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12/3/2018
Topic:
Rockhouse report

tommy750
tommy750
Nice TR Buford. Have only spent one night at the Cottonwoods and nearly froze. Looks like a fun trip.
12/3/2018
Topic:
The Potrero Three Day BP

tommy750
tommy750
ziphius wrote:
Nice trip Tommy / Daren. The bird is a Dark-eyed Junco and yes, the black-n-red insect is velvet ant. Very painful sting! I wandered over in that mine direction a couple of times. Lots of ranching artifacts for sure.



Thanks, Ziphius! Tom
12/3/2018
Topic:
The Potrero Three Day BP

tommy750
tommy750
Britain wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Britain wrote:
Have that on my radar. They actually have parking now just south of the runway next to the Troutman Mountain. Looks like a nice pack.



Not sure whether that lot allows more than day parking. Only time I was ever over there, the gate that led out to the lot was closed.


Well, the equestrian parking would work. On another note, it's been reported that someone has been cutting off valve stems out there. A few reported being stranded.


That's not very nice. That would definitely suck coming back to that.
1/9/2019
Topic:
Pinto Canyon

tommy750
tommy750
Nice trip report and pics. Glad you made it out. Looks like you found everything as well.
1/22/2019
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

tommy750
tommy750
So, did your wife like it?? Mine is happy to do the day hike/car camp thing but can't convince her (yet?) for an overnight backpack outing. Nice trip report.
1/28/2019
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

tommy750
tommy750
Was out last year above Pinyon Wash about two miles east of Blue Spring and found a cache of four sheep remains, one still fairly pungent. Definitely a favorite area for the kitties.
1/31/2019
Topic:
The "Original" LA Rams

tommy750
tommy750
Found this interesting article about the local team playing in Sunday's Super Bowl and though you might enjoy it:

https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ram-facts-super-bowl-20190131-story.html
2/6/2019
Topic:
Can you see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain?

tommy750
tommy750
Here's the places you can see Goat Canyon Trestle from McCain Valley:

Goat from McCain by tomteske, on Flickr

Possibly could head to Redondo Flat or that little patch of white just to the SE of the Carrizo Overlook. The trestle is just too low to be seen from most of McCain Valley.
2/13/2019
Topic:
Whale Peak Via Pictograph Trail

tommy750
tommy750
Nice trip. Looks like the metal sign is holding up better than the old wood one. You ever try the Jerry Schad Whale Peak loop from Blair? Also kinda like starting in Pinyon Wash: https://caltopo.com/m/HTBN
2/28/2019
Topic:
Canebrake Canyon Access

tommy750
tommy750
Canebrake Valley and Inner Pasture (except for the small old Crawford ranch private inholding plugging the Canebrake Canyon mouth) are ABDSP and BLM (Sawtooth Mountains) Wilderness. They are NOT private. Usually no motorized vehicles are allowed in BLM Wilderness lands but not sure about whether driving on Canebrake dirt roads after passing through the private inholding with permission is allowed. BLM El Centro would know. Of course Border Patrol can do what they want.
3/3/2019
Topic:
Desert snow

tommy750
tommy750
Like your Seco de Diablo lake pic, Buford. Wife and I were heading up the arroyo a couple weekends ago and encountered three trucks covered in mud coming down. Hmmm. Mud puddles or the seep, right?? Nope.

Just Gun It Right by tomteske, on Flickr
3/3/2019
Topic:
Old Maps

tommy750
tommy750
Nice map. Blake's report on the Colorado Desert is here starting on page 228: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y92k3TEmYOkC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=twopage&q=colorado%20desert&f=false
3/18/2019
Topic:
Nolina Peak and a cougar

tommy750
tommy750
Great trail cam clips, Tekewin. You can see a little brown line just to the right of your route starting point. That's where I found a cache of several sheep remains a while back. Your kitty is getting around. Need to start parking my old trail cam out in the boonies again!
4/21/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

tommy750
tommy750
Looks like a nice trip. Cactus Spring dry? Here's an interesting BLM study of water sources in the Santa Rosas from a while back if you haven't already seen it:


http://www.cvmshcp.org/pdf%20files/Water%20Sources-SRSJNM%20FINAL%20REPORT-UCR.pdf
4/21/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

tommy750
tommy750
dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
The main entrance to Toro peak off the Hwy 74 was locked. :-o
That is interesting....hummm...



Still closed due to winter storms: https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sbnf/recarea/?recid=81714
4/21/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

tommy750
tommy750
rockhopper wrote:
Auga Alta spring update: We passed 3 fellow hikers that said they were out at Agua Alta and cleaned out the pipe into the spring and the water was flowing real good. I thanked them very much!




