last couple of weekends. I will be bummed if I miss this year.
3/21/2017
Topic:
Anza Borrego Super Bloom crowds

tekewin
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Crazy number of people. I am sure the multiple newspaper articles got more than a few people out.
3/21/2017
Topic:
Goat Canyon trip

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Goat Canyon trip
Nice, too bad about the crowds.
3/21/2017
Topic:
Goat Canyon trip

surfponto
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Topic: Goat Canyon trip
Awesome. Always fun reading about Goat Canyon.
Thanks for sharing
3/20/2017
Topic:
The "New" McCain Valley

tommy750
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ziphius wrote:
Looks like fun Tommy. Too bad about 'progress'. Were the tadpoles part of a natural or 'improved' watering area?


The pond appeared to have been created when a small stream's drainage culvert under Canebrake Rd plugged with debris. Still had good flow as did a couple other streams which was really nice to see. Going to be the second plague redux in a few weeks smile
3/20/2017
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

railexplorer
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Great photos. I had to laugh to see your jeep vs. their old cars.
3/20/2017
Topic:
Goat Canyon trip

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Topic: Goat Canyon trip
We headed out to the Goat Canyon Trestle last week. 3 of us rode in from De Anza Resort. We had originally planned to come in from Dos Cabezas but came in from the south because my son had not been through that part of the gorge. It had been 2 years since we had been in the gorge and a lot has changed. The most noticeable things were all of the rockfalls along the route and the graffiti.

One thing we did on this trip was spend some time at a few of the old work camp sites. My son, who loves history and anything old, had a great time looking at the camp sites and wondering what life was like and what was at the different sites. We had planned to go in search of a couple of sites, but due to the large number of people in the gorge (There were so many and more than a couple not prepared that we thought about starting a refreshment stand business out at the Trestle) we decided not to go off in search of work sites and have other people follow us. Our next trip out to the gorge will be focused on work camps and some work trails.

There was a pretty good wildflower bloom in progress and the cactus looked like they'll be in bloom any day now. There was lots of water flowing in the bottom of the gorge. You could here it flowing over small waterfalls and in the late afternoon there was more than one location where you could hear a lot of frogs croaking.

All in all a great trip.

Below are a few photos from the day.

Spring Bloom in Carrizo Gorge by Rail explorer, on Flickr


Bloom on tracks by Rail explorer, on Flickr


Cactus Bloom by Rail explorer, on Flickr

SDA&E Construction site by Rail explorer, on Flickr


The one major rockfall is at the North portal of tunnel 16, which is the tunnel on the north side of the Goat Canyon Trestle. If you go explore the fall beware that the rock above the fall has several large cracks in it, so there's more that's going to come down.

Inside Tunnel 16 by Rail explorer, on Flickr
3/20/2017
Topic:
The "New" McCain Valley

ziphius
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Topic: The "New" McCain Valley
Looks like fun Tommy. Too bad about 'progress'. Were the tadpoles part of a natural or 'improved' watering area?
3/20/2017
Topic:
The "New" McCain Valley

rockhopper
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Nice trip Tommy. Thanks for posting. Some neat finds there.
3/20/2017
Topic:
Desert Hot Springs

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Topic: Desert Hot Springs
My Wife has been dropping the hint to do some hot springs soaking, so no real heavy duty hiking this trip. My Wife stays home for that. hehe. Just did some local wanderings at the head of the Coachella valley. Out side ABDSP a bit but still saw some neat stuff.

Snow level looks around 8000 feet on north faces of San Jacinto and Torro peak as of last week, so have to wait a little longer to head up to summits.

Saw some baby humming birds ready for "lift off"

Wild Flowers still going

Map of the hot water aquifer below Desert Hot springs.

Ok, now I am rejuvenated. Ready for some more real hiking. :-)
Cheers
Rockhopper
edited by rockhopper on 3/20/2017
edited by rockhopper on 3/20/2017
3/20/2017
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

Britain
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Talk about mules. Here's some guys with a mule. I understand from a story they sold the mule somewhere around Superstition mountain.

Here's the location. Its Table mountain.

And the overlay. I'm a bit out of position on the shot.
3/20/2017
Topic:
The "New" McCain Valley

surfponto
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Topic: The "New" McCain Valley
Great trip but really sorry to see that project ramping up. :-(
edited by surfponto on 3/20/2017
3/19/2017
Topic:
The "New" McCain Valley

tommy750
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Decided to head out to McCain Valley yesterday since the desert floor was a little toasty for an overnighter. Was I in for a surprise! I knew Tule Wind was coming but wasn't expecting a tsunami. Sunrise Powerlink was one thing but this project is orders of magnitude more disruptive to the wilderness. 50 ft access road? That's the same as four lanes of I-5. Looks like a number of turbines will be sitting on the road with essentially zero setback. With a west wind, those blades will be slicing overhead every time you pass by.

McCain Valley by tomteske, on Flickr

Trucks by tomteske, on Flickr

Clearing by tomteske, on Flickr

Turbine Foundation by tomteske, on Flickr

50 ft Swath by tomteske, on Flickr

Cottonwood by tomteske, on Flickr

After paying my parking fee at Cottonwood, I headed north. You can still pretty much escape in Northern McCain Valley at least for now.

The view toward the Jacumba Mts

Toward Jacumba by tomteske, on Flickr

Balancing Act

Balance by tomteske, on Flickr

Obligatory lighted tent shot

Campsite by tomteske, on Flickr

Did a little exploring this morning. Nice rock shelter with a small metate sitting on a rock and possibly a prayer stick.

Rockshelter 300M North by tomteske, on Flickr

A nearby broken metate

Broken Metate 40M NE by tomteske, on Flickr

Faded pictograph panel

C-636 Pictos_yrd by tomteske, on Flickr

These almost look like orchids

Desert Orchids by tomteske, on Flickr

Definitely flowing water out there for the first time in years. Lots of tadpoles in this pond

Tadpoles by tomteske, on Flickr

Enjoy. Tom
3/19/2017
Topic:
The Superstition Mountains

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Sure 47 ft is possible but the author has the ship in the dunes which is about 150 ft. Not possible. When Anza came through the area wasn't flooded. Given this I would guess that the rise in the water was contributed to sediment build up south of Mexicali. This was probably washed out in another river flooding. Mini black sea episode.
edited by Britain on 3/19/2017
3/19/2017
Topic:
The Superstition Mountains

rockhopper
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Around 1600, during the last full fill of ancient Lake Cahuilla the "spill over" elevation into the Gulf of California was about 47 feet above sea level which matches the "bath tub" ring exposed around the Coachella and Imperial valleys. It was possible to sail upstream into the Salton sink, Lake Cahuilla during a Colorado river flood stage which could last for months. The now lower elevation of 35 feet above sea level is a result of the classic "pull apart" basin geology going on as we write.
3/19/2017
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

rockhopper
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Is that bus driver wearing a tie? Oh my what a place to be in a jamb. I think I would have chosen a mule for that journey back then.
3/19/2017
Topic:
My Ride

rockhopper
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That second photo reminds me why I park my truck and walk. yikes! Hope every one walked away ok.
3/19/2017
Topic:
Old Desert photography locations

surfponto
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Very impressed that you can line up these shots and make out the landscape
Can't believe they took that "bus" out through that.

Britain wrote:
Here's a bus. The wheel broke off.

Here's the same place. My friend is guiding his wife up out of the hole. This location is under the first bridge coming out of the desert on hwy 8

No overlay, I'm out of position on the shot.
3/19/2017
Topic:
My Ride

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Very nice.
What type of suspension?
Front coil overs look bad ass.....Toast




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