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2017 Sheep Count info

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sddarkman619 wrote:
Didn't Ranger Steve used to do this?

Yes

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1274-ranger-steve-dies-in-shooting-incident.aspx
3 days ago
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2017 Sheep Count info

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Daren I signed up for this and got no notification. any idea why?
There were new folks coordinating the sheep count effort this year, it is possible some volunteers were not contacted, I am not sure. There is contact info for the new people at this link I would suggest contacting them to find out and make sure you are on the email list for the 2018 count.


Didn't Ranger Steve used to do this?
4 days ago
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2017 Sheep Count info

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Daren I signed up for this and got no notification. any idea why?
There were new folks coordinating the sheep count effort this year, it is possible some volunteers were not contacted, I am not sure. There is contact info for the new people at this link I would suggest contacting them to find out and make sure you are on the email list for the 2018 count.
4 days ago
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2017 Sheep Count info

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Daren I signed up for this and got no notification. any idea why?
4 days ago
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BM's

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Fantastic map with great old time info. Thanks for sharing! I really like the "under construction" new State hwy.
7 days ago
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North McCain Valley

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Saw the new GE images. Looks bad up close and from afar.
7 days ago
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Railroad Police

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This guy was pretty determined to do this. He wheeled from the east coast just to do the gorge.
7 days ago
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Railroad Police

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Last year the tracks were like a highway at rush hour. really full of people out enjoying what they do. I was surprised when I saw this one on the bridge.
7 days ago
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North McCain Valley

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Interesting they must have recently updated GE. I see this else where also.
8 days ago
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North McCain Valley

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9 days ago
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Railroad Police

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The large rail cars are still derailed near De Anza resort, any access would have to come from Dos Cabezas. There are dozens...yes dozens of cyclists and hikers almost every single weekend going out to the trestle, there is no way they will enforce anything right now without massive effort. In the last 2 years I have seen several groups of 10 or more motorcyclists on the tracks, tourist groups shuttled in from baja and the De Anza resort now putting up no parking signs all along the road...it is really bad now.
9 days ago
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Railroad Police

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You won't see them out there now..... at least not in their vehicles. (That vehicle setup is called a Hi-rail by the way.) With zero maintenance in the gorge there's zero chance of a vehicle getting through on the tracks. The Border Patrol would occasionally use a Hi-rail vehicle to patrol the gorge.

I don't know if the RR police still patrol out that way and there would be questions to their ability to enforce anything anyway.
11 days ago
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North McCain Valley

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Progress....we all just need to go back to outhouses and horses.....
11 days ago
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BM's

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Ditto, very cool...thanks for posting.
11 days ago
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That is a cool map! Thanks.
11 days ago
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BM's

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I was wondering why a 1/4 section was marked. So I dug into some old maps. Didn't find the reason yet but found this cool map from 1910 of Western Imperial County. Its a bit large.

edited by Britain on 9/11/2017
12 days ago
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BM's

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Thanks makes sense.. I'm sort of familiar been working with Plat maps. I'll gps it next time to see how it matches up. .
12 days ago
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Railroad Police

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Yes they do exist. Picture taken in 2014 on the hill south of Goat Canyon. They have drop down wheels that fit the track. I think the next tunnel is partially blocked from a slide.


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12 days ago
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BM's

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Britain wrote:
Question, Why would it be 1/4 S on S33? Caltopo survey map.
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I'm interpreting that marker to mean it's a quarter of the way along a boundary of Section 1. Assuming it's that particular S1 since you said it was near the downer turbine and that section also has a junction approximately 1/4 the way west of one of its corners.

Here's a nice blurb on Township and Range stuff: https://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/a_plss.html

I find the topics of surveying and geodetics fascinating on a superficial level but overwhelming past the basics.
12 days ago
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Question, Why would it be 1/4 S on S33? Caltopo survey map.
edited by Britain on 9/10/2017
edited by Britain on 9/10/2017
12 days ago
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BM's

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Guessing this is probably the exact location.

Here by tomteske, on Flickr
12 days ago
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BM's

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Though not a BM I found this near the Turbine that collapsed south of 8. I didn't have the gps so no exact location.


12 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Topic: The Island - PAH BM
This was an awesome report and PAH is going on my list! Way to stick with the research.