That's good to hear. Have only been there once about three years ago. Here's the spring before Daren put his back into it...

Agua Alta Spring by tomteske, on Flickr
4/22/2019
Topic:
Martinez Peak and Little Pinyon Flat

tommy750
tommy750
rockhopper wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
The main entrance to Toro peak off the Hwy 74 was locked. :-o
That is interesting....hummm...



Still closed due to winter storms: https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sbnf/recarea/?recid=81714[/quote]


Have you seen the new gate? It is truly Massive and closer to the Hwy than the old one. The old gate has never been closed in close to 40 years I have been going up there even in the Winter. We thought it was closed due to the Coachella concerts. Thanks for the link. You always chime in with great info. Thanks!



This site has indicated the road was closed multiple times in the past few years. But, I've never actually drove out there and checked...
4/29/2019
Topic:
Hike Suggestions?

tommy750
tommy750
Isn't the legit way up Red Top via McCain Valley and Pepperwood Canyon?? smile
5/30/2019
Topic:
Pinyon Wash - Memorial Day Weekend

tommy750
tommy750
Sounds like a nice weekend out. Know it gets windy out there, but that Nolina guzzler looks like it's built F5/Category 5 tough!
edited by tommy750 on 5/30/2019
6/13/2019
Topic:
Descanso District

tommy750
tommy750
Showed up to ride bikes on Saturday but missed out on all the exploring and the San Diego 100 race that passed a few feet from Daren's campsite on Friday night and made him miss a few winks of beauty sleep. Apparently he's run that race a few time. Winning time was 16:49:13 which is about what it take me to climb El Cajon once.

Somewhere near Morris Ranch Road

Fat Bikes by tomteske, on Flickr

Couple lizards from the week before when my wife and I walked that stretch of the PCT. Lots of flowers along the trail but summer is coming...

Horned Toad by tomteske, on Flickr

Lizard by tomteske, on Flickr
6/13/2019
Topic:
Anyone still here?

tommy750
tommy750
Nice pics Buford. Really like your spiny lizard pic.
6/13/2019
Topic:
Carrizo Creek

tommy750
tommy750
Tamarisk already coming back?? Wow. Upper Carrizo Creek at I-8 is a complete mess and Google Earth seems to indicate the Carrizo Gorge eradication has ground to a halt. Maybe another couple wind energy projects to fund the long term maintenance? Just kidding. Or, maybe an "Adopt a Tree to Kill Over And Over" might catch on...
7/17/2019
Topic:
Bighorn-Nolina Canyon Loop

tommy750
tommy750
Here's the deer carcass I saw in Nolina downstream from the guzzler. Not sure if this is the same one you saw, Daren.

IMG_1714 by tomteske, on Flickr
8/5/2019
Topic:
The Killer at Christmas Circle

tommy750
tommy750
Nice pics Ziphius. Your pics would fit right in on reddit.com/r/natureismetal
9/15/2019
Topic:
Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake-Best Route?

tommy750
tommy750
Roughly following San Felipe Creek/Old Kane Springs Rd to Fish Creek to Sandstone Canyon to Storm or Cottonwood or Oriflame Canyon would shave off 6-10 miles. Looks like a nice trek whatever route you chose.
9/29/2019
Topic:
Tierra Blanca High Point

tommy750
tommy750
Nice trip Tekewin. Was out in the Tierra Blancas today hiking just to the west of Canebrake Canyon. Walked by 39 roasting pits. Should have tried for one more smile Did come across this poor guy. Still had a strong odor:

Sheep6 by tomteske, on Flickr

Sheep2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Sheep3 by tomteske, on Flickr
9/29/2019
Topic:
Pinyon Ridge

tommy750
tommy750
Did the guzzler have much water? Nice pics, Daren. "...in the climate change year 2015." Nice.
9/30/2019
Topic:
Tierra Blanca High Point

tommy750
tommy750
No pool expert but aren't you supposed to keep hydrochloric acid and chlorine way the heck apart?? Chlorine gas is still unhealthy, right?

No kitty prints but it rained pretty hard earlier in the week. There were a lot of fresh sheep prints crossing the canyon further down.

Tekewin, how high up were you when you saw the water. Nice to see that out there.
10/20/2019
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

tommy750
tommy750
Looks like a great set of hikes, Daren. Glad you could get out there.
10/20/2019
Topic:
Earthquake & Mason Valley Days

tommy750
tommy750
Britain wrote:
Love the film photos. Didn't you guys do oriflame up and over to cottonwood a ways back?


