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harmono
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11/13/2012
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I'm thinking about returning to this area over Thanksgiving weekend.


My recent trip on Nov 10


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On November 10, 2012 I drove out to this area in a borrowed Jeep. I'm not sure how I'm getting out there next time, but I hope to get out there Thansgiving weekend.
See my post about the November 9 planned trip. I was trying to find an easier way to Goat Canyon Trestle.

Planned Nov 9 Trip

These are my goals:

1. Try driving up Dos Cabesas Road off S2 to get to Dos Cabesas Station. (Last time I tried the energy construction was blocking the road).
Otherwise try driving down Mortero Wash Road off the S2 to get to Dos Cabesas Station.
2. Cross the railroad track south of Dos Cabesas Station, and get to Jojobo Canyon Road.
3. Take Jojobo Canyon North to Piedras Grandes. Keep going up the road to get to the wash north of Piedras Grandes.
4. Walk up to the north fork of the canyon/wash.
5. Walk up the canyon to the top.
6. Try to view the Goat Canyon Tresle from there, or other sights of the tracks and the gorge, and take pictures.
7. If there is time/water/energy walk to Goat Canyon.

Here is my map plan. Map of my trip
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I don't think the wind energy construction project can block public access roads, you should be able to get through on Dos Cabezas Road in 2WD. They may obscure it but not block it.

Post back if you make it out, that looks like an interesting route.

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11/14/2012
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Looks like fun! If my plans fall through I'll keep this in mind. I should be out at the Colorado River over Thanksgiving. There's a mountain out there I need to climb!
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11/14/2012
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Daren Sefcik wrote:
I don't think the wind energy construction project can block public access roads, you should be able to get through on Dos Cabezas Road in 2WD. They may obscure it but not block it.

Post back if you make it out, that looks like an interesting route.


Daren, What I saw was signs saying not to come within 400 feet of construction. The road went right through a construction zone and there were security guards and workers there.
It may be just on that day they happened to be working right by the road. It also may be that I took the wrong road. The entrance was indeed Dos Cabesas, but I saw another road cut to the right. But here is a road that cuts right and goes along the creek bed, and I bet it's really sandy. So I'm not sure. My GPS showed me that I was right on Dos Cabesas, so I turned around. I wish that I had tried that other road, but my brother was wanting to go to the Mud Caves that day.

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11/14/2012
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BorregoWrangler wrote:
Looks like fun! If my plans fall through I'll keep this in mind. I should be out at the Colorado River over Thanksgiving. There's a mountain out there I need to climb!



Do you plan on taking Dos Cabesas road on Saturday out there? If you do, could you take pictures of the construction there? It seemed like the construction was blocking the road. What I saw was the buildings and fences, then I drove about 100 feet and saw a road cut to the right. But if you continue on the road, there was construction going on right next to the road. I'm not sure if the road that cut to the right was Dos Cabesas, or if it was this road that went along this creek that cuts off to the right of Dos Cabesas.

Thanks.

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Dos Cabezas Rd is on public BLM land and they cannot restrict access to it. The signs are meant to intimidate you but you can drive on the road. If you get out and start taking pictures of them they will not say anything to you, they are under constant scrutiny.

harmono wrote:
Daren Sefcik wrote:
I don't think the wind energy construction project can block public access roads, you should be able to get through on Dos Cabezas Road in 2WD. They may obscure it but not block it.

Post back if you make it out, that looks like an interesting route.


Daren, What I saw was signs saying not to come within 400 feet of construction. The road went right through a construction zone and there were security guards and workers there.
It may be just on that day they happened to be working right by the road. It also may be that I took the wrong road. The entrance was indeed Dos Cabesas, but I saw another road cut to the right. But here is a road that cuts right and goes along the creek bed, and I bet it's really sandy. So I'm not sure. My GPS showed me that I was right on Dos Cabesas, so I turned around. I wish that I had tried that other road, but my brother was wanting to go to the Mud Caves that day.


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Here is some obstruction a month or so ago, it threw me off also but I found my way after driving thru their trucks on both sides of the road a little further back. You can see the road on the right with the "No Ocotillo Express Traffic" sign but they have completely bulldozed the road and I could not get over it in my truck.




harmono wrote:

Do you plan on taking Dos Cabesas road on Saturday out there? If you do, could you take pictures of the construction there? It seemed like the construction was blocking the road. What I saw was the buildings and fences, then I drove about 100 feet and saw a road cut to the right. But if you continue on the road, there was construction going on right next to the road. I'm not sure if the road that cut to the right was Dos Cabesas, or if it was this road that went along this creek that cuts off to the right of Dos Cabesas.

Thanks.


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I can't believe how much that whole area is destroyed....
And I used to think the illegal 4-Wheeling was bad upset


Daren Sefcik wrote:
Here is some obstruction a month or so ago, it threw me off also but I found my way after driving thru their trucks on both sides of the road a little further back. You can see the road on the right with the "No Ocotillo Express Traffic" sign but they have completely bulldozed the road and I could not get over it in my truck.




harmono wrote:

Do you plan on taking Dos Cabesas road on Saturday out there? If you do, could you take pictures of the construction there? It seemed like the construction was blocking the road. What I saw was the buildings and fences, then I drove about 100 feet and saw a road cut to the right. But if you continue on the road, there was construction going on right next to the road. I'm not sure if the road that cut to the right was Dos Cabesas, or if it was this road that went along this creek that cuts off to the right of Dos Cabesas.

Thanks.


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11/15/2012
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Daren Sefcik wrote:
Here is some obstruction a month or so ago, it threw me off also but I found my way after driving thru their trucks on both sides of the road a little further back. You can see the road on the right with the "No Ocotillo Express Traffic" sign but they have completely bulldozed the road and I could not get over it in my truck.






harmono wrote:

Do you plan on taking Dos Cabesas road on Saturday out there? If you do, could you take pictures of the construction there? It seemed like the construction was blocking the road. What I saw was the buildings and fences, then I drove about 100 feet and saw a road cut to the right. But if you continue on the road, there was construction going on right next to the road. I'm not sure if the road that cut to the right was Dos Cabesas, or if it was this road that went along this creek that cuts off to the right of Dos Cabesas.

Thanks.


This is what I saw. To the left there was some construction. I don't remember if it looked like you could drive through it or not.
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From this point you need to backtrack about 200' and take the wide sweeping right where they are putting up a wind turbine. They have signs that make it look like you cannot pass but you can, it is the Dos Cabezas Rd!

harmono wrote:

This is what I saw. To the left there was some construction. I don't remember if it looked like you could drive through it or not.
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12/4/2012
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Yeah I saw that road to the right. I didn't make it out there that weekend. I just could not get anyone to drive me out there, or could not get a truck. However I have found a co-worker or two that has a truck and sound interested. I have revised my planned path to a path that goes from the Indian Hills trestle, then goes up that wash to a canyon that is due south of Indian Hill. The canyon ascends up from it's base about 700 feet to around 2800 feet over about 1.5 miles. Then there is a canyon near "Toy Trestle" that I hope to descend which drops about 300 feet. I don't know this area well. I hope someone who goes out there can take a picture looking up that canyon. I'm talking about going above the 2nd tunnel north of the Goat Canyon tresle. The total trip one way is about 3 miles from Indian Hill trestle to Goat Canyon trestle. The reason I changed my mind is manifold. It's not as steep, it's shorter (if you start from the tracks), on the way back I might swing by the sights in that area. (By the way I'm not sure where anything is in that area). It's south of that road that goes to the railroad construction camp.

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