Darren, if you wouldn't mind, could you email Terry Flood through Peakbagger with the correct coordinates of PAH so he can fix the entry? He was the one who added it to the Peakbagger and I'm sure he would be happy to fix it. That's probably faster than contacting Greg Slayden who runs Peakbagger. I (and a lot of people) rely on accurate data there and you could save someone else the wild goose chase.
12 days ago
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Goat Benchmark

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I wasn't sure whether to post this under trip reports or here, but this is pretty hard to reach. Goat Benchmark is #45 on the Sierra Club San Diego Peak List. It is a small bump near the head of Hellhole Canyon and nearly invisible until you are right on top it. There are many small boulder piles in the area and picking it out without a GPS would take superior map skills. I used a GPS to find it, leaving from S22 and circling around to it from the north past the Thimble. I made a direct attempt in May from Culp Valley but ran out of time before reaching it that way. In one of the side canyons, I found deer parts and what looked like a juvenile deer head, still with some wet brain matter inside. Insects hadn't had enough time to clean it up completely.



Starting at sunrise




Goat is a small bump out there somewhere


Descending


Passing by The Thimble




Juvenile deer I think

As far as other wildlife, I startled a couple of adult mule deer, but they were too fast for me to get any photos. Jackrabbits and birds were in abundance. Bighorn scat was everywhere, but I didn't see any. It seemed like a long time before I finally laid eyes on Goat. Once found, the summit was an easy boulder. A higher mound stands just behind it. The register went back to 2001 and was quite thin. I was the fifth party to visit Goat in 2017. It doesn't see much activity. Unless you are chasing the San Diego list, there is no reason to go there. If you end up there by accident, you are probably in serious trouble. I don't know why the US Army Corps of Engineers decided to mark it, but I really appreciated the remoteness. It had great views, being sort of Hellhole Central.





Benchmark and register cans




Looking down Hellhole Canyon

Here it is circled from my trip in May, the direct route is pretty tough


On my way back, I climbed Clyde and Hut BM, I had done Bonny on a previous trip


edited by tekewin on 9/10/2017
12 days ago
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Well I bagged that tough Spring BM today. Heck of a hike! smile
12 days ago
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North McCain Valley

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Topic: North McCain Valley
Britain wrote:
Its tragic whats happened to McCain area with power lines and turbines. Last time I was there in 2002 we packed down the trail to Cranebrake. Hoping find some of the McCain history. In the 70's we tested our rock climbing skills on the big junk of granite. I dont remember the name of it anymore. Did loose some anchors in it.


If you drive to the end of the road and don't look south, it's still a great place to escape. There's going to be huge turbines just north of Cottonwood Campground to keep you company from now on.
12 days ago
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North McCain Valley

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Its tragic whats happened to McCain area with power lines and turbines. Last time I was there in 2002 we packed down the trail to Cranebrake. Hoping find some of the McCain history. In the 70's we tested our rock climbing skills on the big chunk of granite. I dont remember the name of it anymore. Did loose some anchors in it.
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13 days ago
Topic:
North McCain Valley

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I caught one of the base sections @ Buckman Springs. Made in Korea.
13 days ago
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North McCain Valley

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Drove out to McCain Valley yesterday for a dayhike. Went to the end of McCain Valley Rd and then just kept going. There's an abandoned dirt road heading north but it's pretty hard to follow. Was mainly cloudy and foggy with brief rain showers throughout the day but great to be out of the heat. The scenery sure has change out there.

McCain Valley Road, Now, there's a second row of power poles for the wind turbines.

New McCain Valley Rd by tomteske, on Flickr

Pulling Wire by tomteske, on Flickr

The turbines are going up quickly. Already a bunch of towers in place behind Lark Canyon. Assuming everyone quit work when the thunderstorm rolled through...

Turbine by tomteske, on Flickr

Meandered up the valley till I got to the start of the steep descent into Canebrake. This is a from a rocky promintory overlooking Canebrake. Great expansive views.

Canebrake by tomteske, on Flickr

Looking North up Canebrake. Pepperwood Canyon is in the foreground.

Canebrake North by tomteske, on Flickr

Looking across Pepperwood Canyon at Peppwood Peak, the one in the middle.

Pepperwood Canyon by tomteske, on Flickr

The sky had mainly cleared on the way out. More pics of how things have changed.