Gary and I did the Oriflame Cottonwood trip. Wish we would have had more time out in Cottonwood especially since there was lots of water.

http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/forum/topic1279-oriflame-to-cottonwood-canyon--day-bp.aspx
10/28/2019
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

tommy750
tommy750
Looks like a nice trip. Assuming Utah Arizona? Great pics. Thanks.
10/28/2019
Topic:
CalTopo is stepping up their game

tommy750
tommy750
Downloaded the caltopo app recently. Since it's beta, you need to download TestFlight from the App Store (I have an iPhone) and then get a link from caltopo to their app. Used it yesterday on a bike ride and it worked well enough. You can access your entire map collection and then hit start to begin tracking. Looked at the new motor vehicle MVUM layer Daren mentioned but didn't seen to add much useful and a lot of the roads are labelled "unspecified" or "limited access." ABDSP is pretty much completely blacked out of this layer. The app doesn't have a GE satellite layer but if you pull up one of your saved maps it will give you what looks to be GE if it's your saved base layer on your map. Props to Daren for introducing me to caltopo. It's a great tool to have.

Here's a screen grab from a Grand Canyon hike last year:

app3 by tomteske, on Flickr

A list of some of my saved maps easily accessed with the app:

app2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Starting your track:

app1 by tomteske, on Flickr
10/29/2019
Topic:
Sheep outside Anza Borrego (photo heavy)

tommy750
tommy750
Buford wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Looks like a nice trip. Assuming Utah Arizona? Great pics. Thanks.



Correct, Arizona and Utah. Nothing too far off the beaten path.

Some national parks, some blm land, some GSE, some NSF lands.



Are some of the pics from part of The Wave??
10/31/2019
Topic:
Rockhouse Canyon / Rockhouse Valley

tommy750
tommy750
dsefcik wrote:
Buford wrote:
Most SUVs and trucks should be able to get to the Butler/Rockhouse junction. The final 3 miles to the end of Rockhouse Truck Trail can be a mess. It depends on how bad the monsoons were, how armored your vehicle is, or how tolerant you are of body damage.


Very tolerant....this was from back in 2013, just didn't see that boulder...


Excuse me but aren’t you the guy blowing me sh*t for the rocker panel microscratch on the Tundra you bought from me that I got while jammed up in Hueso wash??
11/11/2019
Topic:
Best route for hike from Laguna to desert floor?

tommy750
tommy750
Rocko1 wrote:
Will be getting some time off soon and I'd like to try this route https://caltopo.com/m/S0R8 as a day hike. The majority of it appears to be on BLM. Anyone see any issues with this and the possibility of it crossing private land?



Can't comment on the Cuyamaca route but your Mason Valley truck trail and Cottonwood routes look fine. You could take a bit of the old Lassater Hay road back to your vehicle by following a ridge with a faint road just as the MVTT turns toward the NW. Pull up the 1915-1945 historic topo layer to see it.
11/11/2019
Topic:
Brand New Rock Art Book November 2019

tommy750
tommy750
Another great book, Don. The webmaster needs to update your ad on this site to Volume 2 since you sold out Volume 1.
11/14/2019
Topic:
The ABF 2020 ABDSP Photo Contest

tommy750
tommy750
Buford wrote:
Here are last years winners.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmzXErx4

My favorites are the smoke tree and the rattler with the mosquito.

Most are really good. Others dunno



Agree, the snake/bug pic is nice. Looks like everyone else just discovered HDR, brush tool and the vibrance/saturation sliders. Don't understand the second place for a pic of illegal scraped off tent sites at Wind Caves. Maybe I just need a drink...
11/20/2019
Topic:
Sunrise Hwy to Granite Mountain

tommy750
tommy750
Nice trip, Rocko. The 2002 Pines fire cleared out all the brush on the eastern slopes of the Lagunas but is it ever back with a vengeance! Daren and I were out exploring off trail in that same band of chaparral a couple weekends ago and gave up after a couple miles of nasty bushwhacking. Your really healthy area on Granite below 4000ft doesn't show any recent fire damage so maybe that's why it looked so good.
12/1/2019
Topic:
Death Valley 9 Days Trip Report

tommy750
tommy750
Looks like a great trip Daren. Nice pics. I like those new K02s.
12/6/2019
Topic:
Lower Carrizo Creek

tommy750
tommy750
Nice trip Britain. Was out there five years ago (how time flies) in the midst of the tamarisk abatement ( http://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic948-carrizo-badlands.aspx ). Looks like Leckie gained a few rocks and a soda can since I was there. So how much water did you see in Carrizo at "flood stage?"
12/6/2019
Topic:
Death Valley 9 Days Trip Report

tommy750
tommy750
deborah wrote:
Nice pictures on your other site too. That's a serious vehicle by the Trona Pinnacles. Do you happen to know what it was for? Looks like someone was on a serious mission. smile