Striations by tomteske, on Flickr

Three Colors by tomteske, on Flickr

Turbine Parts by tomteske, on Flickr


Sombrero View by tomteske, on Flickr

Enjoy. Tom
13 days ago
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Topic: The Island - PAH BM
Guess I wont run across the freeway after all.
13 days ago
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
Who names these things. Spring? Was there a Spring there? I may hopp across the freeway to look at LOAF on the way out Sunday.


Well, here it is. Or isn't. Looks like BM LOAF got replaced with a generic disk. Too bad.

BM LOAF by tomteske, on Flickr

Missing LOAF by tomteske, on Flickr


LOAF Local by tomteske, on Flickr
13 days ago
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Seen where you went up today to POH. Bee line!. LOAF yup Sugarloaf.
13 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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And LOAF maybe from Sugarloaf nearby?
13 days ago
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Prob short for Mountainsprings.
13 days ago
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Who names these things. Spring? Was there a Spring there? I may hopp across the freeway to look at LOAF on the way out Sunday.
14 days ago
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BM's

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tommy750 wrote:
Peakbaggers.com has BMs. They list BM PAH at the incorrect location and three people report bagging it but none actually leave a trip report.

http://www.peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=27325

John Strauch, the first entry at peakbagger is the first entry on the register and the date matches...but the map is wrong.

14 days ago
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Peakbaggers.com has BMs. They list BM PAH at the incorrect location and three people report bagging it but none actually leave a trip report.

http://www.peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=27325
14 days ago
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Yes I'll use that as a source also. Just double check the gps. If theres 2 location check both if possible.
14 days ago
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Caltopo with the MapBuilder layer will also have them and have been accurate for me until PAH.
14 days ago
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BM's

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Thanks NOAA site has some good stuff.
14 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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So what was that stuck in the rock crack? Looks like a bullet casing.



Someone shoved a water bottle in the crack.


Haha crack is bigger then it appears! .
14 days ago
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Try these. Both are incomplete but have lots of info. Tom

https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/CORS-Proxy/NGSDataExplorer/

https://www.geocaching.com/mark/
14 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
So what was that stuck in the rock crack? Looks like a bullet casing.



Someone shoved a water bottle in the crack.
14 days ago
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BM's

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Are there any good resources for finding these? Some maps have them, have them on the wrong locations. I didnt know about these until reading the posts on this forum about them. So far I've walked over the INKO and MOAN BM's. And were close to others. I figure if I'm in the area why not and try and bag a few.
14 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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So what was that stuck in the rock crack? Looks like a bullet casing.
14 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Looks like a fun trip guys. Too bad about the inaccurate locations on topos. Yep, the NOAA data explorer is a good tool to find these things. Go NOAA !
14 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Those surveyors back in 1958 probably found a few artifacts hiking all over the back country back then. Those guys were tough! So are you guys. Hiking in 108 degree temps! Whew. Thanks for sharing.
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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tommy750 wrote:

The Island's named BMs are DEVIL, INKO, PAH (those easy ones Daren did) and then the really tough ones, SPRING and LOAF. Bagged SPRING with a brutal 15ft RT 1ft G/L death march. LOAF is a few feet from the #1 westbound lane of I-8. Was blocked from LOAF by the wife who forbade me from dashing across both lanes last Friday night because of the holiday Zonie invasion that made crossing riskier than a Widlebeest fording the Mara River during a Serengeti migration smile


yep...still a few more BM's to go find.....
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
My first was a Garmin 60csx , bright screen battery life good. Busted the screen climbing in the rocks then lost it on the eastern mesa of table mountain. No freeze ups worked great. I now have the Garmen Oregon 500.

I wonder how many 60csx units are buried out in the wilderness....I lost one out in a canyon in Canebrake, another hiking buddy lost one coming down from 6582. I had the Oregon before the Montana and it worked great, I gave it to Gary. Was looking at the watch ones but again battery life is dismal.
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Was kinda warm that day but the desert is a four season adventure! Here's a few more pics:

Already about 100 degrees

P1030206 by tomteske, on Flickr


Here's the "rock art" I was admiring in that large boulder:

P1030214 by tomteske, on Flickr

The turbine view about halfway up to BM Not PAH

P1030208 by tomteske, on Flickr

Daren admiring the view

P1030210 by tomteske, on Flickr

P1030213 by tomteske, on Flickr


The Island's named BMs are DEVIL, INKO, PAH (those easy ones Daren did) and then the really tough ones, SPRING and LOAF. Bagged SPRING with a brutal 15ft RT 1ft G/L death march. LOAF is a few feet from the #1 westbound lane of I-8. Was blocked from LOAF by the wife who forbade me from dashing across both lanes last Friday night because of the holiday Zonie invasion that made crossing riskier than a Widlebeest fording the Mara River during a Serengeti migration smile

IMG_3902 by tomteske, on Flickr

BM Spring by tomteske, on Flickr
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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My first was a Garmin 60csx , bright screen battery life good. Busted the screen climbing in the rocks then lost it on the eastern mesa of table mountain. No freeze ups worked great. I now have the Garmen Oregon 500. Screen brightness sucks rocks but can be read. Have 4 maps loaded, Baja, Italy , California and the stock map. No freeze ups, battery life soso depends on how many times I pull up the screen. Will last 16 hrs. Always carry spare batts. Can load satellite image overlays but only through Garmen. I use it more for tracks, trip meter and marking items. I'll use the compass with way points (added before) for getting to and from in rough stuff. Has funky camera never use it.
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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AlpineQuest on my phone....I had a Garmin 680 and it would freeze or reboot several times on each trip, I had it replaced with a new one and same thing, different versions of firmware, same thing...so I sold it. May get another model though, phone batteries just don't last out in the field for days at a time.
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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What are you using now for the tracks and item locations?
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
Yes looks like the way I'll drive up to the end of what you can do on the side of 8 , The Calif Topo I use has the correct location . Its free. You can get it here. Loads on my Garmin fine and Base camp.
https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/

Yeah, I have that map also but I sold my garmin awhile ago, may get another. Also used the Arizona map from there.
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Yes looks like the way I'll drive up to the end of what you can do on the side of 8 , The Calif Topo I use has the correct location . Its free. You can get it here. Loads on my Garmin fine and Base camp.
https://www.gpsfiledepot.com/
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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Britain wrote:
OK got it. Doesn't look like any easy way up.

Wasn't too bad actually...the route Tom and I took was worse

15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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PAH, I havent been on the northern end but I also show 2 positions for this. One on the far North and the other near where the 2 sides of the freeway are closest. Which one ?
It is the peak across from 1740, near the power line towers


OK got it. Doesn't look like any easy way up.
15 days ago
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From the Unpublished Series

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The CROS (California Roadkill Observation System) has published the 2016 Wildlife-Vehicle Collision Hotspots Report

Interesting reading....but hey, I take close up pictures of animal crap.....

Report Roadkill..!!! The data is useful to help save wildlife..!!
15 days ago
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The Island - PAH BM

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PAH, I havent been on the northern end but I also show 2 positions for this. One on the far North and the other near where the 2 sides of the freeway are closest. Which one ?
It is the peak across from 1740, near the power line towers
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The Island - PAH BM

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Topic: The Island - PAH BM
PAH, I havent been on the northern end but I also show 2 positions for this. One on the far North and the other near where the 2 sides of the freeway are closest. Which one ?
16 days ago
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Yep 2010. Chargers missed the playoffs ;-)
I'm liking your Desert attire Daren,

Bob
16 days ago
Topic:
The Island - PAH BM

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Copy/Pasted from my blog...took me two visits to find this one.

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The Island - PAH BM

A couple of weeks ago when the temperatures in Ocotillo were hovering around 108 degrees Tom and I set out to try and find the PAH BM which lies on one of the final bumps of the north end of The Island....or so we thought. I was using a link from Peakbagger and CalTopo maps to locate the BM but they are not correct on those maps and Tom and I found out the hard and Hot way that afternoon.

We met up at Millers Garage and took the old highway until it turned into the sandy wash road wich would cross under 2 bridges until the road ended at our steep rocky climb up.









At a flat open sandy spot near the top Tom was looking for rock art while I was checking out the view







At the top of peak 1740 we looked around for the PAH BM for about an hour and finally conceded it wasn't there, we must be looking in the wrong place. We found some shade and rested a bit, my thermometer in the shade showed 107.6. While we were discussing where the BM could possibly be my radio caught a SURCOM dispatcher call in a downed motorcycle 5 miles east of Ocotillo Wells and then changed it to 5 miles east the Border Patrol, Tom says "that would make it in the Salton Sea"....well the rest of the dispatch was kinda funny




It was hot and we called it a day and headed back home empty handed except for the one mylar balloon we found, a Mothers Day left over.