That's one of those expedition vehicles that can go anywhere as long as it's open terrain with a city block to turn around and your mechanic and accountant are on speed dial. Mercedes' Unimog and MAN are popular platforms. Big in Europe. Can probably pick up a nice used one for under $500K.
12/8/2019
Topic:
Jacumba Mountains

tommy750
tommy750
Haven't been able to get out much lately but rain or shine decided to head out yesterday for hike in the Jacumba Mountains. Rained intermittently all day but never enough to put on rain gear.

Rain by tomteske, on Flickr

One of many granitic domes in the area.

Granitic Dome by tomteske, on Flickr

Nice drilled rim sherd.

Drilled Rim Sherd by tomteske, on Flickr

Piece of burnt bone presumably from a burial site.

Burnt Bone by tomteske, on Flickr

View toward Dos Cabezas

Toward Dos Cabezas by tomteske, on Flickr

Tinaja

Tinaja by tomteske, on Flickr

No obvious migrant trails but someone left their cobija.

Cobija by tomteske, on Flickr

Nice pot drop.

Pot Drop by tomteske, on Flickr

Pot Drop 2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Hilltop by tomteske, on Flickr

Agave by tomteske, on Flickr

View looking north with a peek of sunlight.

Looking North by tomteske, on Flickr

Large cairn in the middle of nowhere.

Large Cairn by tomteske, on Flickr

Stumbled on this practice bomb a long way away from the nearest bombing range. This is the tail fins section but not a good view. The rest of the bomb was a few yards away. Interesting find on Pearl Harbor Day.

Tail Fins by tomteske, on Flickr

Practice Bomb by tomteske, on Flickr

Heading home. The truck is parked at the bump just past Palm Canyon Wash. About ten miles and 2.5K g/l and another nice day in the desert. Enjoy! Tom

Heading Home by tomteske, on Flickr
12/8/2019
Topic:
Jacumba Mountains

tommy750
tommy750
Britain wrote:
Awesome! If that's the hill up the blocked off road north of Montero Palms been up there a while back.. Crossed over to Puff and down.if not cool hike!

Was south of that road and headed more toward Moan but similar area. Really like it up there.


Ziphius, don't mind the rain either, just don't like wind!

Daren, you would have like it since there was a lot of ascending/descending steep rocky slidy stuff smile
edited by tommy750 on 12/8/2019
12/12/2019
Topic:
Granite Mountain West Approach

tommy750
tommy750
Nice TR. Never been up Granite. BTW, who is Norman Glover??
12/15/2019
Topic:
Jacumba Mountains

tommy750
tommy750
Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice. Did you get up there north of Palm Canyon Wash?

Yes, I kinda went straight up the ridge running NS between Palm Canyon and the dirt road to the North
12/17/2019
Topic:
Mortero Palms to Goat Canyon Trestle, then North

tommy750
tommy750
Welcome back, Anutami! Haven't seen a post from you in literally years?? Great trip report.
12/17/2019
Topic:
Kitchen Creek Fall Colors

tommy750
tommy750
Nice pics Deborah. Lots of pretty fall colors.
12/20/2019
Topic:
Inner Pasture Suggestions?

tommy750
tommy750
If you're day hiking or overnighting, I would be much more concerned about bumping into cholla than immigrants. Agree with Buford most of the traffic into Canebrake, Potrero and Storm is originating from Pepperwood and exiting out MM41 or climbing over the Canebrake/Potrero saddle and exiting Potrero/Storm. Not much reason to transit the rest of IP. A nice loop to IP would be parking at Agua Caliente, going up Squaw and returning Moonlight. Did that once as an overnight with Daren in 90+ temps with 7-8L on my back and swore I'd never do Squaw again. But a day hike would be nice. Always have wanted to go back and explore the plateau above Squaw. Have fun.
12/24/2019
Topic:
Jojoba Wash with new All Terrain Bobcat truck camp

tommy750
tommy750
Bob, envious of your roof top tent for so long, this year I finally decided to upgrade. And now, you've moved on. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Congrats on your new setup!
12/26/2019
Topic:
Jojoba Wash with new All Terrain Bobcat truck camp

tommy750
tommy750
surfponto wrote:
Thanks Tom,
Still love the roof top tent but you are right, the popup camper is a whole different level of glamping smile

What kind of tent did you get?

Ended up getting a Tepui Kukenan 3. Was planning on getting a clam shell design but ended up getting something that mounts on a bed rack and not on top of the vehicle. Have only had time for a couple overnights but so far I like it and haven't fallen going down the ladder. Yet. smile The important thing is the wife signed off on it cuz no bugs and snakes etc etc etc.
12/29/2019
Topic:
Rain and more sheep

tommy750
tommy750
Nice pics Buford! Looks like the sheep were in your back yard. What lens you using?
12/29/2019
Topic:
Indian Signs Along Carrizo Wash

tommy750
tommy750
Someone emailed me this March 1974 Desert Magazine article a while back and I ended up reprising the same route yesterday except the author arrived from the north on EC 085 and I from the south. The author basically drove down from 78 and poked around Carrizo wash south of the Fish Creek Mts a bit, pretty much my trip 45 years later.

Indian Signs by tomteske, on Flickr

EC 085 was recently graded and moist from the rains so very easy to drive. Also new signage indicates it's on the Juan Bautista de Anza National Historic Trail.

EC 085 by tomteske, on Flickr

The "iron mountains" seem larger than my last trip out here.

Iron Mountains by tomteske, on Flickr

Unsurprisingly, there was way more traffic than usual.

Bikers by tomteske, on Flickr

Carrizo Wash by tomteske, on Flickr

Took the fat ebike along and rode up Carrizo Wash doing some hiking as well.

Tundra and Fat Bike by tomteske, on Flickr

Hiked over to an area at the base of the Fish Creek Mts where the latest GE satellite imagery indicated a new spot had appeared.

Change by tomteske, on Flickr

Doesn't look stripped so maybe insurance fraud??

Burnt1 by tomteske, on Flickr

Burnt2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Melted by tomteske, on Flickr

Moto Metal by tomteske, on Flickr

Burnt3 by tomteske, on Flickr

On a nearby rise, a rock circle pictured in the Desert Magazine article and what it looks like 45 years later.

Rock Circle by tomteske, on Flickr

In an adjacent rocky cove, a site with milling previously described as strewn with sherds (I found one only). A slick with a central mortero and two hand stones looks pretty much unchanged.

Mortero Slick by tomteske, on Flickr

Did find a couple petroglyphs not noted in the article and maybe the most inconsequential rock art find of the year smile

Two Petros by tomteske, on Flickr

Heavily enhanced versions. Clothes Hanger Man and a super basic Bighorn (better yet, Pronghorn)??

Petro1 by tomteske, on Flickr

Petro2 by tomteske, on Flickr

On a ridge above the site were a half dozen small rock walled shelters. Doubt they were old and you'd have to be pretty small to fit inside one.

Rock Wall by tomteske, on Flickr

Followed a section of unscathed native trail hugging the hillside above the zillion vehicle tracks mere feet below.

Trail by tomteske, on Flickr

Skull of ewe.

Ewe Skull by tomteske, on Flickr

Heading back, encountered the unluckiest of drivers getting cited by BLM law enforcement. Forgot to signal maybe?? He looked utterly dejected.

Busted by tomteske, on Flickr

Nothing fancy but another great time out in the desert. Enjoy! Tom
12/30/2019
Topic:
Snow and more sheep

tommy750
tommy750
Buford, I think your posts are giving people the impression BHS aren't endangered anymore since they're everywhere! smile
12/30/2019
Topic:
Indian Signs Along Carrizo Wash

tommy750
tommy750
surfponto wrote:


E-Bike? Hmm now you have me thinking wink


Fat biking with a little boost is really nice out in the sand and rocks. Haven't used it as much as I'd liked but sure is fun. Did a 21 mile ride out in Canyon Sin Nombre and Vallecito a while back and was a decent workout but much easier and more fun with a little help. This trip was probably only about five miles on the bike and a few miles hiking. Would definitely look into it!
12/30/2019
Topic:
Indian Signs Along Carrizo Wash

tommy750
tommy750
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
surfponto wrote:


E-Bike? Hmm now you have me thinking wink


Fat biking with a little boost is really nice out in the sand and rocks. Haven't used it as much as I'd liked but sure is fun. Did a 21 mile ride out in Canyon Sin Nombre and Vallecito a while back and was a decent workout but much easier and more fun with a little help. This trip was probably only about five miles on the bike and a few miles hiking. Would definitely look into it!