With Tom's help I found the correct listing on the USGS site for the PAH BM and this last weekend I tried again to find it, in another 107 degree day.



I think I finally found a BM that the Monday Manics have not visited..!!





There are some great views of Ocotillo and the windfarm...and a Turkey Vulture flew into view and buzzed close enough I could take a photo with my phone







I decided to try a selfie of me blending in with the desert environment



Driving home I noticed it looked like they finally replaced the Old Highway Cafe sign in Ocotillo

--original sign


--New sign



Total Mylar Balloons for both trips - 2


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edited by dsefcik on 9/6/2017
edited by dsefcik on 9/6/2017
26 days ago
Topic:
The Island - Inko BM

Britain
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Topic: The Island - Inko BM
Well they are not easy to find and photo. I see them from a distance and it seldom at least for me to catch them close-up. I've packed the area from 8 were Devils goes under the freeway all the way up to Table in all directions. This year I'll go Eastern Table mountain down to Montero palms to see whats in that area or go up from Montero palms.
28 days ago
Topic:
The Island - Inko BM

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Britain wrote:
I caught these guys up on the eastern mesa of Table Mountain. One is tagged. I saw the same bunch a month earlier at the lower bridge on 8. Picture was taken early May.

Nice pic, Britain. Was up in that same area in 2014 and have pics of green and red tagged ewes but not your blue one. Glad to see babies.
28 days ago
Topic:
The Island - Inko BM

Britain
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I caught these guys up on the eastern mesa of Table Mountain. One is tagged. I saw the same bunch a month earlier at the lower bridge on 8. Picture was taken early May.
29 days ago
Topic:
Indian Hill Pictographs

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Topic: Indian Hill Pictographs
I wonder what part of the Indian culture did the artist play? Was he/she just a regular so to speak.
29 days ago
Topic:
Indian Hill Pictographs

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Very true. Well said.
8/23/2017
Topic:
Indian Hill Pictographs

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I see what you are saying, that sun with a black circle in the middle then a totally black sun (if that is even what they are).....I don't think anyone but the actual artist could tell you what the paintings mean or represent with any authority.....all speculation.....professional or otherwise.
8/23/2017
Topic:
Indian Hill Pictographs

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I've only done a couple quick searches because work and school have me busy. I found there was one over Lompoc in 1923 but that seems really early. There was another in 1806 over Baja but that still seems pretty early and it was in July so I think they would have been at higher elevations. I may run it by my archaeology professor to see if he has any suggestions on informational resources. I'm new at this stuff. I kind of wanted to see if you guys knew if there was already an established interpretation of these paintings. My head exploded when I saw the eclipse and it looked like those suns and it's been rattling around in there since!
edited by Mandie on 8/23/2017
8/23/2017
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Indian Hill Pictographs

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Interesting idea, have you done any research on historical dates/times of when other solar eclipses may have happened in the past in that area?
8/23/2017
Topic:
Indian Hill Pictographs

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Hi guys,

I had a brain fart while watching the NASA footage of the total eclipse and wonder if the sun pictographs in Indian Hill are documentation of a total eclipse in the past? Thoughts?

On a semi-related note, I can't wait to get my copy of La Rumorosa. Super excited!

-Mandie




8/21/2017
Topic:
The Island - Inko BM

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Topic: The Island - Inko BM
ziphius wrote:
Daren, any bighorn 'sign'?
Only some day old droppings here and there...
8/21/2017
Topic:
The Island - Inko BM

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Daren, any bighorn 'sign'?
8/21/2017
Topic:
Exploring the Service roads above the Carrizo R&R

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tommy750 wrote:
Agree, that's a neat place to explore. Think we may share the same taste in artifacts smile

Yolk by tomteske, on Flickr

Knife by tomteske, on Flickr

Haha thats the same wheel and mounting bracket and looks like the same knife!
8/21/2017
Topic:
Davies Valley and Pinto Canyon

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tommy750 wrote:
Britain wrote:
The map from 1946, the areas labeled as springs would they be water springs? I haven't been in the south-west corner yet. But will put this on the list of todo.



I've see water near one of the three springs (Juniper). Don't see any of them listed as springs on topo maps however.


Thanks does appear they went through in winter. I'll check some of them out later.
8/21/2017
Topic:
Davies Valley and Pinto Canyon

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Britain wrote:
The map from 1946, the areas labeled as springs would they be water springs? I haven't been in the south-west corner yet. But will put this on the list of todo.



I've seen water near one of the three springs (Juniper). Don't see any of them listed as springs on topo maps however.
edited by tommy750 on 8/21/2017
8/21/2017
Topic:
The Island - Inko BM

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Topic: The Island - Inko BM
Daren, that island area and the area in general was one of the major Native American trail/ trading route from the Colorado River to the Pacific coast. It's no surprise that there are still artifacts present. The trail followed springs and walk in wells along the route. I read somewhere that a lot of the main trail is under Hwy 80 and I-8.
8/20/2017
Topic:
The Santa Rosas Sawmill Trail (Sort Of)

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Cool trip report...I love the Santa Rosas, spend a lot of time up there escaping the El Centro heat.
8/20/2017
Topic:
The Island - Inko BM

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Topic: The Island - Inko BM
Ok Roasting pit. Seen a few.
8/20/2017
Topic:
The Island - Inko BM

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copy/pasted from my blog

I found one of the mines Britain mentioned but not the other, I think I missed it by a couple hundred feet...next time!


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The Island - Inko BM



Headed back out to The Island yesterday to try and find the Inko Benchmark. It is one of several that are not marked on most maps but can be found as peak 2222 on the USGS topo maps. It was another hot day out, probably 100+ again. I parked where some shooting debris was and headed up into the boulders eventually picking up an old indian trail that had several roasting pits along the way. Some great views and this was another seldom visited BM as the register was only 2 small pages with a few sign ins....Monday Manics strike again.







Most of the route was straight thru SDG&E power lines, this is some rugged terrain.





Here is one of the hadnful of roasting pits I found with the powerline tower in the background



Great views up on the Inko peak, here is looking at the windfarm in Ocotillo



Highway 8 west and Devil BM peak



Here is looking south at Myer Valley and Slant Peak



There was one mine pit near the peak, there is supposed to be another but I did not see it.



Pottery, slicks, mortars, metates, etc all checked in this trip as well





Wildlife noted were a variety of birds, lizards, antelope squirrels, the rest had the good sense to hide in the shade for the day.

Total Mylar balloons this trip - 0 (we must be making a dent in them!)





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8/20/2017
Topic:
Davies Valley and Pinto Canyon

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Britain wrote:
The map from 1946, the areas labeled as springs would they be water springs? I haven't been in the south-west corner yet. But will put this on the list of todo.

I would think so, I know there is water and springs up thru the different drainage's of Myer Creek.
8/19/2017
Topic:
Davies Valley and Pinto Canyon

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The map from 1946, the areas labeled as springs would they be water springs? I haven't been in the south-west corner yet. But will put this on the list of todo.
8/19/2017
Topic:
The Island

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Britain wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Britain, Do you know what they were mining? I am guessing Gold.


I think garnets, the area is loaded with them. Close up of mine.



Ok. Thanks. That makes sense. I know there are tons of garnets out on the desert side of the Peninsular range. I came across a bunch of half dollar sized garnets which have been released from the host granite rock at the bottom of a dry waterfall. Unfortunately they were all mostly seismically fractured but still neat. Maybe could get a 2-3ct. solid gem piece out of each one. Lot's of work.
I would be also interested in Tourmaline ,Gold and the "Lost Emerald mine of the Santa Rosas"


http://thegeozone.org/treasure/california/tales/ca011a.jsp
8/17/2017
Topic:
The Island

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rockhopper wrote:
Britain, Do you know what they were mining? I am guessing Gold.


I think garnets, the area is loaded with them. Close up of mine.

8/17/2017
Topic:
The Island

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Topic: The Island
The garnets mines are mentioned in this article. I've found the mine its about 2/3 of the way to the mine in your picture but more east.
http://dezertmagazine.com/mine/1957DM06/index.html.
8/17/2017
Topic:
The Island

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Britain wrote:
This picture of yours shows one of the mines. This one was being worked on to about 5 years ago. In one of the Desert Magazines I think around 1940 or 50 mentions 2 mines , one is near the Hwy 8 exit to Myers and the other in the middle of the Island.