So it does ok in softer sand?


I think it works great in softer sand. Haven't taken it to Superstition or Glamis but that's not really my thing. Any sandy road shouldn't pose a problem. With the tires at about 5lbs pressure it's a smooth stable ride.
12/30/2019
Topic:
Indian Signs Along Carrizo Wash

tommy750
tommy750
Deborah/surfponto/Buford: There's definitely interesting stories and trips in this area in Desert Magazine that would be fun to reprise. The Hank Brandt lost mine saga is kinda interesting and someone has previously alluded to it a few years back in the comments (now blurred out by Photobucket's subscription for third party hosting demands): http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic721-west-mesa.aspx. Does anyone know if Desert Magazine is still being hosted somewhere online? Daren posted a link in 2011 but it doesn't work now. I happened to buy a CD years ago with all the issues for $5.
1/3/2020
Topic:
Indian Signs Along Carrizo Wash

tommy750
tommy750
Britain wrote:

Did you see this post?
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/california/80018-hanks-mine-found.html

Here is Magazine
https://archive.org/details/Desert-Magazine-1966-07/page/n7 You can download PDF on lower right side of that page.



Yeah, I've seen both of those article and the original Desert Magazine story from 1964. Have played around on GE a bit trying to verify anything about the their accounts. The 1966 authors appear to have "discovered" Hank's Lost Mine, a manganese not gold mine in SW Fish Creek Mountains (in the CIA) and described in the publications on mineral resources of the Fish Creek Mts here: https://pubs.usgs.gov/bul/1711c/report.pdf There is a trail ascending to the mine from Carrizo Wash easily visible on GE but it's only .7 miles to Hanks mine with multiple other mines nearby including the Bonanza Queen copper mine, It's not the 2+ mile hike the authors indicate. Not sure how hobbled Hank Brandt would have been able to dig a 30 ft shaft by himself, either.

Regarding the other author, I've been to the flat in his image three (not by his route) but didn't go around the corner to investigate the spot he shows in his fourth pic. It doesn't look like mine tailing on GE however. It's definitely not in the CIA and nowhere near Hank' Lost manganese Mine. Did notice a mention of a trail from the Fish Creek Mts to Split Mt and was actually already planning to try and find that tomorrow.

Great stories and a lot of fun trying to parse their meaning!

Sorry, it's Rocko1 I'm quoting above.
edited by tommy750 on 1/3/2020
1/5/2020
Topic:
Weekend trip

tommy750
tommy750
Again, great pics!
1/9/2020
Topic:
Plane Wrecks

tommy750
tommy750
Britain wrote:
My dad used to fly a version of that plane. Vid of him putzing about over San Diego Bay.
https://youtu.be/B5HbHBeOUFA
edited by Britain on 12/28/2019

Nice clip!
1/28/2020
Topic:
Salt Creek/Cottonwood Canyon

tommy750
tommy750
Glad to hear Salt Creek is flowing well. Went down that road into Cottonwood a few years ago and didn't enjoy that washed out segment either! Nice TR. Cottonwood is definitely worth a 2-3 day trip.
2/2/2020
Topic:
Gert Wash

tommy750
tommy750
I walked on that trail ( http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/Forum/topic1344-carrizo-creek-bm-lost-and-south-mesa.aspx ) and it certainly could be a native trail. Found a large cairn and rock circle on it and looks like it may continue NW on the other side of the wash through South Mesa. Could also have been an access trail to the rock square which appears to be along a chain of 7-8 squares on a NS line. Assuming the squares were some sort guidance for bombing runs but who knows.
2/2/2020
Topic:
June Wash and Hapaha Flat saddle

tommy750
tommy750
Nice trip report, Brian. Visiting that guzzler and maybe an eastern ascent of Whale Pk is on my to do list. Thanks.
2/3/2020
Topic:
Gert Wash

tommy750
tommy750
Rocko1 wrote:
Nice find. I love looking for well worn trails that are not from modern use. This one on the south east side of Chariot has intrigued me.

edited by Rocko1 on 2/3/2020



That's the Lassater Hay Road. Also spotted that on GE and went out there a while back and hiked the entire section. Reportedly Lassater would take the wheels off the fully loaded wagons and slide them down the steep slope till they got to the bottom of Oriflame. Then the wheels were replaced and the wagons continued to the Vallecito Stage station. There's historical accounts indicating this one section was really sketchy even to the 19th Century crowd.