Thanks for that...I may go out again this weekend and will keep an eye out for it.
8/17/2017
Topic:
The Island

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Britain, Do you know what they were mining? I am guessing Gold.
8/17/2017
Topic:
Alder Canyon Area

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Good to see you getting out there. I drove out to Desert Hot Springs in July during a cool spell ( 105 Deg. ) Not much hiking.
I too have seen a bazillion lady bugs on the E. side of Torro peak.
8/16/2017
Topic:
Alder Canyon Area

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Okay, I admit it. Thought the rattler was a gopher snake from afar before I saw the head and heard the tail upset Those ladybugs were pretty amazing. Here's a couple more pics of Daren enjoying ABDSP:

Annoying Gate by tomteske, on Flickr

Boundary by tomteske, on Flickr
8/16/2017
Topic:
Your Go To AB Book?

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Topic: Your Go To AB Book?
Just purchased this book. Seems apropos during our current political climate to review the local details of our so called Manifest Destiny. Doubt it will be an easy read.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/revealing-the-history-of-genocide-against-californias-native-americans
8/16/2017
Topic:
Alder Canyon Area

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Topic: Alder Canyon Area
Been wanting to descend into that region from Comb's Peak area sometime. Very interesting terrain east of Chihuahua Valley and east of the Pacific Crest Trail. Lots of big kitty tracks too.
8/16/2017
Topic:
Alder Canyon Area

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ziphius wrote:
Wow, never seen that before! Apparently (and I had to Google this), they swarm to stay warm ahead of an approaching spell of cool / cold weather. Was there a big temperature change during your trip? Cold air drainage in the canyon maybe? Nice photos. - Jim

63 was the low at night and 89 was the high, we saw them mostly on the southern slopes of the santa rosa range. Thanks for looking it up..!
8/16/2017
Topic:
Alder Canyon Area

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Wow, never seen that before! Apparently (and I had to Google this), they swarm to stay warm ahead of an approaching spell of cool / cold weather. Was there a big temperature change during your trip? Cold air drainage in the canyon maybe? Nice photos. - Jim
8/16/2017
Topic:
Alder Canyon Area

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Tom and I did a quick overnight trip to the upper reaches of Alder Canyon last weekend. Very pretty out there, weather was nice and we found a few unexpected things.

Hey ziphius, what do you know about ladybug infestations? We found bazillions of ladybugs all over the trees





Found a very unpopular benchmark, the Gene BM





Some wildlife (Tom, that is a rattlesnake BTW)







And some pretty scenery



A seismic panel pointing off towards Toro Peak



Total Mylar balloons this trip - 2

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8/13/2017
Topic:
The Island

Britain
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Topic: The Island
This picture of yours shows one of the mines. This one was being worked on to about 5 years ago. In one of the Desert Magazines I think around 1940 or 50 mentions 2 mines , one is near the Hwy 8 exit to Myers and the other in the middle of the Island.

8/13/2017
Topic:
The Island

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Nice one of my favorite places. I usually park off the freeway near the bottom bridge. Theres a little turn out that will hide your vehicle. Theres also a couple of mines in which can be seen from the peak looking north. I haven't found as much scattered trash like old back packs up on the island. Passed through the area Saturday was 103 hats of to you!
8/8/2017
Topic:
The Island

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ziphius wrote:
Can't believe you broke an entire, intact olla by dropping your sunglasses on it! smile
Best I had for size comparison....there was tons more in the sun lit part but all I had was my 600mm lens and phone, neither one suited to the photo taking job.
8/8/2017
Topic:
The Island

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Topic: The Island
Can't believe you broke an entire, intact olla by dropping your sunglasses on it! smile
8/8/2017
Topic:
The Island

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Topic: The Island
That is A LOT of pottery! Love the Kit Kat Scat. Good to see someone is walking around out there this time of year.
8/7/2017
Topic:
The Island

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rockhopper wrote:
I had a camper shell just like that back in the 80's.
btw That pot drop is huge.
My truck is an '81...the whole olla may have been there, much of it was buried in the ground and under surrounding boulders. Even with a GPS point I doubt I could find it again, I was boulder hopping up the ridge and saw it in the shadows down below, I could barely fit in between the rocks to take a picture.




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