Lassater Hay Road by tomteske, on Flickr
2/3/2020
Topic:
Gert Wash

tommy750
tommy750
Rocko1 wrote:

edited by Rocko1 on 2/3/2020


Thanks Tommy. I thought it was close to the hay road but what threw me was how well worn and narrow the path is now in that section. I assume from big horn sheep use maybe?


I think the road is much easier to see on GE than on foot. To the left of the drainage and heading to the west, you're right, it's mainly a game trail. The section from that ridge to the truck trail is really difficult to find since fire breaks and newer roads/trails have popped up but it's still visible on GE images from the 1990s and comparing them to old topo maps. Was hoping to find some historical stuff along the route but didn't see anything. James Lassater was an interesting guy running the Vallecito Stage station and supplying it with hay from his Green Valley ranch in the Lagunas. Supposedly his stone house is somewhere in the Green Valley Campground but not sure if it's still there.

This is a view from the road toward where it crosses the drainage. There's a similar pic in a 1970's San Diego Union newspaper article about some guy who spent 30 years trying to find the hay road through Oriflame. He found this section but misidentified the steep descent placing it about a mile or so to the east.

P1050816 by tomteske, on Flickr

This is the steep descent to the truck trail. You can see a faint white line in the center of the pic. Like I said, much easier to find on GE.

P1050844 by tomteske, on Flickr

Sorry for ripping off your post, Britain!
2/25/2020
Topic:
Whale Peak overnight

tommy750
tommy750
Nice TR, Ziphius. That's pretty much the same route I remember taking on my first trip up Whale about 15 yrs ago. Was straight out of Schad's book but back then it started in the Blair parking lot, crossed over Foot and Walker to that dirt road. The rest was the same but after crossing Little Blair, you climbed the saddle on that ridge between Little Blair and Blair.

Probably the most serene moment I can recall hiking in the desert was walking through that little meadow between the ascending canyon and Smuggler while it snowed, everything dusted with white and utter silence. Nice memories.
25 days ago
Topic:
Martinez Mtn. Snow

tommy750
tommy750
So this in on the internet: http://www.cvmshcp.org/pdf%20files/Water%20Sources-SRSJNM%20FINAL%20REPORT-UCR.pdf
Don't recall if anyone posted this here before but it has a pretty detailed description of water sources in the area including a couple other potential sources east of Horsethief. Have only been out to Agua Alta once in 2015 from Martinez and it looked pretty sketchy in November.
Looks like a nice trip.
19 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

tommy750
tommy750
Nice TR Rocko1. Daren and I were down the mountain from you in Canebrake on Saturday and I was complaining about the wind that night in June Wash---in front of the propane fire pit. Guess you had way more type 2 fun than we did smile Great pics especially your 4th and 5th ones.

I have a Zpacks Altaplex (discontinued) and really like it (especially the 1.5 lb weight) but it does get pretty noisy in the wind even with all ten guylines as taut as I can make them.
19 days ago
Topic:
Granite Mountain Overnight

tommy750
tommy750
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Nice TR Rocko1. Daren and I were down the mountain from you in Canebrake on Saturday and I was complaining about the wind that night in June Wash---in front of the propane fire pit. Guess you had way more type 2 fun than we did smile Great pics especially your 4th and 5th ones.

I have a Zpacks Altaplex (discontinued) and really like it (especially the 1.5 lb weight) but it does get pretty noisy in the wind even with all ten guylines as taut as I can make them.



Nice. Things starting to bloom in June? I saw a couple of fires on the west slope of Whale and wondered if anyone here was out camping. I wish I had a gauge to tell the true wind speed.

They just re-released the Altaplex a month or so ago. Looks like a great tent. I had to put a sort of knot behind the Lineloc to stop it from slipping through the night. Do you significant pressure changes inside your tent during wind? It was enough to rock us back and fourth like mini-sonic booms.


Definitely starting to bloom in Canebrake. The altaplex is back! And different colors too. Thanks for the updated info. Not sure about the sonic boom sensation but mainly noisy flapping of the dyneema in the wind. Now, I always bring earplugs when doing an overnight. Good for the wind and your snoring hiking buddies. I bought a Kestrel weather station a while back and have used it on occasion while backpacking. Never bothered to set it up outside my pack for accurate temperature tracking and haven't used it as much as I'd hoped. Still a nice unit that syncs with your phone.
12 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
tommy750
Haven't been in Canebrake Valley for a while but wasting time on GE one morning, I spotted what appeared to be a spring exploited by ranchers that I've never noticed before. That led to three Saturdays and about 45 miles wandering around, twice starting at North Fork Indian Valley and once accompanied with Daren from Mile Marker 41. Checked out an occupation site and found a few projectile points. Not sure if these broke during production or returned inside the prey after a successful hunt. Nice broken Cottonwood point:

IMG_3047 by tomteske, on Flickr

Equally nice Desert Side Notch point. Supposedly if it has a basal notch it's a Sierra Side Notch:

IMG_3058 by tomteske, on Flickr

Cremated bone:

IMG_3045 by tomteske, on Flickr


Crawling out of a rock shelter was surprised to find this striped Desert Side Notch:

IMG_3108 by tomteske, on Flickr

Further up valley came across these straps and ?harness. Immediately suspected it was from the parachute or ejection seat of the downed T-33 near Agua Caliente:

IMG_3227 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_3230 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_3236 by tomteske, on Flickr

French INOX carabiner:

IMG_3238 by tomteske, on Flickr

But if you compare the straps cut from the T-33 ejection seat Daren found a while back ( the other one was recovered), the straps look quite different so who knows. You guys know what this is??

Two Belts by tomteske, on Flickr

Daren showed me an old ranching camp which also was a native occupation site:

IMG_3339 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_3348 by tomteske, on Flickr

And this historical artifact:

IMG_3341 by tomteske, on Flickr

Almost stepped on this guy:

IMG_3196 by tomteske, on Flickr

Skid marks:

IMG_3159 by tomteske, on Flickr

Beautiful scenery all around:

IMG_3356 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_3351 by tomteske, on Flickr

Daren checking out cattle bones:

IMG_3371 by tomteske, on Flickr

Actually, I think the main reason Daren went was to recover this old school radiosonde Unfortunately, we didn't have time to swing by and collect it. Daren says you might get a nice tour of the local NOAA site if you drop off a vintage model.

IMG_3276 by tomteske, on Flickr

Oh yeah, the spring! So, the now dry spring was an occupation site and then much later used for a cattle watering trough. A water trough was constructed on top of a boulder that contained multiple morteros and still has pottery next to it. A modern round trough was apparently added later. You can see piping heading up to a green spot above. Never seen anything like it:

IMG_3250 by tomteske, on Flickr

Morteros inside the trough:

IMG_3255 by tomteske, on Flickr

Lots of dried grass below the now dry spring:

IMG_3269 by tomteske, on Flickr

Heading home. Enjoy! Tom

IMG_3294 by tomteske, on Flickr
edited by tommy750 on 3/17/2020
12 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
tommy750
Rocko1 wrote:
Wow! Some fantastic finds. I would assume the spring would have some dampness/trickle with the weather we have had.

Would be nice to find at least seasonal flow. The vegetation and organic layer is so dense at this location I'm not sure a small amount of flow would be visible but who knows and maybe it's worth another visit.
12 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
tommy750
rockhopper wrote:
Looks like you covered a lot area on foot of that vastly in under explored place in our county. 45 miles. Wow! Good eye on the arrow points. The fact that the points were not made of the preferred obsidian means that most likely Lake Cahuilla was full thus covering the locals preferred obsidian source. Good point on the ranchers / miners building atop of older habitations. I've noticed that too.

Really like that area since it's so desolate and peaceful. That's a good observation about the alternative materials when Obsidian Butte was under water. Don't know if the obsidian hydration techniques are accurate enough to determine if all the obsidian artifacts around here dated to periods when the butte was exposed or whether it's already been looked at. Did find one obsidian point but pretty beat up.
12 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
tommy750
Scooter wrote:
Thank you for a great trip report. I have backpacker in over night from the North Fork of Indian Valley not to bad. Great area to explore

Definitely agree. Pepperwood Canyon is my favorite way in and of course there's that little 2000 ft bounce on your way out that's always a healthy pulse quickener smile
10 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
tommy750
Brian wrote:
Seeing artifacts - even relatively recent ones like the ejection strap - always makes me think of the event that caused that object to be there and how it has been undisturbed and mostly unobserved since. It gives a sense of the scale of time. It's one of the things I love about the desert.


Definitely agree. Lots of backstories to ponder.
4 days ago
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

tommy750
tommy750
Here's a recent article on Obsidian Butte: http://www.swxrflab.net/obsbutte.htm Looks like it just formed 2500 years ago. Most of our local obsidian is from Obsidian Butte but smaller amounts are sourced from Coso Volcanic Field to the north and San Felipe to the south. Nice how the chemical signature can definitely identify the source. Obsidian Butte is listed by the USGS as a "high to very high" volcanic threat rank and the only one so designated in So Cal.




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